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1st September 2002, 10:46 AM
We have started to implement 5S in our organisation. In this connection, Iam looking for some 5S slogans for our campaigns.Please help
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View Full Version : 5S (Five S) Slogan Ideas - Seiri, Seiton, Seiso, Seiketsu, Shitsuke Andrews 1st September 2002, 10:46 AM We have started to implement 5S in our organisation. In this connection, Iam looking for some 5S slogans for our campaigns.Please help David Mullins 1st September 2002, 09:35 PM Sushi Sake Sleezy Sleepy Snory? E Wall 4th September 2002, 12:15 PM What a dry sense of humor David! :rolleyes: :) Andrews - Ideally you are planning to take into account not just the national cultural differences but your companies as well. You may get some ideas/suggestions that would not translate very well (literally or figuratively). The company I am with has been implementing Lean and 5s for over a year now and we don't have any 'slogan'. What is looked for is the actual implementation and ability of all levels to understand and explain what it is. This company did create a 'program' which covers the 5 year plan, and it has a special name and levels with established goals to acheive. Maybe you can explain what your business function is and the intended goal of the slogan...to receive usable suggestions? Best Regards, Eileen M Greenaway 4th September 2002, 12:48 PM A great man once said we should abolish all slogans and exortations in the workplace - I kinda agree. s_warin 22nd September 2002, 01:25 PM 1) Wendesday is 5S day. 2) Do 5S every Monday. 3) Seiri now, Seitong now, Seiso now. 4) Everything in it place. 5) Top management makes the 5S success come true.:biglaugh: noboxwine 23rd September 2002, 11:11 AM Hey Andrews. I appreciate your enthusiasm and I am not at all bashing you or your post. I just have a pet peeve about, well, most everything, that doesn’t add value. If I see another slogan, banner or certification I am gonna vomit on someone’s shoes (not my own, of course). Here's a new twist that is about as novel as manufacturing a product to the print. Implement the 5S program, feel and witness the positive results, capture the savings, reward personal and team contributions and go on about your day. Slogans are like used car salesman. Cheesy, useless and completely full of crap. Good luck. :frust: s_warin 6th October 2002, 01:02 AM Not only the slogan that can cheer the spirit of the activities. Newsletter, poster, banner, badge, competition, study tour, photographing and 5S days also bring up the activists' minds. Do not use only one, use many implementation tools. :biglaugh: Andrei Viorel 9th October 2002, 08:41 AM “If you don’t know where to start with EFQM Excellence - start with housekeeping”. You can try to have "5S" poster. See our last message for Suggestions Panel. vio Andrews 10th October 2002, 10:50 AM What are the steps taken to implement 5S in your organisation.Is there a 5S coordinator? Is the company split into teams for easy and better implementation? Andrei Viorel 10th October 2002, 12:15 PM 5S Team We have 5S team, as X-team (PROD, ENG, LOG), in production being 1 person 5S responsible/shift, as supplementary job, coordination being done by Process Improvement Manager. 5S Implementation Training (External 5S – 7QC Tools – From QC Tools to Action Plan) – customized training for operators, including workshops Improvement idea assessment and implementation, post training activities, focusing on S1 – as major item Analysis “What’s good vs. what’s wrong” Empower modular groups (production lines) to deploy the Dedicated Internal training to all employees 5S team Defining 5S Campaign (5 years schedule) Implement S1 Introducing “5S Suggestion Programme” + rewarding for that Introducing 5S Audit Check List Implement S2 Implement S3 Empower for S4 and S5 operators’ implication trough “Standard Improvement Suggestion Program” Correlate S3 with TPM purposes from “Autonomous Maintenance” 5S Implementation: Good housekeeping and TPM support vio Manoj Mathur 22nd June 2003, 10:52 AM what is meaning of 5S coordinator. My God 5S is every body Job and I strongly feel any artificial thing (or a person) may jeopardise the activity. Andrei Viorel 23rd June 2003, 04:30 AM “Coordination” of 5S – as CIP management tool, it is not a dedicated responsibility, but included one in JD, considering that in this moment 5S ‘campaign” is still an on going implementing process in our company. Delegating “5S coordination”, in the implementation campaign, can be useful considering: -Organizational culture -Sustaining each implemented “S”, by exercises, training, refreshments -Sustaining 5S suggestions proposals -Follow up implementation of AP established for suggestions -Awareness and sustaining 5S & TPM implementation projects -Update, train & implement 5S audit checklist -Maintain database for 5S audit, suggestions, nonconformities related to S4 and S5 -Analysis and reporting, -…. vio Teknow 23rd June 2003, 04:43 AM Don't know if these would fall under the category of slogans :o Sort - what's needed, what's not Set - locations for tools, information etc. Shine - Clean everything Standardise - Implement standard routines Sustain - Monitor & Improve CAN DO Cleanliness Arrangement Neatness Discipline Order :eek: LMO 23rd June 2003, 02:57 PM 5S program Shoot 5 Times, reload. Shoot 5 Times, reload. Shoot 5 Times, reload. Shoot 5 Times, reload. Shoot 5 Times, reload. Aim! :bigwave: db 23rd July 2003, 10:48 AM Although I know the request was a serious one, and many have jumped on the humor bandwagon, I will do the same. sulkinsf 25th August 2003, 02:14 PM I dont want to get into a tangent, but avoid the slogans. 5S is about business. If you can tie 5S back to your process and the health of your business it will survive the bumpy rides of management changes, business cycles, etc. It will also keep people focused on adding the most value with this tool. When we first started 5S, we lacked focus and justified the work with a vague leap of faith. In hindsight I would recommend that you keep your efforts focused on improving flow. Hopefully you can avoid the complaints of cleaning equipment because "tour groups and customers are really impressed." Do 5S to make money. If you need a motivator, I would recommend a 5S scoring system. I saw a good system on a benchmarking tour. Be careful not to diffuse your attention and resources away from improvement of flow. If you need more suggestions let me know. Otherwise I recommend, "The Goal," by Eli Goldratt and "Lean Thinking," by Womack. -Steve sulkinsf 25th August 2003, 02:22 PM Oh - one more thought. In regards to sustain, or the 5S program altogether - keep the end in mind. Sustaining 5S does not mean a once a week house cleaning. Sustaining means every day, even by event. It may be necessary to start with a weekly audit, but keep the message and vision clear. The goal of 5S is not to clean, but to prevent sources of waste (dirt, disorganization). The goal of error proofing is to prevent an error rather than detecting a failure. Our plant does random 5S audits to enforce this tought. I admit, I didnt care for this random audit approach at first. Although I do not like random Quality Systems audits, I think the approach is very valid for reinforcing 5S sustain. Benchmarking visits are a very helpful tool for creating the vision at launch. We sent folks to Team Rahal. What a great tour!!! I would love to hear feedback from others on 5S. -Steve. rangish 7th January 2005, 04:58 AM We have started to implement 5S in our organisation. In this connection, Iam looking for some 5S slogans for our campaigns.Please help 5 S to Get Rid of 1 S ( sagasu = Search ) My Japanese Quality Teacher Used to say all Wastes are generated by 1 S , Sagasu In japanese Means Search and to Remove the Waste by 1 S use 5 S Follow 5 S with 1 S ( Shikkar Shiyo) which means Let us do 5 S Perfectly Wes Bucey 7th January 2005, 12:02 PM 5 S to Get Rid of 1 S ( sagasu = Search ) My Japanese Quality Teacher Used to say all Wastes are generated by 1 S , Sagasu In japanese Means Search and to Remove the Waste by 1 S use 5 S Follow 5 S with 1 S ( Shikkar Shiyo) which means Let us do 5 S Perfectly I find it curious that anyone in Japanese industry, especially in the Quality profession would consider violating one of the 14 points of a Quality guru practically venerated in Japan. I am speaking of violating Dr. Deming's point (paraphrased from the original text) about slogans: Eliminate slogans, exhortations, and targets for the work force asking for zero defects and new levels of productivity. Such exhortations only create adversarial relationships, as the bulk of the causes of low quality and low productivity belong to the system and thus lie beyond the power of the work force. Eliminate work standards (quotas) on the factory floor. Substitute leadership. Eliminate management by objective. Eliminate management by numbers, numerical goals. Substitute leadership. Personally, I find slogans annoying and juvenile. In my mind there is a difference between a mnemonic device to help one remember a series of tasks and a slogan exhorting one to perform the task because . . .