Has anybody gone through a Quality systems Audit from Volkswagen recently?? I'm getting a visit on the 26th & 27th and I just found out today! What criteria did they use and how did you prepare? I don't want to blow this thing as they are a potential new customer - we are currently registered to QS9000 & Iso9002 & Iso 14001 but have not persued registration to TS16949. How much emphisis will be placed on this standard? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance

Ron

I can't see them looking for TS-16949, it is fairly new. I guess since you are certified to the standards you posted and have a dynamic system, there should be no problem.

What are the chances of you or your management calling the customer and ask for some details?

We supply Volkswagen here, and I've experienced an audit but it was so long ago.....it was based on VDA 6.1.
I know they are saying you must be working towards certification to either VDA or TS16949 in order to quote new business to Volkswagen, but we managed to get TS16949 here, so it isn't an issue anymore!
I'll keep looking for something that may help you.....

I had a VW audit a few years ago.
They give marks according to a check list that you should be able to get from them. They supplied us before the Audit.
Our Audit was based more on the spirit of the company rather than finding a document without a sugnature.
It was fair, do not be too worried about the certificates that you have but rather the way you work and the implemntation by the people working.

If any one is still interested here is the link to the VW audit book.
It is still being used
Formel Q (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=228)

Formel Q 2005 edition (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3404)

thanks for providing formel q requirements. I have looking for this handbook for a long time. Thanks again :biglaugh:

Does someone have the following manual from the VW group :

Formel Q - Production readiness ( 2 day production preparation & execution )

Any help will be appreciated very much.

ThX

Antoine

Does this help?

I cannot guarantee that it is the latest version

Qualification programme for new parts WITH INTEGRATED ACCEPTANCE OF 2-DAY PRODUCTION. Thanks, Howard

I was looking for the 4th Formel Q manual as shown in attached file


Apparently they have integrated QPN and the 2 day evaluation.

Is this correct? - Anyone with a VW login code ?

Any help is appreciated.

Antoine

If any one is still interested here is the link to the VW audit book.
It is still being used
Formel Q (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=228)

Formel Q 2005 edition (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3404)


i have been looking for a english version for a long time.
thank your very much for your kindness to share the documents.
thanks agian!:applause: :applause: :applause:

[QUOTE=Howard Atkins;84395]If any one is still interested here is the link to the VW audit book.
It is still being used
Formel Q (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=228)

Formel Q 2005 edition (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3404)[/QUOTE

Thanks for the audit book. I was looking for to close a non conformities and is a pleasure to have people like you, really eficient.
:thanks: :applause:

I found Formel-Q-Konkret in english. Maybe somebody need it...

I found Formel-Q-Konkret in english. Maybe somebody need it...

This is the 1998 version. Thanks for posting but it is now of historical interest only

This is the 1998 version. Thanks for posting but it is now of historical interest only
Sorry, I'm afraid you are wrong. This manual is from Audi page (downloaded yesterday). And according to document in attachment (from vda.de) it's up-to-date document.

I apologise, :o
the document that I referred to is the Formel Q-Capability Rev5 which is the manner of examining the system whereas your document is the actual quality requirements.
I did not realise that there was a difference.
Again I apologise

No problem :)
I sometimes get lost in VW documents, too.
Too many customers and too many manuals.

Hello Howard,

Yep that is the latest version for the Formel Q Capability. I have attached a copy of the phase E english checklists from the Formel Q QPN/ Two day production audit.

However I am still struggling to work out the scoring criteria, and I also have a checklist from VW AG Asia Pacific that is rather different.

I have to do some work on that one before I can post it.

Chris

Any update on this now? We have a customer from VW asking about VDA certification. We are currently ISO9001:2000 certified.

ANy help is appreciated, thanks in advance.

TS certification is an alternative to VDA.
As far as I know VW do not flow down this requirement.

It could be a case of your customer trying to perform "supplier development".

Ask him what he actually needs