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E Wall
5th September 2001, 11:57 AM
Marc, I've bided my time because I know you have already put sooooooooo much work into this. I have one very small problem...when I post I (literally always) get an error message:
vBulletin Message
No forum specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster

Then I click BACK, and try again....Goes through with no problems. Is this just me not doing something right or a conflict of settings maybe? or is it happening to others as well?


:confused: Eileen

Marc
5th September 2001, 12:41 PM
I want to know about any problems. For sure.

This is a new one on me. I have not seen it. I hope if anyone else does that they let me know.

It sorta sounds like a browser cache issue or a cookie issue. Since I can't reproduce it I don't know what to tell you.

I know at one time a lot of people had problems with boards (in general - not specificaly UltimateBB which is what I was running at the time) because of the way some ISPs would cache data - there's an old thread here on it her somewhere.

But again - it sounds more like a browser cache issue or a cookie issue.

If this is happening to anyone else, please let me know in this thread!!!!

Al Dyer
5th September 2001, 07:15 PM
No big deal but I have problems using the "back" button to return to previous posts. Sometimes I hit the back button and the same page I posted on shows up each time.

Just something to think about in the trial phase of the changeover.;)

Marc
6th September 2001, 02:13 PM
Hitting the back button is not always a good idea any more. This system runs on PHP scripts and sometimes certain browser settings, and other factors I am not able to detail (I don't understand it all by any means), can screw things up. It goes something like this--- You go to a post and then go to another post. To get to that 'next' post a script was used. Hitting your back button is just saying "...re-run the script you just ran..." so you end up at the same spot.

You may have purchased something on the internet where you reach a page which will specifically state not to use the back button - because you'll execute the script again. Most of the majors have addressed this issue, but some still have not.

As I said above, I believe this could be a browser cache issue as well. For example, I have my browser set to not cache pages - so if I hit the back button it retrieves the information again - takes me back to where I was. I seldom use the 'back' button.

I can't see any harm in using the back button. I do it now and again. But if the page I'm at was called by a script, I usually end up at the same place as well.

Marc
6th September 2001, 02:51 PM
> vBulletin Message
> No forum specified. If you followed a
> valid link, please notify the webmaster

Has anyone else seen this message that E Wall has?

energy
6th September 2001, 03:20 PM
Marc,
Yes, I have that happen all the time. Sometimes it takes 3 times. But, I just hit Submit Reply and I'm in. Today. I had a url timed out message. I back buttoned, hit reply. Got E. Wall's message. I hit reply again and I 'm in. When I send this, I will edit in what happens. Til then

energy

here it is

"vBulletin Message
No thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster "

You do have to hit the back button to get back to your message, but it's intact.
:p
energy

Marc
6th September 2001, 03:44 PM
I'll visit the vB site tonight and see if I can find out anything.

Are either of you using the 'latest' version 6 of Explorer? Or the 'old' version (5.5?)? Or..... Are you using Netscape?
Win 98, 2000 (or what version)?
Are you behind company firewalls?
Are cookies turned 'on'?

Like I said, I've never seen that message on either my PeeCee or my Mac. Obviously something weird is going on. I'll try to see if I can get any info tonight.

energy
6th September 2001, 03:52 PM
Marc,

I didn't complain because I figured it was still being debugged. But, I know you are a perfectionist. I will get that information you ask for, to assist. Good job, E. Wall. Let's get quick corrective action:rolleyes:

energy

energy
6th September 2001, 04:17 PM
Are either of you using the 'latest' version 6 of Explorer? NO!
5.0

Win 98, YES

Are you behind company firewalls?
Yes, exchange server

Are cookies turned 'on'?
yes

E Wall
6th September 2001, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Marc
I'll visit the vB site tonight and see if I can find out anything.

Are either of you using the 'latest' version 6 of Explorer? Or the 'old' version (5.5?)? Or..... Are you using Netscape?
Win 98, 2000 (or what version)?
Are you behind company firewalls?
Are cookies turned 'on'?



