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s_warin 7th August 2002, 11:49 PM It is said that Phil Crosby coined the word Cost of poor quality. Later it is called Cost of quality. The ideas originated in the two books of his: Quality is Free and Quality Without Tears. James Harrington wrote a book about this subject. Who know what is the title of the book and where can we buy it? What other publications I have to consult with?
Claes Gefvenberg 8th August 2002, 03:13 AM Hi,
I had a look around and found these titles:
Business Process Improvement Workbook: Documentation,Analysis,Design,and Management of Business Process Improvement.
High Performance Benchmarking: 20 Steps to Success
Business Process Improvement: The Breakthrough Strategy for Total Quality,Productivity,and Competitiveness.
Have a look at ASQ Quality Press at: http://qualitypress.asq.org
/Claes
s_warin 10th August 2002, 02:37 PM :bigwave:
In ISO 9004:2000 clause 8.2.1.4 Financial mesures states that management should consider the conversion of data from processes to financial information in order to provide comparable measures across processes and to facilitate improvement of the effectiveness and efficiency of the orgranization. Examples of financial measures include
--- preventive and appraisal costs analysis,
--- nonconformity cost analysis,
--- internal and external failure cost analysis, and
--- life-cycle cost analysis.
Cost of quality consists of conformity cost and nonconformity cost. Conformity cost consists of preventive and appraisal cost.
Acually, the internal and external failure itself is the nonconformity cost. Who knows why the Technical Committee 176 says like that! Nonconformity cost analysis and internal and external failure cost analysis.
However, this clause is a very special one. It is the only clause that not consistence to ISO 9001. This is the only one clause that says about financial, effectiveness and efficiency of the organization.
What is life-cycle cost?
s_warin 11th August 2002, 12:55 AM Thank you, Jim for your information.
You are also looking for COQ standard? Do you try these? U.K. Council for Quality and Reliability and the Costs; and The Institute of Cost and Works Accountants. In the preface of AS 2561 it is also cited the DGQ publication "Qualitatskosten---Rahmen--empfehlungen zu ihrer Definition, Erfassung, Beurteilun" (Quality Costs-Basic Recommendation for their Definition, Calculation and Appraisal.
Please tell us the results of your search.
Jim, by the way, what is the optimum level of Quality Costs?
:agree:
s_warin 12th August 2002, 02:02 PM I just found that cost of quality is also called quality cost.
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s_warin 16th August 2002, 07:52 PM Who can help me finding the publications on Cost of Quality such as:
1 Quality Costs--what and how by American Society for Quality Control. Now=ASQ;
2 Guide for reducing quality costs by American Society for Quality Control. Now=ASQ;
3 Quality Cost by U.K Council for Quality and Reliability;
4 Quality Cost by The Institute of Cost and Works Accountant;
5 Quality Costing by Ashgate Publishing;
6 Cost of Quality Guidelines by AT and T, Customer Information Center, ISBN 093276258. Written by Tien Hou;
7 Current Trend of Cost of Quality by Institute of Management Accountants. ISBN 0866411976. Written by John Hawley Atkinson;
8 Measuring and Managing Quality Cost by McGraw-Hill. ISBN 0256237859. 32pp, 1996;
9 Quality Costing; Their Impact on Company Strategy and Profitability by Trans-Atlantic Publication. ISBN 094665543x. Wriitten by Clive L. Musgrove and Michael J. Fox. 1994;
10 What is Cost of Quality All About by Pressmark International. ISBN 1883999006. Written by Terry D Stuck. 50 pp, 1993.
Please guide me to those sources.
:p
Sam 19th August 2002, 09:33 AM s_warin,
It appears that you have all the information tou need. Just contact each one of the sources you listed. I would start with ASQ.
barb butrym 19th August 2002, 11:45 AM "asq.org" will get you there.
s_warin 19th August 2002, 01:02 PM Dear Sam and Barb,
Thanks for your kindness.
The two first titles by AQS are out of print and out of stock. Who can give me the duplications?
s_warin 25th August 2002, 12:32 AM Somebody says that one of the requirements in ISO 16949 is Cost of Quality. Is it true or not? What the standard says? What the organizaiton has to do?
Bill Ryan 26th August 2002, 12:29 AM s_warin
The only specific entry I've come across is in 5.6.1.1 - Part of the management review shall be the monitoring of quality objectives, and regular reporting and evaluation of the cost of poor quality
Bill
s_warin 24th September 2002, 09:28 AM Thank you Bill for you information.
I am still seeking for the publications on CoQ.
Who can help me searching?
Sam 24th September 2002, 10:04 AM s_warin,
Pulled this from the internet.
s_warin 24th September 2002, 08:10 PM I came across the cost of quality in this Cove. There are dispersed in three or four places. Who can tell where they are so the members can have links to those places.
s_warin 13th October 2002, 02:47 AM For the last two months, I have placed orders on Cost of Qualtiy to many places. The publications begin to flow in. I am appreciated for your help.
I am still looking for the publications on this subject for my collection. Please help!
s_warin 13th October 2002, 05:51 AM Except from ISO 9004 clause 8.2.1.4 Financail measure and ISO 16949 clause 5.4.1.1 Management review, what standards mention about Cost of Quality?
s_warin 13th October 2002, 05:55 AM The right clause of ISO 16949 is 5.6.1.1.
Please correct it.
s_warin 13th October 2002, 05:57 AM Except from ISO 9004 clause 8.2.1.4 Financail measure and ISO 16949 clause 5.6.1.1 Management review, what standards mention about Cost of Quality?
Andrej 15th October 2002, 12:17 AM British Standard BS 6143: Part 1:1992, the process cost model, sets out a method for applying quality costing to process (production or service).
BS 6143: Part 2 is prevention, appraisal and failure model.
Andrej
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