[fill in your own rah rah reason] If the task does not make the total work easier and more efficient so the worker benefits in some way from performing the task, why incorporate the task? In all my years of visiting workplaces of customers and suppliers, it always seemed to me the most unhappy workers were those at organizations with large banners and streamers everywhere proclaiming "wonderous things" (Quality is Job 1, for example), while the workers mumbled and grumbled and made snide remarks and jokes about the slogans and mottos. Disclosure: I never put up a poster or banner with a slogan in 40 years of business. I would rather demonstrate my commitment than proclaim it with a poster. ccochran 7th January 2005, 01:48 PM Howdy, I can't help you with slogans, but I've attached my "orderliness" checklist, which is basically the same as a 5-S checklist. Feel free to use or ignore it. Craig cncmarine 7th January 2005, 02:22 PM I find it curious that anyone in Japanese industry, especially in the Quality profession would consider violating one of the 14 points of a Quality guru practically venerated in Japan. Nobody "violated" anything...they were talking about 5S not quality or production rangish 9th January 2005, 10:02 AM What I have said is Not a slogan but the Root of 5 S satrts with one S sagasu according to my teacher. Some one Telephones home and You wish to write down his Telphone Number. How many times have You searched for a Ball Pen or Pencil with in 30 Seconds When you ask someone to bring a hammer, how long can you wait without getting mad? How long is your patience? 5 minutes? 2 minutes?? or 5 seconds??? You must arrnage a Tool Board in such a way That you Get the Tool with in 30 Seconds This is what one of The Japanses 5S Experts whom I invited to Train us in India Through AOTS Japan, FUJITA sensei calls as a 30 seconds Rule It means to work towards the reduction in the Sagasu Time. To have a slogan or not is an individual's approach to the way he or she wants to take the Message across. Banner or Slogan is Only a Tool and what can work for one Need not for the other. Just Because of one had not used slogans or banner, does not prevent the Other, from Using One which may fit into his or Her Organizational Culture. But action should Not be replaced with Slogan. rangish 9th January 2005, 10:47 PM Dear All Pl see more 5 S slides Rangish abbeyabhi 11th November 2005, 02:16 PM Hello all We are going to implement 5S in our organization in a few weeks. I am the project leader for thie project and this is my first project which i want to work well. I was looking out fr flyers and posters for the introduction of 5S. I looked up on the internet i couldnt find anything interesting. Can you suggest me a website where i can buy these flyers. Thanks, abbeyabhi abbeyabhi 11th November 2005, 02:21 PM Dear All Pl see more 5 S slides Rangish Cannot open the ppt. Can you reattach it??? abbeyabhi 15th November 2005, 10:50 AM We have started to implement 5S in our organisation. In this connection, Iam looking for some 5S slogans for our campaigns.Please help I am trying to find soem 5S slogans too: have managed to get few: Please comment Clean - The Clever Way One Goal, One Passion - 5S A place for Everything, Everything in its Place Think Different, Think Clean This is Urgent , Please Help!!!!! Thanks, CarolX 15th November 2005, 11:58 AM Cannot open the ppt. Can you reattach it??? Go to the Microsoft website and download a free viewer. This power point may answer some of the questions you have posted. If you scroll down to the bottom of this page, you will find more links to 5S threads. Jim Wynne 15th November 2005, 12:24 PM I am trying to find soem 5S slogans too: have managed to get few: Please comment Clean - The Clever Way One Goal, One Passion - 5S A place for Everything, Everything in its Place Think Different, Think Clean This is Urgent , Please Help!!!!! Thanks, Deming's point #10, in part: Eliminate slogans, exhortations, and targets for the work force asking for zero defects and new levels of productivity. Such exhortations only create adversarial relationships, as the bulk of the causes of low quality and low productivity belong to the system and thus lie beyond the power of the work force. There are times, I think, when slogans might be inocuous and perhaps helpful, but in general, I think of it this way: If the workforce understands and accepts the goals and concepts in question, and enabling processes are in place, slogans are unnecessary. On the other hand, if the workers don't understand what's expected, or processes aren't capable, slogans won't help, and will probably be harmful, as Deming suggested. Scott G 15th November 2005, 01:47 PM o.k. I am preparing to be blasted by the Deming's (small mindless creatures that blindly follow their guru over the cliff into the sea). {Note sarcastic comment is a weak attempt at humor not directed at any individual in the cove}. What if Deming is wrong and others like Crosby are right? There seems to be a knee jerk reaction to accept things just because Deming says so. Deming was a great teacher and there is great value in following his example. There is however also value in other approaches too though. I also think sometimes people in Quality tend to see things in black and white. While that is usually a good thing