Explorer V 5.00.2614.3500
Win 98
Yes. Using a 'cisco' product.
How do I check for cookies? When I log off...I get the "...cookies have been cleared..." msg.

By the way Bill....so happy not to be alone :D

E Wall
6th September 2001, 04:21 PM
Since the message says to notify webmaster...I'll click that path and follow it, just in case it will provide you with more information.

E Wall
6th September 2001, 04:25 PM
OMG! Go figure when I want the bloomin' message to pop up it didnt'!

Either it's magically cleared up or just being fickle!

Sent the e-mail but I sure didn't see any other information on the message...

Marc
6th September 2001, 10:41 PM
I got the e-mail but it didn't contain any useful information.

In regard to this problem in general, I couldn't find any other similar complaints. So - I posted: http://www.vBulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27533

Hopefully someone will have some advice or help.

I will say the reason I don't think it's a program problem is that I can't reproduce it. We now have 2 people reporting the same error so something is happening, but exactly what is the question.

As we all know, each computer is very different. There are so many possible setups, 'preferences', programs, not to mention firewalls, etc. that the possible combinations are - well, not infinite I suppose, but there's a lot of possible combinations.

In addition, I'm making some assumptions. One is that this is happening to each of you only when posting a reply and that it happens in all forums. You might try to post a 'test' post in this forum - that is 'Start a New Topic' and see if it also happens then.

Don't you just HATE Root Cause Failure Analysis!

Marc
7th September 2001, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by E Wall
OMG! Go figure when I want the bloomin' message to pop up it didnt'!

Either it's magically cleared up or just being fickle!

Sent the e-mail but I sure didn't see any other information on the message... Well, let's see if it's gone for good or if it comes back. This tends to make me think it's a cookie issue.

I will admit there is a 'possible' issue I'm not sure about. This board and site can be reached at both qs9000.com and 16949.com. Once you're in the site (and the forums) some assumptions are made by the browser. For example, if you are at a page named iso9000.html, I make internal links relative to root, but the point is unless it's an outside link I don't include a 'prefix' such as http:// 16949.com - Your browser sees the link, knows it's at http:// 16949.com and uses that prefix.

All internal links were changed 2 or 3 years ago to 16949.com from qs9000.com. But - you will still find links to qs9000.com in many search engines and at many sites. Not to mention in many 'old' threads. There is no way for me to go in and do a search and replace on all the old threads to change all links with qs9000.com in them to 16949.com So - if you arrive from a qs9000.com link, the browser uses the qs9000.com prefix. I don't know what happens - I'll have to take a look - but if you log in with the 16949.com prefix and then later with the QS9000.com prefix -- what will happen?

Or - what if you're logged in through 16949.com and you click a link in a thread which has the qs9000.com prefix?

These are some issues I'll check into when I get a few minutes. If there's an issue I expect it to be a cookie issue.

I will say that so far I haven't noticed any problems. Everything I have tried so far has worked without a problem from posting to editing to starting new topics.

Just some thoughts.

NOTE: All bets are off. You HAVE to use Elsmar.com now.

Marc
7th September 2001, 12:39 AM
One more thought.

> How do I check for cookies? When I log off...I get the
> "...cookies have been cleared..." msg.

I know there is a 'Log Out' feature but I've never used it. I (ahem....) assume that if you do you have to enter your user name and password again next time you 'stop by'. This may or may not be the case. I can only say I've never used the 'Logout' link. I'll have to try it tonight.

I do know that when you log out ALL cookies are not cleared. This software uses a bunch of cookies.

I'm still learnin' !

------------

This is an edit. I just logged out and sure enough I needed to enter my user name and password to get back in.

Normally I don't log out so it never asks me for a user name or password when I 'visit' the site.

