Hi, everyone

I´ve seen some threads in this forum regarding Finance and Accounting

Some think should be addressed in ISO, some other don´t agree about that.

I think is an important process in my Company (Enineering company)
I´m developing a procedure, but in doubt if I should include it in the Main Process Map.

1- What is your opinion?

2- Other question, if in my process map, I´m showing 20 processes,
should I have 20 procedures in my system?
Is the process map strong revised against iso documentation?

Thanks

Hi,

My suggestion is to do what you think you need. Our main Process Map includes all "supporting" processes - including Finance, but you are correct that you will probably get plenty of responses saying that they don't include finance.

Our map then drills down to lower level maps (or in some cases directly to a procedure). I think that if you have a "process" or your process map, there should be some supporting information behind it (eg, procedures or perhaps just a document saying that it is not covered by your QMS).

At the end of the day, there isn't a right anwer, but using all the responses to find what best meets your needs.

Our high level process map is attached for your information.

Dave

pl see whether the attached map is of any help.

Regards,

Arin

Well no business or industry can run without money; Finance & Accounts is no doubt a core process. The reason why it is not included in the auditable processes - I presume - is that businesses are subject to certain accounts-related stautary audits of their own, besides their internal audits.These departments therefore cannot be subjected to audit by a 'non-statuary' body checking their operations. Further ISO 9001 (and standards based on this) also do to not mention the words 'accounts' 'finance' or any other similar term.

I think the CBs are aware of this and do not even ask to audit these areas except of course the cases where the firm's main business itself accounts-related.