for someone asked to be the judge of processes and specs, sometimes it can be taken to the extreme. Is Deming's point 10 being stretched out of context to say all slogans are evil. Seems to me to be what he is truly getting out is to avoid judging people or setting goals for people, as there are many hidden things out of their control. While I will agree that most slogans do little more than inflate the egos of CEO's, marketing guys and people who create the slogans, I do not dismiss them off hand. I have seen many examples where slogans have worked to help unite people toward a common goal. At a large U.S. based commercial airplane maker the slogan "Tidy friday" is commonly used. It isn't on banners but is used as a rallying cry every friday by the shop 5S coordinators. It does seem silly and hokey but it works. There is a lot of pride taken in a properly cleaned an organized shop, and the slogan is just a weekly reminder. Also while I will agree that most banners are a waste of time and money, they are sometimes useful. A banner for a crew that has just done something above and beyond normal can sometimes be a real moral boost, but it can be dangerous too. If it isn't sincere, and if it comes from an out of touch manager, it can be cynically seen as being condesending. Randy Stewart 15th November 2005, 04:37 PM I agree with Deming on slogans. They are just words and after awhile they really don't hold much weight. Do companys really live up to their Quality Policy Statement? But that's another thread. Everytime I hear a slogan I think about the "Quality is Job 1" from Ford. Sounds nice, but what does it mean? I hope you can see what I'm getting at. On the other hand, statements, quotes, etc. to raise awareness I think are different. At least IMO. Demings point goes into increased productivity and targets. I don't think a "WORK SAFE" or "THINK CLEAN & LEAN" fall into the category of slogans. Claes Gefvenberg 16th November 2005, 04:32 AM Leading by example will always be the best way to get people moving in the desired direction. Too bad we don't see it more often. :rolleyes: /Claes cyberjyothi 16th November 2005, 05:46 AM Hello, I'm proposing 2 5S slogan for u. World shines with sunrise Your (Company name) shines with 5S 5S practice is a Good beginning Never ending practice. Bye, Jyothiswar Scott G 16th November 2005, 09:11 AM Leading by example will always be the best way to get people moving in the desired direction. Too bad we don't see it more often. :rolleyes: /Claes I agree. I once saw a company president using the best motivator I had seen toward starting a 5-S program. One day he showed up at shift change at one of the busiest, dirtiest and most disorganized areas of the plant. He didn't say a word to anybody, but just got a broom out and started sweeping. The first day people were kind of stunned and just watched. He came back the second day and a few people joined in. He continued doing this for a week until it got to the point that when he came out people were already hard at work and there wasn't any cleaning for him to do. The next week he then started sorting and removing unnessary things and organizing the shop. Soon the shop was following 5S principles without anyone ever saying anything about 5S. There were no slogans, no anouncements, no meetings, no banners just leadership by example. abbeyabhi 16th November 2005, 09:28 AM Dear All Pl see more 5 S slides Rangish It dosent let me open the Presentation. Infact any of the PPt posted on this site.What can the reason be? Abbeyabhi Claes Gefvenberg 16th November 2005, 09:35 AM The first day people were kind of stunned and just watched. Wow! That must have been amazing to watch. I can imagine the looks on peoples faces :lol: Yes, that was a brilliant example. /Claes Jim Wynne 16th November 2005, 09:49 AM What if Deming is wrong and others like Crosby are right? There seems to be a knee jerk reaction to accept things just because Deming says so. Deming was a great teacher and there is great value in following his example. There is however also value in other approaches too though. I agree. :agree1: I personally believe that Crosby, to use your example, has done more harm than good, but that's not to say that there's no redeeming value in his products. Whenever the subject of slogans comes up I always think of the story about astronaut Gus Grissom told by Tom Wolfe in The Right Stuff. In 1959 the original seven Mercury astronauts were visiting the General Dynamics plant in San Diego where the Mercury program's Atlas rockets were being manufactured. They did the obligatory plant tour, then gave little rah-rah speeches to an assemblage of plant workers. Grissom, a taciturn individual for whom public speaking was anathema, followed a rousing speech by John Glenn with a four-word masterpiece: "Well...," he stammered, "Do good work!" Wolfe