Hello Friends,
I am knee dip into implementing ISO 9001-2008 at a small custom fabrication company. I have my quality manual, procedures needed, and forms. I am now implementing the requirements and completing training for employees. I have found myself getting a bit confused about 4.2.3 and 4.2.4. I have implemented a traveler system that will contain all the traceability requirements, design requirements, and product realization requirements. With that being said, my question is, do these records fall into 4.2.3 and 4.2.4. When I read these clauses I feel as though they only apply to procedures in my QMS. Do I sound confused? Any help will be appreciated. Have a geat friday!:bonk:
Joe

Joe - knee dip......you are confused!:lmao:

At the risk of repeating countless other threads - your travelers are 'controlled documents'. If they also get used to record, as you say, details such as lot #s for traceability, in-process and product verification details etc. etc. then, yes, they are (become) records too. Especially, if this information isn't available in some other (less readily retrievable) document.:agree1:

Does that make it less dip er, deep?:lmao:

AndyN,
I would say that this makes me a bit more dip ier Should I mention my traveler in my 4.2.3 & 4.2.4 procedures? Thanks for the help:D:thanks:

Well, Andy, that shepherd's pie put you in fine form today, didn't it?:lmao:

Joseph, Andy is absolutely correct, that the travelers, if used to record information documenting what was done (when, by whom, whatever) do become a quality record. Don't get so tied up in what clause everything belongs to that you end up creating ineffective processes.

AndyN,
I would say that this makes me a bit more dip ier Should I mention my traveler in my 4.2.3 & 4.2.4 procedures? Thanks for the help:D:thanks:


Not sure what you mean - mention them in 4.2.3 and 4.2.4 - help me out here......