Just some more thoughts.

energy
7th September 2001, 09:32 AM
Marc,
Today, I was responding to my e-mail which automatically takes you to the thread that was posted. In fact, most times I enter the site that way. I experienced 2 immediate URL timeouts and 1 no thread specified. Back buttoned each time and posted. Can it be happening only when we respond in this fashion? Incidentally, from home I entered my password only once. Now, I just go in and I can post without any prompt for a password. Is that because your system recognizes energy? It welcomes me. I'm going to enter through the traditional method and see if it is any difference. Boy, I wish I was more technical!;)

energy

energy
7th September 2001, 09:50 AM
O.K. Entered the site the "traditional" way. No password required. Welcome back energy upper right hand corner.

I will edit this with what happens when I submit

energy

(1)No thread specified notice-hit back button-submit again-posted

energy:eek:

Marc
7th September 2001, 11:11 AM
You two have me stumped.

> I experienced 2 immediate URL timeouts

I haven't had any url timeouts or experienced any of the other stuff - with the exception of the back button issue which I think I explained earlier. The URL timeout issue makes me wonder if we're talking network connection. For instance - I'm sitting here and all of a sudden I try to access my site and nothing happens. Or I get a partial download and then it stops or is jerky or whatever. Before I call my 'Host' and complain about server problems I do a traceroute. 99% of the time there's a Verio (or other 'main pipe' carrier) router screwing up - the traceroute shows my computer can't even connect with the server. I may be able to call up other 'favourite' web sites, but since they are taking a different route that flakey router isn't involved - so they load fine.

And to think in 1974, when I started college, I had a perfectly good option for a computer science degree instead of the biology/chemistry route I took. Back then I thought all this computer stuff was - well, what would one ever do with a degree in computer science? Talk about bad decisions in life. Of course, there're weren't PCs then, etc. I thought I was 'Big Sh_t' because I had an electric typewriter for writing papers for class (before the days of 'word processors' with disks and screens and such - just a plain old typewriter, but it was electric!). I remember talking to my advisor about computer science and was told something like "Well, if you want to work in a closed in room in a bank or some big company with a bunch of big, electronic data machines, it might be right for you...." I was too stupid for the bells to ring. Oh, well....

As far as the issue of where you log in from and what it knows, I can now say that internally it tracks when you were last here. So - if you log in from work during the day and then (even not actually 'logging out') if, in the evening, you go to the forums from your home computer, it knows the last time you logged on was earlier that day. It doesn't know where you logged on from, nor does it care (as far as I can tell). I do know that every 60 seconds (supposedly) the software sends a refresh command to update the 'Who's Online' feature. And I can call up 'the record' of any user and it will tell me things like the last time the user posted, the last visit date and time and some other stuff.

> Boy, I wish I was more technical!

This is a serious learning experience for me as well. But - in case you're interested, go to http://Elsmar.com/temp/ CP-Main.pdf is one file - it's a list of all the options lists. There's a second file CP-1.pdf which is ONE of those from the main list.

UltimateBB was a 1957 Chevy. You could actually work on them with your own tools. vBulletin is a 1995 Pontiac Bonneville SSEI - you don't want to even try to change the spark plugs yourself. Open the hood and - wham - what is all this stuff?

Energy, I just don't know what to tell you. I do have a question, though. Do you stop by the forums from only 1 computer or do you stop by the forums from both home and from work?

energy
7th September 2001, 11:26 AM
Marc,

I just started checking in from home because your new site allows me to use the same name and now recognizes "energy" in both places. No password required, either place. As for the "Submit Reply" issue, no big deal to me. I only responded to let E.Wall know that she was not alone. You asked if anybody else saw the notice that E.Wall saw. To me, most times it's a one time back button and I can submit my reply. Hardly an inconvenience for a chance to rub shoulders with the creme de la creme of QA.

energy:p

Marc
7th September 2001, 11:28 AM
Does the same thing happen on both computers (home and work)?

energy
7th September 2001, 11:31 AM
Marc,

I'll try it tonight over a "Twisted Tea" beverage and post the results from there. TGIF

energy

CarolX
7th September 2001, 11:36 AM
Marc,

And to think in 1974......I was taking my first computer class in high school, only they called it "data processing". I wrote my first program in basic, using punch cards....oh how times have changed!!!!

