I fully understand that this oversight audit (ICOP) is to assure that the CB has performed their function in accordance with ISO17021/ICOP/AS9104 (AS9100). We will be going through this in September 2009. Here is the email I received:

I am the Supplemental Boeing Oversight Representative (SBOR) assigned to complete a Client Validation assessment of your CRB, (Name removed). Per AS9104, aerospace OEMs, such as Boeing, are responsible to perform oversight of CRBs used by their suppliers. The client validation assessment process consists of a document review (i.e. CRB/client contract and last three audit reports) and a validation of selected QMS processes (i.e. management review, internal audit, corrective action, control of nonconforming product, etc.). The latter is an on-site assessment. Any issues identified during the Client Validation assessment will be documented and resolved between Boeing and (Registrar's name removed).

Has anyone been through one of these currently? Provide/site some things that may have come about.

I have a lot of "experience" in the receiving end of these debriefing sessions....:tg: After all, we have over 700+ clients certified to AS9100...

Keep in mind that this is a SUPPLEMENTAL oversight activity. To the best of my knowledge, Boeing is the only OEM doing supplemental audits.

The typical ICOP oversight activities include office visits to the CB's and witnessed audits of AEA's.

The activity described is neither one of these.

I fully understand that this oversight audit (ICOP) is to assure that the CB has performed their function in accordance with ISO17021/ICOP/AS9104 (AS9100). We will be going through this in September 2009. Here is the email I received:



Has anyone been through one of these currently? Provide/site some things that may have come about.

Last year I had several Boeing employees in an AS9100 lead auditor class I taught that said they were going to participate in these supplemental audits. That's the closest I've come to being involved with them. Maybe I know your SBOR...

Last year I had several Boeing employees in an AS9100 lead auditor class I taught that said they were going to participate in these supplemental audits.To be effective, an oversight auditor would have to know a huge body of knowledge:

9100/9110/9120
9104/9104-2/9104-3
ISO 17021
ISO 19011
IAF Mandatory documents
Accreditation Rules
IAQG Resolution log

Another point here is why did Boeing select our company since they are only maybe 5-10% of our Business?

Another point here is why did Boeing select our company since they are only maybe 5-10% of our Business?Probably because of your supplier rating with them.

We are at 98% Q and 97% Del

We are at 98% Q and 97% DelBased on that, according to Boeing's criteria you are in "yellow", improvement needed category.

Based on that, according to Boeing's criteria you are in "yellow", improvement needed category.

Really....Again Boeing is a small part of our Business.

Another point here is why did Boeing select our company since they are only maybe 5-10% of our Business?

Are you near the beach? Or a nice golf course? :notme:

Are you near the beach? Or a nice golf course? :notme:

No. In the Hottest part of the San Fernando Valley. He is coming in September. It will be between 100-115 Degrees F