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tech4arab 27th July 2009, 06:47 AM Dear Friend
some times we make the evaluation for supplier and evaluate some supplier as not approved
but when order some items
we find this item is available only with the not approved supplier
in this case what we can do ?
can we purchase from the not approved supplier
dQApprentice 27th July 2009, 07:04 AM If that is the case, you need to establish a purchase exception or emergency purchase and it should be approved. As much as possible, minimize purchasing from non-accredited suppliers. Going forward, ensure that you accredit a supplier that has the ability to supply what you need, on time.
brahmaiah 27th July 2009, 07:08 AM Dear Friend
some times we make the evaluation for supplier and evaluate some supplier as not approved
but when order some items
we find this item is available only with the not approved supplier
in this case what we can do ?
can we purchase from the not approved supplier
You should include the source inthe approved supplier list and give 'Reason for Approval' as 'only source for the item xyz.'
or else get your customer approve the source .It will be a valid reason for approval of a supplier.
V.J.Brahmaiah
tech4arab 27th July 2009, 07:18 AM by calculating the cost of material with complaints divided to the total cost of material purchased from this supplier the result will assessed with this criteria
V. very good xxxx %
G. good xxxx %
S. satisfactory xxxx %
P. poor xxxx %
U. unaccepted xxxx %
can we use this criteria for evaluation the Quality performance of supplier
bobdoering 27th July 2009, 07:20 AM You need to have in your quality system an option to purchase from unapproved suppliers, if that is the only option, that at a minimum includes additional controls to verify the issues that prevented the supplier from being approved and - if required - get customer approval. Customer approval will likely be easier if you outline the additional steps you will use to protect you and them from any problems from the vendor.
Qualqueen 27th July 2009, 09:46 AM You should include the source inthe approved supplier list and give 'Reason for Approval' as 'only source for the item xyz.'
I agree with Brahmaiah. Take a look at the AVL I've attached.
by calculating the cost of material with complaints divided to the total cost of material purchased from this supplier the result will assessed with this criteria
V. very good xxxx %
G. good xxxx %
S. satisfactory xxxx %
P. poor xxxx %
U. unaccepted xxxx %
can we use this criteria for evaluation the Quality performance of supplier
The above should be part of your consideration for evaluation of a vendor but not entirely how you evaluate. Have a statement in your procedure something like 'methods used to evalute new or existing suppliers include, but not limited to:1 - Supplier Survey 2 - Third Party 3 - Acceptable consecutive shipments and so on as listed on the bottom of the AVL. This way you always have the option to use your supplier without worry of approval. Hope this helps.
somerqc 27th July 2009, 09:50 AM Our vendor approval sheet has an option regarding this. If they are the only source for the item, then, they are approved on that basis.
The review is still done (and they are still monitored) so that if another source does become available the comparisons can be fair.
It seems to work and this is a small percentage of overall vendors anyway. Remember, the system has to allow for those 1% of exceptions and give a way to deal with them.
John
tech4arab 27th July 2009, 01:39 PM I agree with Brahmaiah. Take a look at the AVL I've attached.
The above should be part of your consideration for evaluation of a vendor but not entirely how you evaluate. Have a statement in your procedure something like 'methods used to evalute new or existing suppliers include, but not limited to:1 - Supplier Survey 2 - Third Party 3 - Acceptable consecutive shipments and so on as listed on the bottom of the AVL. This way you always have the option to use your supplier without worry of approval. Hope this helps.
1 - Supplier Survey
2 - Third Party Certification
3 - Acceptable consecutive shipments
4 - Trial Usage of the Material
5 - On-site visit
6 - Customer dictated
7 - Sole Supplier
8 - Proof of Training
what is the criteria for this for example Acceptable consecutive shipments , How many no of rejected shipments will make the supplier not approved ?
tech4arab 27th July 2009, 01:43 PM and is third party certification is a base for evaluation a supplier and be the only one basis
somashekar 27th July 2009, 01:51 PM 1 - Supplier Survey
2 - Third Party Certification
3 - Acceptable consecutive shipments
4 - Trial Usage of the Material
5 - On-site visit
6 - Customer dictated
7 - Sole Supplier
8 - Proof of Training
what is the criteria for this for example Acceptable consecutive shipments , How many no of rejected shipments will make the supplier not approved ?
I get a feeling that your considered part is a catalog item and not one per your specifications. If this is right, then the manufacturer will have the list of his authorized distributors. All of them can be your approved supplier if you wish so, the one nearest to you will be ideal though.
Qualqueen 27th July 2009, 03:32 PM and is third party certification is a base for evaluation a supplier and be the only one basis?
A third party cert ( ISO 9001:2008 ; ISO 17025 )is definately a good beginning. Acceptable consecutive shipments is something that works for our own company. May not work for yours. These are just examples, not engraved in stone.
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