Anyway, just to let you know that I have not had any of the issues experience by Eileen or energy.

And give yourself a big pat on the back...I for one think you are doing a great job, and the site looks great.

Have a great weekend (although I think you will spend most of it looking at that box on your desk).

CarolX

Marc
7th September 2001, 11:56 AM
> And to think in 1974......I was taking my first computer
> class in high school, only they called it "data
> processing". I wrote my first program in basic, using
> punch cards....oh how times have changed!!!!

You beat me by a year. In 1975 I took my first 'computer science' course: Fortran. Then Cobol and then PL1. Nothing like punch cards! I remember them well!

energy
7th September 2001, 12:32 PM
Man, do I feel old. I took a typewriter course in 1961, Junior year of H.S. The only male. Had to have one with letters on it. Duh! Many, many years passed and along came Atari, Nentendo and Sega. That's it. The last three years were self taught, using the Help Screens provided and advice from co-workers, in the use of Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Visio and others. So when you, Marc, start explaining the server problems, fixes and probabilities, I just nod my head and get on with life. :confused:
But, remember that I can learn it all in a month or less;)

energy

D.Scott
7th September 2001, 01:39 PM
No Way Energy! I don't believe it can be done in less than 40 days.

I was the only male in my typing class in HS as well. I also took shorthand and was the only male there too. Problem is, I was in class about 3 years ahead of you - so makes me feel OLDER.

My first experience with computers was in the late 60s. I worked at Lyons Tea Company in London on the LEO (Lyons Electronic Office) one of the early "clean room computers".

The technology is growing so fast now that I feel I am in the same boat as you as far as need to learn. I feel lost just trying to figure out all the buttons and whistles Marc has added.

Who knows, maybe you and I will meet at a computer class somewhere.

Dave

Laura M
7th September 2001, 05:23 PM
HEE HEE .....no wonder my Cove friends didn't respond to my "just turned 40 message" Let's see - I did punch cards tho - as a Senior in HS, took PL1 in college, but as for typing class in '61 - sorry, someone was typing my birth certificate that year.
Eventually though, - and I type with my fingers on the right keys! Of course mom said I'd need it to be a secretary somewhere.
(Don't mean to insult secretaries, just the stereotype '60's mom's. I wanted to be the first girl in wood/metal shop!)

And I don't have a clue about all the server, cookie, yada , yada stuff either Marc. We're known as users. Enough to get by and be dangerous, and appreciate all the wizards out there taking the time to figure this out!

energy
8th September 2001, 09:29 AM
Laura M. I knew you were just a baby. When you were about a year old, I was beginning my four year stint in the US Navy (Air Group).

Randy, A jarhead? Where did you get all the brains from? :)
We had a few of those tethered to the brig on the carriers I frequented. While we were relaxing in the 100+ Deg weather on the flight deck on weekends, these Semper Phi? guys were jogging in full combat gear in the Sun. Like, the whole squadron. I always managed to keep clear of their quarters for reasons of personal safety.

Marc, The version of MS Internet Explorer that I'm using here at home is 5.00.2314.10031C. I know it's different from the version in work and E. Wall's. (That is, the digits following the 5.0) No "No Thread Specified" message or need to use the backbutton to submit reply from here. It works like it's supposed to. I think you are getting close. As I told you, no problem for me. What's it take, 3 more seconds to post for those with versions that have this glitch? You do not lose your post. The majority do not have this problem. Onward and upward! Take today off without pay and call me in the morning;)

energy

energy
8th September 2001, 11:32 AM
Checking out this function.

energy
8th September 2001, 11:42 AM
Is there one for a mean old man? Where might they be? Maybe a mischievous monkey?

