My company is TS certified, but I have a question for how to handle supplier ISO 9001 certificates.

I have had very nitpicky registrar auditors in the past...so bare with me. Or is it bear with me? ;)

Anyway, I'm revising our Quality Manual to match the changes made in TS16949:2009. In section 7.4.1.2 the standard reads "Unless otherwise specified by the customer, suppliers to the organization shall be third party, registered to ISO 9001:2008 by an accredited third-party certification body."

My research tells me that ISO 9001:2000 certificates are still valid up until November 2010. Some of my suppliers have ISO 9001:2000 certs that don't expire until 2011. One of them has stated that their last surveillence audit was to the 2008 standard, but ISO will not issue a new certificate until the current one expires in 2011.

Should I add a note to my Quality Manual that says ISO 9001:2000 will be acceptable until November 2010? And what do I do with the supplier described above?

This is how I understand it and check with TC176 too.

• Published November 15, 2008
• Can begin auditing to ISO 9001:2008
• Effective November 15, 2009:
• ISO 9001:2008 certificates will be issued
• Effective November 15, 2010:
• ISO 9001:2000 certificates will be invalid
• Impact: Must transition to ISO 9001:2008 or lose
your certification.

This is how I understand it and check with TC176 too.

• Published November 15, 2008
• Can begin auditing to ISO 9001:2008
• Effective November 15, 2009:
• ISO 9001:2008 certificates will be issued
• Effective November 15, 2010:
• ISO 9001:2000 certificates will be invalid
• Impact: Must transition to ISO 9001:2008 or lose
your certification.


Well, I hope my supplier will figure this out sooner or later. They don't seem to want to take my word for it now.:rolleyes:

Well, I hope my supplier will figure this out sooner or later. They don't seem to want to take my word for it now.:rolleyes:A minor point - ISO does not issue a certificate of registration, nor can it revoke one or invalidate one - only a third party registrar can do so.

Another minor point - perhaps your supply chain criteria are a little lacking in whether they specify the third party registrar be "accredited" by an Accreditation Body. Some of our mavens here in the Cove can cite you chapter and verse as to what you need to assure you some consistency in "reliability" as well as "validity" of certificates of registration from third party registrars.