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View Full Version : How many years of experience is needed to conduct the internal audit in my company?


venkatesan
25th March 2009, 02:20 AM
Sir
What qualification, how many exprince and what training should need to conduct the internal auditng in my company (AS 9100 COMPANY)

Thanks
With warm regards,
venkat:nope:

harry
25th March 2009, 02:59 AM
The key word here is 'competence' and not the number of years experience or for that matter how long is the string of titles. Competence is: Demonstrated personal attributes and ability to apply knowledge and skills to carry out the job in hand - in this case audit.

You may want to look at this post by Sidney: IAQG Guidance PCAP 001 - Competence Management Guideline (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=284916&postcount=1)

Sam4Quality
25th March 2009, 04:41 AM
I completely agree with Harry that competence is the key. :yes:

Also, if an employee is new to auditing, I almost always recommend an Internal Auditor Course involving the relevant standard. After that, like harry said, its the employee's ability to apply his skills the knowledge acquired from the internal audit training.

Ciao. :cool:


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Migre
25th March 2009, 05:06 AM
Yes - competence is undoubtedly the key. It is certainly possible to have an auditor with years of experience but very little competence (I have witnessed such a situation more than once).

The main issue here Venkat is how you determine if an auditor is competent or not. The tools available on this site will certainly assist you though, ultimately, it will be down to you (or someone else in your organisation with a vested interest) to judge. Internal auditor courses are (quite rightly) seen as an appropriate starting point though you simply cannot fully determine an auditor's ability to effectively carry out the role until you see them in action or see the results of their work / get feedback from others.

Good luck - it isn't as straight-forward a process as it sounds.

warton-john
25th March 2009, 06:03 PM
Yes - competence is undoubtedly the key. It is certainly possible to have an auditor with years of experience but very little competence (I have witnessed such a situation more than once).



It is also possible for a staff member to have only a small number of years of experience and yet be a very good auditor.

My view would be something like :-

1. Identify likely candidate to become Internal Auditor
2. Have the candidate attend an Internal Auditing Training Course, part of which should be practical.

Ensure that aspirations are still the same, then :-

3. Have the candidate 'shadow' an experienced Auditor on a number (2-6) of Internal Audits, to see how its done.
4. Have the candidate lead a number of Internal Audits with an experienced Auditor acting as a 'shadow' for support.

Providing all is well :-

5. Allow the candidate to undertake Internal Audits on their own.


Best of luck,

John.