Still checking out the signature options

Marc, If somebody sits down and explores the options you have now provided, the site is really user friendly. At work, someone is always walking in and interrupting or curious about the colors or the smilies, so I discontinue my experimenting. I spent about about an hour today, off and on, and now I'm an expert.;)

Marc
8th September 2001, 01:46 PM
I think it's a lot more user friendly, but there is a learning curve. I have wanted badly to get this software up because I really believe that, once you get used to the features, this software is much more user friendly than the old UltimateBB software. It's more complex, but once you're used to it using it really is easier. Of course, that's my opinion. On the other hand, it has been, and will continue to be, much more of a maintenance issue for me. Heck - I still have to update a lot of the site pages because of it and I haven't really even finished 'configuring' the board software - I'm still learning how the software works as well...

One of the main features I personally like is that I can now look at a thread and see how many times it has been read. It gives me an idea of how many people really come and read but don't 'register' or post.

I'm glad you're finding it useful and user friendly.

> The version of MS Internet Explorer that I'm using here at
> home is 5.00.2314.10031C. I know it's different from the
> version in work and E. Wall's. (That is, the digits
> following the 5.0) No "No Thread Specified" message or
> need to use the backbutton to submit reply from here. It
> works like it's supposed to. I think you are getting
> close.

I haven't changed anything that would affect that issue. At this point, I think it's probably an issue of firewalls you folks have where you work or computer specific setup. As you probably know, these are issues I cannot solve. Now, if 10 people or such were complaining - then I'd believe it may be software related. Of course, my first first 'test' is to try to reproduce the failure. If I can't reproduce it on either my Mac or my PeeCee with Explorer and Netscape, then my first belief is it's a network (like a company firewall) or specific computer issue. Some folks don't realize how many factors are at play when one logs onto the internet.

Marc
8th September 2001, 02:27 PM
Energy: I got your PM (personal message) and replied. But - I was playing around and 'emptied' my 'sent' folder soon after I sent you the reply. Let me know if you got it. I'm still (forever?) figuring out the idiosyncracies (sp) of the software. I'm curious as to whether my deleting the 'copy' from my 'sent' folder affects your getting the message.

Marc
9th September 2001, 01:53 AM
You know, I saw this. I don't know if it would make a difference or not, but for if you're having problems, check this out:

Click on the 'User CP' (Control Panel) button

Click on 'Edit Options' in the next screen. You will see, just a little way down the list:

Browse board with cookies?
Clicking yes will use cookies to keep your id for this session. Clicking no will send it through the links. (Selecting no may cause problems when sharing links with people behind the same proxy as you).

You might check to see which is checked (Yes or No) and try the other one.

Marc
9th September 2001, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by energy
Is there one for a mean old man? Where might they be? Maybe a mischievous monkey?I haven't figured out the Avatar deal. It's a picture option that goes over where the user info is on the left. I think... You get to choose a picture to 'represent' you. I think if you 'open up all the Avatar options' people can upload their own picture (it'll be reduced in size to fit). I say I think. I'm still confused by all this other stuff. Sooner or later I'll be looking into the Avatar option. I had no idea this software would be so complex.

Al Dyer
22nd September 2001, 11:41 AM
I just installed IE version 6 and all the problems with backing out of pages and lightbulbs have disappeared!

Don't know why, but what the heck, it worked.

Marc
22nd September 2001, 01:05 PM
Maybe and maybe not. Some pages the 'Back' button always works on. Or at least it does for me. But - some actions call scripts where the Back button may not work. As I remember, one example is after you 'submit' a post or edit a post or something like that - the back button calls the script again and you end up where you were.

