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M Greenaway
29th August 2002, 11:04 AM
Has anyone created an IDEFO style process map of the internal audit process that they might like to share ?

Sam
29th August 2002, 02:48 PM
Guess not. Haven't heard of that one. Can you explain?

M Greenaway
30th August 2002, 08:20 AM
Sam

Its simply a modification of the standard process model that shows input-activity-output such that you show input-resources-controls-activity-output.

D.Scott
30th August 2002, 09:10 AM
I would like to see one too. Like Sam, it is new to me too.

Sounds like a flow chart of a control plan from the little I see here. Could this be another diagram useful to the auditor but has no added value to the company?

Dave

M Greenaway
30th August 2002, 09:28 AM
Well some would argue that process mapping is very important for the company, hey even ISO9001 says something about it (very loosely of course).

Sam
30th August 2002, 10:30 AM
M, That sounds similar to the TS approach.
input - activities - support activities - linkages/interfaces - output, coupled with audit planning.

M Greenaway
30th August 2002, 04:28 PM
Sam

I am thinking of process mapping using the IDEFO technique.

Has anyone used this technique ?

s_warin
31st August 2002, 06:55 AM
Before answering your question, please tell us what IDEFO stands for.
IDK,PTM
:p

barb butrym
3rd September 2002, 12:28 PM
If I remember correctly its a table, and the boxes are connected across the table with arrows, shows relationships and multi tasking responsibilities well. Its not one of my favorites, but does serve some purpose to look in at the whole responsibilities/logistics picture. I used it years ago on mapping a JIT line, showing repetition. Worked well there. Don't think I have any kicking around....but will keep it in mind, and post if I find one.

Or maybe thats not the same thing, don't remember acronym we called it. I called it an audit tool...used to address it in auditor training, filling the auditor's tool box.....

s_warin
3rd September 2002, 01:04 PM
IDK, PTM=I don't know, please tell me.
I would like to change into please explain me.:confused:

sxbalasu
16th September 2002, 01:05 PM
Dear Friends:
If you guys want i can do a IDEF0 for internal auditing or any other process. This is to develope a methodology for any process like auditing so that any lay man reading this will know about that and also will be able to do an audit. I have lot of experience indoing IDEF0 and IDEF3 modelling. Idef0 is activity modelling methodlogy and IDEF3 is process modelling methodology. I can do that but i need some inputs from everybody. we can even post that in our PDF files. Please let me know regarding this.
Thanks
siva

barb butrym
16th September 2002, 01:08 PM
i was wrong, what i was using was a verticle cross function diagram something or other.


Have this IDEF0 model.........didn't particularily care for the tool, so never did any.

sxbalasu
16th September 2002, 01:12 PM
Dear friends:
I forgot to tell what is IDEF0
IDEF0 - Integrated definition for function modelling
IDEF3 - Integrated Definition for Process Description capture
These are are systems engienering procedure.
Hope this helps
siva

barb butrym
16th September 2002, 01:12 PM
maybe i didn't like the tool cause I didn't understand it and didn't have time to fool around with it............


I would like to see your examples siva.......do a generic one...or what kind of info do you want?

sxbalasu
16th September 2002, 01:18 PM
barb
i can attach some generic examples in my next post i am trying to get something done very soon.
thanks
siva

Sam
16th September 2002, 01:25 PM
sxbalasu,
I'll second Barb, sounds like a good idea to me.:cool: