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Cari Spears 22nd September 2009, 05:01 PM Not as imaginative as the Nigerian scams but ... received this the other day.
-----Original Message-----
From: F. K .Andrews [mailto:hxc258@sohu.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:12 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients
Subject: Western Union work from home Package
Hi:
I have to eat a lot of crow with this email.I've been marketing online for over 5 years. I make a 6 figure a year income. I have claimed from day 1 that you can't make money in a day, not just starting out. I was convinced that you needed to build your business slowly and eventually the money would start coming in. I was sure 30 days was the minimum wait time.
Well, just recently, I discovered that I was wrong and now I'm going to have to eat that smug attitude that I had.In short, I've discovered a simple, yet brilliant, method that will have you raking in the cash the SAME DAY.
I won't go into a lot of detail here except to say that this can be done WITHOUT spending a DIME and without your own website. When you see how simple this is, you'll scream.
Anyway, here are the basics:.
1. Honesty and Integrity--You are handling company funds.
2. Flexibility and Commitment. You need to be available when needed.
3. Attention to details and ability to follow instructions.
4. Transportation to Pick up Payments and make remittances to the company.
5. Available 7 days a week if needed. (Optional)
6. Must have computer with Internet access.
We need collection agents for our Dulwich Gallery in the United Kingdom. This is a real second income opportunity. Great for work at home moms and dads and anyone willing to make extra cash! Hours vary between 2-10 hours a wee, and depends on our need in your area. Anyone
accepted will be given trial assignments. We shall have some of our customers in the category "D" send you payments via western union for a maximum of one month when you shall be graduated to a higher pedestal in the category B or C.
Upon receipt of payment from our customers, you automatically pay yourself first before the company.Your payment is 10% irrespective of the volumes of transactions assigned to you in a single day. Remittances to our cash officers is done immediately you have taken your 10%.
NOTE: This is not a salaried position with benefits. Your 10% commission is your pay. The volume of collections determines your earnings. Your earning potential is based on performance. We do not discriminate on race, color or religion. If you have a good work ethics you will do well with our company.
Provide your contact information for an immediate enrolment and commencement.
Email me the below details:
Full Name:
Full Address:
City:
State:
Age:
Phone Number:
Occupation:
Respectfully,
F K Andrews.
fkandrews at sify.com
Craig H. 22nd September 2009, 05:40 PM This kind of thing really tees me off. People are out of work and here comes someone trying to con them out of what money they do have. Why don't we draw and quarter anymore?
The Nigerian scams at least have an air of dishonesty about them - they usually ask the target to do something shady. Someone who is completely legit could be taken in by this one.
Grrrrrrrr
Cari Spears 22nd September 2009, 05:47 PM This kind of thing really tees me off. People are out of work and here comes someone trying to con them out of what money they do have. Why don't we draw and quarter anymore?
The Nigerian scams at least have an air of dishonesty about them - they usually ask the target to do something shady. Someone who is completely legit could be taken in by this one.
GrrrrrrrrExactly. It's obvious (to me) that it's a scam - but it's not obvious what the scam is. I was tempted to contact him to see what the "details"I won't go into a lot of detail here except to say that this can be done WITHOUT spending a DIME and without your own website. When you see how simple this is, you'll scream. are but decided I don't want to scream and I don't care that much.:tg:
Jim Wynne 22nd September 2009, 07:17 PM This kind of thing really tees me off. People are out of work and here comes someone trying to con them out of what money they do have. Why don't we draw and quarter anymore?
The Nigerian scams at least have an air of dishonesty about them - they usually ask the target to do something shady. Someone who is completely legit could be taken in by this one.
Grrrrrrrr
While I share your contempt for the perpetrators of these things, anyone who doesn't question the premise--that money must be collected on behalf of a payee instead of the funds being sent directly, and such collection is worth 10% off the top--is probably a little too anxious to try and get something for nothing.
By the way, I just learned that I'm a Big Winner in a Yahoo/Microsoft Internet Lottery!!! (See the attachment)
howste 22nd September 2009, 08:23 PM By the way, I just learned that I'm a Big Winner in a Yahoo/Microsoft Internet Lottery!!! (See the attachment)
Be careful, Jim. It could be illegal organ harvesters at work. The contact person listed is Mr. Brain Hunt. :mg:
Wes Bucey 23rd September 2009, 12:43 AM I believe the scam itself is a combination of two other scams I've heard about:
1) Scammers prowl ebay and offer full price for things and send "certified" checks or "cashier's" checks for the product but overpay with the admonition,
"I need you to send the overage to the guy who will pick it up, pack it for overseas shipment, and send it to me." (http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp)
The kicker: the big check ultimately bounces as a forgery. Victim is out overage payment and may even be seduced into giving up the product to the intermediary.
2) Job scams usually fall into one of two categories:
Candidate is used as a "cut-out" to accept and reship stolen goods purchased with stolen credit cards. Usually the dupe is told he is part of a secret shopper program to test customer service, shipping, etc. Every once in a while he is told to "keep" one of the products to use or resell. He may be paid with real checks, but more likely he'll get forged or counterfeit checks. He may even be told he'll get direct deposit and have his bank account raided by the crooks.