Fire Girl
28th September 2001, 01:27 PM
Marc

Remember I e-mailed you the other day about my problems posting messages. It still seems to be happening fairly frequently. I'm getting that "no thread specified" message and today I got one that said "no forum specified". What the heck? I don't know how to specify those things or not. Is it a mistake that I am making? If so, please put me back on the right path.

Is anybody else having this problem, or is it just me?

Thanks Marc!!

Peace Out

Fire Girl
:ko:

Marc
28th September 2001, 01:42 PM
You have me stumped. I saw that once - a week or so after the software switch. I think I 'logged out' and I remember I quit my browser and cleared the browser cache and restarted the browser (Explorer). I haven't seen it since. Because of this, I assumed it was a browser cache issue here on my computer.

I definitely want to know if anyone else is experiencing this problem as it's a critical issue.

Marc
28th September 2001, 01:43 PM
Are you by any chance in a company where others also visit the forums?

Al Dyer
28th September 2001, 02:00 PM
Might or might not help but:

I reinstalled Internet Explorer and the problems went away. Don't know how this works if you are using a Mac.

Fire Girl
28th September 2001, 02:15 PM
Marc

As far as I know (and that's pretty far) I am the only one who is accessing the forums from my company. Anybody else online is usually shopping!

Thanks again.

Later.

Fire Girl

energy
28th September 2001, 02:26 PM
Fire Girl,
Have you tried hitting the back button. From work I have to backbutton 2 or 3 times before it goes. It's a cookie or firewall thing internal to the company server. Works for me. Back Button, Submit Reply, Back Button, Submit reply, Back Button, Submit Reply. Try it. I mean one right after the other. As fast as those little fingers will go. Y'all have a great weekend. My daughter's getting married tomorrow and you can color me gone!:smokin:

Marc
28th September 2001, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by energy

From work I have to backbutton 2 or 3 times before it goes. It's a cookie or firewall thing internal to the company server. Works for me. Back Button, Submit Reply, Back Button, Submit reply. try it. :smokin: You really ought to get your IS person to look at that. That shouldn't be happening. And it scares me. :eek:

energy
28th September 2001, 04:21 PM
Marc,

In a previous post from E.Wall we talked about funny stuff happening. So it takes about 5 seconds out of my life to respond from work. No problems from home with my PC. Not your problem. I get the following stuff: Url Time outs, Unable to display page, in addition to the one s we talked about in Firegirl's and E. Walls previous posts. E. Wall seems to have overcome. Can't remember because we are already toasting the blessed event. Later Guy:smokin:

Marc
2nd October 2001, 09:14 PM
I received these today:

From: Cheryl Pritchard
Subject: Troubles posting
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:27:29 -0400

Hi Marc,

First let me say thank you, this site has been a wonderful training tool for
me. I has given the task of QS Mgmt Rep approximately 1 year ago. This
site has provided me an opportunity to learn and benchmark from the best. I
pass along your address at every opportunity.

I wanted to let you know that I had difficulties posting. It seemed that
the server was timing me out. I tried to post my wordy message three times
and I used a different computer each time with no luck. I then posted a
quick Test (IS014001 you may wish to delete this) and it worked.

I typed my message then in Word and copied and pasted it into the posting
and it seemed to work. Do you know how much time we have before we are
timed out?

Cheryl

**************************

From: Cheryl Pritchard
Subject: Troubles again
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:47:24 -0400

Responding to a thread in QS9000 following submission I received a vBulletin
Message : No thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please
notify......

New bugs with your new digs, but I love the new look. Keep up the great
work.
Cheryl

-----------------

At this point I am not sure what to say. It sounds like a cache issue. And there are companies and ISPs which cache pages locally.

I saw it once early on. When I did a traceroute I saw a Verio router/switch which was screwing up. I have watchced the server and it appears to be balanced. There is some heavy loading during the day from time to time, but as often as not the network as a whole is running slow. I connect from the Cincinnati area through an ADSL connection which runs throu Broadwing and there to Verio and my host technically is buying space from Verio and subbing it to me. I mention this because timeouts can be server related or network related - which is why I always run a traceroute before I call my host to complain about server load being a problem. So far, I've had no reason to call. Al said above he was seeing timeouts from time to time.

