We are going to have en audit of ISO-TS 16949, and I need your help, I´m needing a quality policy and Manual of the LAB according the requirements of TS 16949, so could someone give me one, in order to guide my job, because I´m lost.

Thank you in advance

The effort of each one is the development of all.

Welcome to the Cove.

Our lab has been accredited by A2LA and is based on 17025 requirements but does not address 16949. We are a QS-9000 company and have not converted.

Although I am willing to share my manual with you if you think it will help, I caution you on relying on someone else's manual. You need to understand the requirements and set up the manual and procedures in a way that will reflect your lab. Simply having the manual won't help you when it comes to actually maintaining your lab. I can see where a copy of mine could help by giving you some ideas in formating and approach.

I would suggest you contact a local consultant or get to some good training classes on the subject.

As I say, my manual addresses QS-9000, A2LA and the Fastener Act. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAY NOT APPLY TO YOUR LAB. If you feel it will help, let me know and I will e-mail a copy (64 pages in MSWord).

Dave

Very wise words Dave!!!!!

Without the knowledge it is just all ink on paper.

Thank you for your reply,

I appreciate a lot your impresions and knowledgement about this matter. I think that the worst way of resolve my doubts is contacting a local consultant, because we need only to get a starting-point for developping our procedures( formating and aproach ).

When I posted this question I only wanted to know the structure of the procedures and the most used LAB policy in order to aply the into my organization.

So, if you consider that your Manual will help me , please e-mail it me to the following e-adress: igorma@euskalnet.net

On the contrary, thank you very much for your kind reply.

REGARDS
IGORTS

Ahhh concerning the trainning I´m completly agree with you, but it´s impossible following the auto-trainning concerted in the Company where I work.
Oh... I´m sorry for my english , it is not all the correct I wish.

This is a place for everybody, while language may slow us down a bit it is not an issue, your English is fine and better than many posts I have seen! Including Mine!

Welcome to the cove and keep posting!:bigwave:

Excellent advice Dave.

I think we were all in the same situation when first confronted by QS. Where in the world does one start to put together a Lab Manual and Lab Scope.
But once started, you start to invision how the lab will work and the policies it will adopt. It was a pain in the butt when we began the task but a real sense of accomplishment when it was finished and approved.
I think you will enjoy the same feeling when it comes together for you.

Good luck!

Thank you ( everybody )

Do not hesitate if you had any question, I will post, of couse, I think that these forums are the High School of the future, where we can help someone and we are helped.

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:agree:

If you want a real laugh, you should see my Spanish :ko:

Keep in touch and let us know how you do with your audit.

Dave

Dave

thanks, will in touch.

I think that these forums are the High School of the future, where we can help someone and we are helped.

Sure IGORTS, I'm learning both - Quality and English...:)

You'll find very able Friends, Philosophers and Guides here for both.
-Atul

Thanks


I hope so Atul.

The laboratory at my facility has been accredited to Guide 25 long before we ever thought about ISO-9002 (we were Mil-I). When I developed the ISO quality system documentation, it made since to maintain 2 sets of documents since there really wasn't an overlay between the two.

This past year, I made the aggressive move to incorporate ISO17025 into our existing quality system documentation based on the overlap of the two standards in many areas. Where there wasn't a clean overlay, I created procedures to address those areas. The work instructions stayed intact and did not have to go through a revision.

While performing an internal audit (we are QS registered, ISO-17025 accredited, and comply with AS9100 Rev A, as well as meeting the FQA and FARs that are associated with my product) is really hairy here, it is much easier for me to maintain. This eliminated the need to have a stand alone laboratory manual and created a logical document flow.

My only hope is that document revisions will slow down so that I can catch my breath!

Nancy