Candidate is told he is a "payment transfer agent" because he is more "trustworthy" than a commercial bank and "faster." (My daughter works for a bank and routinely wire transfers millions of dollars, completing the transaction in microseconds for bank fees far less than ten per cent.) The actual scam can be real money (a straw man for money laundering) or duped into sending real money in return for forged or counterfeit checks.
ddunn 23rd September 2009, 09:07 AM 2-10 hours a wee,
Wow, that's a long wee!:mg:
Cari Spears 23rd September 2009, 10:07 AM Wow, that's a long wee!:mg::mg::lol::lol:
Jim Wynne 23rd September 2009, 10:34 AM Be careful, Jim. It could be illegal organ harvesters at work. The contact person listed is Mr. Brain Hunt. :mg:
If they're after my brain, they're going to be disappointed. :tg:
True Position 23rd September 2009, 12:30 PM I believe the scam itself is a combination of two other scams I've heard about:
1) Scammers prowl ebay and offer full price for things and send "certified" checks or "cashier's" checks for the product but overpay with the admonition,
"I need you to send the overage to the guy who will pick it up, pack it for overseas shipment, and send it to me." (http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp)
The kicker: the big check ultimately bounces as a forgery. Victim is out overage payment and may even be seduced into giving up the product to the intermediary.
I'm fairly sure this is the scam being run. Very popular on Craigslist.
Here's a fun web site of people wasting Nigerian scammer's time:
http://www.419eater.com/
Be sure you check out the trophy room ( http://www.419eater.com/html/trophy_room.htm )
Dr. L. Ramakrishnan 24th September 2009, 02:15 AM Hi
Thanks for bringing this to the notice of the members of this forum. I have recorded a similar scam recently in my blog (http://Elsmar.com/Forums/blog.php?b=118). I have also come across SMS scams asking for specific information on Credit Cards. Sharing of this information is definitely useful to members; that helps them to be alert.
With kind regards,
Ramakrishnan
JaneB 24th September 2009, 08:51 AM There have been a lot of these kinds of emails/ads etc. in Australia. Some of them were money laundering schemes (the premise being that you get paid $$ for doing 'no more than' passing money through your account), others were basically intended to get information on you and your bank account.
As Jim said earlier, anyone who thinks they can earn lots of money for doing virtually nothing... is very gullible and needs to develop a better scam and BS detector.
Craig H. 24th September 2009, 09:01 AM As Jim said earlier, anyone who thinks they can earn lots of money for doing virtually nothing... is very gullible and needs to develop a better scam and BS detector.
Or run for Congress.
howste 24th September 2009, 03:14 PM Be careful, Jim. It could be illegal organ harvesters at work. The contact person listed is Mr. Brain Hunt. :mg:
If they're after my brain, they're going to be disappointed. :tg:
I just noticed we have a similar user here: Brian Hunt (http://elsmar.com/Forums/member.php?u=3365) :notme:
Cari Spears 3rd November 2009, 12:51 PM by the way, i just learned that i'm a big winner in a yahoo/microsoft internet lottery!!! (see the attachment)Me too!!!!!! But don't tell anyone ... Do not tell people about your Prize Award until your money is successfully handed over to you to avoid disqualification that may arise from double claim.
Juan Dude 4th November 2009, 04:08 PM By the way, I just learned that I'm a Big Winner in a Yahoo/Microsoft Internet Lottery!!! (See the attachment)
Mr. Brain Hunt supposedly is from "Microsoft Security Dept." yet his email is an @yahoo.com domain :lol:
Juan Dude 4th November 2009, 04:11 PM Me too!!!!!! But don't tell anyone ...
HA! same here, the notification is from "Yahoo Awards Center" yet the email given is a @gmail.com domain, these guys should get their emails straight! :bonk:
achorste 5th November 2009, 05:04 AM I love the low budget & quite frankly atrocious presentation of their notification letters - I could knock something more convincing in 5 minutes flat.....
Hmmm.... that gives me an idea...
Mauri 9th November 2009, 04:17 PM I get that type of email all the time as well. I like to do a Whois IP lookup in the originating IP address.
I just recieved one today that had "Every Word Started With A Capital Letter". I didn't even read it. Subject line "Re: Your Payment.
Wes Bucey 9th November 2009, 07:52 PM I get that type of email all the time as well. I like to do a Whois IP lookup in the originating IP address.
I just recieved one today that had "Every Word Started With A Capital Letter". I didn't even read it. Subject line "Re: Your Payment.Sometimes the bad grammar and misspelling is a ploy to lull suckers into thinking they can outsmart some third world rube - that's like thinking you can beat Michael Jordan one-on-one in basketball just because he's retired from active playing.
JaneB 9th November 2009, 09:32 PM It used to be dead easy to pick out the scams and phishing emails, but it's getting a lot harder.
But some of them are now so damned good - way beyond misspelling and poor grammar - that they're almost indistinguishable from the real thing. I've had at least two emails, each purporting to be from a large and well-known bank, which had the logo, the language and even sounded convincing. And even the email address looked convincing.
Only my iron-clad rules (eg, never, ever click a link from an email) and my ingrained suspicion prevented me from taking it seriously. And after I'd gone and checked the full email header, I could then see the supposed email address was bogus and that it wasn't from the bank at all.
But very, very, very good. I bet they caught out some people. In fact, I'm sure of it. Where there's $$ to be made, inventive brains will seek to make it.
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