But back to the problem of seeing:
> vBulletin Message : No thread specified. If you followed a
> valid link, please notify......

I can't reproduce it. So I don't know what to say.

I will say this: I have seen several times lately that I post and I wait and wait and nothing happens. I navigate back to the post and the message has been posted. Once, I remember, it had not been, but the rest were. Here again - I'll have to monitor server load more closely, but so far each time I had that issue (click on Post Reply) and it just sits there - when I've run a traceroute I could see an intermediate router faulting. It usually clears up within 15 to 30 minutes but I've seen routers screw up for hours before.

So far, all I can say is what has already been posted in this thread. I searched the vBulletin 'Bugs' forums and only found one entry and it didn't apply to this situation.

All this said, we're in the 8-D process. We know what is happening. Through this thread we'll look at as many possible causes as we can.

energy
3rd October 2001, 07:26 AM
Marc,

I almost always post in Word, especially when I'm doing a long winded one. It allows me some spell check and the boss can't see all the emoticons. Makes no difference to me. At home, post goes right in. At work, 2 to 4 times and various messages. And I will say it one final time, so it takes me 3-5 seconds to overcome the "obstacle" with the back button. Not a long time out of my life. Obviously, I'm posting. To some that's maybe not a good thing:biglaugh: :smokin:

Marc
3rd October 2001, 09:12 AM
I am relatively sure it's a setup or location specific problem. I know my browser handles php rather poorly - it takes a long time to 'assemble' the page on my computer.

I am suggesting a knowledgeable IS person take a look because they may recognize something. If we can figure out why it happens (these thread ID messages coming up) for 1 person, maybe it'll help the rest.

I can't classify it as a 'software bug' as I can't reproduce it and - as in your case, everything works fine on your home computer but not at work. As problem solvers, what do we now know? Not much but we do know it's not a common problem and (from what I can tell so far) the only people experiencing the problem are behind a company firewall.

There is one user setting I don't understand fully. If you go to your UserCP you will see User Options. There you will see:

"Browse board with cookies?
Clicking yes will use cookies to keep your id for this session. Clicking no will send it through the links. (Selecting no may cause problems when sharing links with people behind the same proxy as you)."

You might try setting this to Yes and see what happens (if nothing, then switch it back to no). If it's set to No, then switch it to Yes and try it. Other than that, I don't see any setting here that would/should cause what we're seeing occur.

What could/would cause this is database corruption. But - I've rebuilt it interanlly (last weekend) and double checked it using MySQLAdmin. Everything in the database checks out OK.

energy
3rd October 2001, 09:41 AM
Marc,

I be a cookie user. When I post this I will edit immediately with the exact message. But, that changes as I said to a variety of different ones as mentioned in previous posts. I will ask our MIS Guy to give it his best shot. We're tighter than bedbugs in the spring.:biglaugh: :smokin:

Only one backbutton this time. message-no thread specified:ko: :smokin:

Marc
3rd October 2001, 09:51 AM
> I be a cookie user.

I have 'NO' checked - I have 2 computers always turned on on my network here (my peecee and my Mac) but I'm not going through a proxy server. Have you tried the 'No' setting to see if that makes a difference?

energy
3rd October 2001, 10:04 AM
Marc,

Our MIS guy thinks it's something like you mentioned earlier as far as "stacking up" in the proxy server. He says we are using a Microsoft Proxy Server. There may be compatibility issues, too. He says we're in the right place with our questions, however there are a few variables. He also mentioned the different Browsers, etc., that we talked about previously. He suggested I use the "Refresh" option rather than the Back Button. Coming at yuh:smokin:

O.K. No thread specifies message.
Hit refresh.
Got this: The page connot be refreshed without resending the information. Click "Retry" to send information again or click cancel to return to the page you were trying to view.

