wak125
9th May 2009, 09:40 AM
Is there any difference between Protection and Prevention, as ISO 14001 requires including a commitment of Prevention of Pollution, in the Policy statement.
If we say that XXX is committed to protect the environment…..
Does it serve the purpose?
I understand that both words are not synonyms, and do have slight difference, I need to get my self clear on this issue.
As some times fire Protection and Preventions are used separately.
Please comment it!
Sam4Quality
9th May 2009, 09:58 AM
Prevention of Pollution is a corrective/preventive action for Protecting the Environment.
But, by protecting the environment, are you really working towards prevention of pollution? I don't think so.
Ciao. :cool:
Jim Wynne
9th May 2009, 10:41 AM
Is there any difference between Protection and Prevention, as ISO 14001 requires including a commitment of Prevention of Pollution, in the Policy statement.
If we say that XXX is committed to protect the environment…..
Does it serve the purpose?
I understand that both words are not synonyms, and do have slight difference, I need to get my self clear on this issue.
As some times fire Protection and Preventions are used separately.
Please comment it!
"Prevention of pollution" is a very broad statement; it seems to me that it's one way to "protect the environment." Maybe "...committed to protect the environment by prevention of pollution" would be a better way to put it.
Sambasi
23rd May 2009, 08:01 AM
Prevention is primarily a back up to protect you when you are at your work. It only comes into its intended operation in the event of any failure / hazard
Protection will allow you to work while preventing you form reaching a failure / hazard thus eliminating the chance of a hazard / failure
Jim Wynne
23rd May 2009, 10:27 AM
Prevention is primarily a back up to protect you when you are at your work. It only comes into its intended operation in the event of any failure / hazard
Protection will allow you to work while preventing you form reaching a failure / hazard thus eliminating the chance of a hazard / failure
It seems that you might have it backwards; protection comes into play when something bad happens, and prevention is intended to keep something bad from happening. The environment is protected through preventive measures.
Randy
23rd May 2009, 08:55 PM
Wh not just use the standard instead of chewing the same old meat over and over?
3.18
prevention of pollution
use of processes, practices, techniques, materials, products, services or energy to avoid, reduce or control (separately or in combination) the creation, emission or discharge of any type of pollutant or waste, in order to
reduce adverse environmental impacts (3.7)
NOTE Prevention of pollution can include source reduction or elimination, process, product or service changes, efficient use of resources, material and energy substitution, reuse, recovery, recycling, reclamation and treatment.
Whatever you call it, Protection, Prevention or any other name be able to define, demonstrate and prove your intent.
Are you proactive or reactive? If you are reactive then you are not meeting intent.
dQApprentice
24th May 2009, 11:07 AM
Protection – you are not 100% sure that there will be no intrusion or nonconformance.
Prevention – you are insuring that there will be no intrusion or non-conformance.
What about continues versus continual? Can anyone differentiate the two terms and give guesstimate/suretimate reason/s for the decision to use the word ‘continual’ in publication of ISO 9001 specifically 8.5.1 Continual improvement?:cool:
Jim Wynne
24th May 2009, 12:05 PM
Protection – you are not 100% sure that there will be no intrusion or nonconformance.
Prevention – you are insuring that there will be no intrusion or non-conformance.
What about continues versus continual? Can anyone differentiate the two terms and give guesstimate/suretimate reason/s for the decision to use the word ‘continual’ in publication of ISO 9001 specifically 8.5.1 Continual improvement?:cool:
I think the rationale was that "continuous" denotes something that goes on without stopping, while "continual" suggests periodic episodes of something occurring. It was a stupid, nit-picky, unnecessary change. (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=18900)