Submit reply-No thread specified message-back button once and I'm here:smokin:

energy
3rd October 2001, 10:10 AM
This is no cookies and without the "refresh" thing.

Results:
Marc, You may have nailed it. I'll try posting again later, but I went right in without any type of the usual messages (without the cookies option checked). By jove I think he's got it!!:smokin:

Marc
3rd October 2001, 12:05 PM
From my earlier post:
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There is one user setting I don't understand fully. If you go to your UserCP you will see User Options. There you will see:

"Browse board with cookies?
Clicking yes will use cookies to keep your id for this session. Clicking no will send it through the links. (Selecting no may cause problems when sharing links with people behind the same proxy as you)."

You might try setting this to Yes and see what happens (if nothing, then switch it back to No). If it's currently set to No, then switch it to Yes and try it. Other than that, I don't see any setting here that would/should cause what we're seeing occur.
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So - you're now set to No, is that correct? And the problem is gone?

energy
3rd October 2001, 12:10 PM
With or without my cookies:biglaugh: there is no difference in the posting scenarios as previously posted. I'm only doing this to help out. To me, personally,much ado about nothing. I know you are trying to determine the exact cause. May not be achievable. Remember " commensurate with the risks encountered".:smokin:

CarolX
3rd October 2001, 01:49 PM
I will say this: I have seen several times lately that I post and I wait and wait and nothing happens. I navigate back to the post and the message has been posted.

Marc,

I had this same problem yesterday. Not a biggy to me, usually have no troubles...just wanted to pass it on.

Regards,
CarolX

E Wall
3rd October 2001, 04:03 PM
Okay, have my computer back, loaner is gone and sure as ship's-ahoy I got the same old error message from the first post. Tried your cookie swapping idea Marc...and this is the test message.

I'll edit it quickly to add the results below:

vBulletin Message
No thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster

Guess no dice for me....maybe I have to restart computer?

E Wall
3rd October 2001, 04:11 PM
Clicking my heels three times....
1 There's no place like the Cove...
2 There's no place like the Cove...
3 There's no place like the Cove...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Still no change. Oh well, Like Energy...no sweat, just extra clicks

energy
3rd October 2001, 04:16 PM
E.Wall,

Just hit the Back Button, Submit Reply, Back Button, Submit Reply. Today, I only had to do it once and I was In. Please try that. No need to shutdown. Like chipping away at the Fire wall. Let me know how it goes. Works for me!:confused: :smokin:

never mind, I see that you already do that. Duh!:eek: :smokin:

Fire Girl
5th October 2001, 11:32 AM
Hey!

If I do the back button and than hit submit again, it works. I usually only have to do it once, but sometimes 3 times.

Thanks guys!

Fire Girl:bigwave:

Al Dyer
5th October 2001, 12:30 PM
Just and obsevation,

The above listed problems also occur on a couple of other boards I frequent, not just a Cayman sight.

Somestimes I can back out, sometimes I need to refresh, and sometimes I heed to click on the forum home page. Refresh seems to work best for my pc.

Marc
5th October 2001, 12:55 PM
I wish I had an answer - but I can't figure anything out. I have posted from my peecee here and can't reproduce it and on my Mac it only happened that one time. energy even got his IS person to look into it and came up empty handed. I do think it has to do with being behind a IIS server and firewall or something.

I'll revisit the vBulletin forums and see if anyone else has posted any complaints about this problem. I'll post a link to it if I find anything and I'll explain here. That's IF I find anything. I looked into this there when this thread started and there were no other complaints. It's pretty popular software and I've seen boards running it that had 200 and 300 people online at one time (obviously their server is a lot bigger and faster than mine...) but then again.

I revisited their forums and again found nothing. If you want to follow the thread I started there some time ago, it's at:

http://www.vBulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=181472