described the workers' reaction: They started cheering as if they’d just heard the most moving and inspiring message of their lives: "Do good work!" After all, it’s little Gus’ @ss on top of our rocket! Soon "do good work!" became a rallying cry, and soon there was a huge banner over the main production floor with those three words on it. The point is, you shouldn't do anything just because someone famous said you should. Do what makes sense in your situation. And of course, do good work. Marc 16th November 2005, 09:57 AM It dosent let me open the Presentation. Infact any of the PPt posted on this site.What can the reason be? Abbeyabhi There are versions of Microsoft Office that are regional - That could be the problem. I assume you have Powerpoint or the viewer installed on your computer. Jim Wynne 16th November 2005, 10:07 AM There are versions of Microsoft Office that are regional - That could be the problem. I assume you have Powerpoint or the viewer installed on your computer. There are different versions with regard to language, but file formats are the same in all versions, afaik. It's more likely that abbeyabhi is using an old version of PP and trying to open files created in more recent versions. Here's a link to the free PP viewer which should do the trick: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=428D5727-43AB-4F24-90B7-A94784AF71A4&displaylang=en Red4165 9th January 2006, 07:33 AM Hi We implemented 5s some 2years ago and we used the following slogans SORT SPARKLE STORE STANDARDISE SUSTAIN JJ gszekely 9th January 2006, 09:58 AM Well, when I was a chield, I loved slogans. You know, I grew up in siocialism. It was so nice to hear "There is no more exploitation, men by men". Then I grew up, and the ilusions flown away. That is what I think about slogans. Depends on people state of mind. Hovewer, I found to which may be usable: Strategies do not eliminate waste, people do.(maybe somebody's quote) When in doubt, throw it out. György tdanisevicius 11th January 2006, 06:41 AM Hi, I found some interesting ideas about 5s (or 6S) "People practice the 5S’s in their personal lives without even knowing it." "A place for everything and everything in its place, clean and ready for use." Good housekeeping: “Good factories develop beginning with the 5S’s; bad factories fall apart beginning with the 5S’s.” -Hirouki Hirano Good Luck. Tomas vijayrai1981 28th January 2006, 02:02 PM good house keeping is the importent tool to producing quality product. RCBeyette 28th January 2006, 06:30 PM good house keeping is the importent tool to producing quality product. Welcome to the Cove, vijayrai1981. True, there is a link between proper housekeeping and producing a quality product, but I think that there is a stronger relationship between proper housekeeping and the safety of our people. When my facility first started to introduce the concepts of 5S, we made one huge mistake....we said it was all for good housekeeping. :( The people didn't care about that. After all, we're a steel mill...not some high-tech, super-clean environment. When we started to show the relationship between 5S and safety...well, that worked wonders! As it evolved, we then showed them the link to efficiency and product quality. Marc 28th January 2006, 10:11 PM Hi, I found some interesting ideas about 5s (or 6S) "People practice the 5S’s in their personal lives without even knowing it." "A place for everything and everything in its place, clean and ready for use." Good housekeeping: “Good factories develop beginning with the 5S’s; bad factories fall apart beginning with the 5S’s.” -Hirouki Hirano I think that's more true than most people realize. Also see: Five S (http://elsmar.com/wiki/index.php/Five_S) (5S) in the wiki. Marc 28th January 2006, 11:04 PM Interesting, György. That is what I think about slogans. Depends on people state of mind. I agree. gszekely 29th January 2006, 02:41 PM Thank you Marc ! What do you think ? Does slogans motivate at work, individuals as well, or only teams and communities ? Can the reason be for no trust in slogans, that we "distroyed" most of our community feelings, and we drive for individual success in our life ? Can it be that, while in Western Europe and Nord America, slogans are not anymore in use it may still work in developing countries. Maybe. György Jim Wynne 29th January 2006, 03:08 PM Thank you Marc ! What do you think ? Does slogans motivate at work, individuals as well, or only teams and communities ? Can the reason be for no trust in slogans, that we "distroyed" most of our community feelings, and we drive for individual success in our life ? Can it be that, while in Western Europe and Nord America, slogans are not anymore in use it may still work in developing countries. Maybe. György I think it's fairly simple: slogans, by themselves, have no intrinisic value. Hanging big banners that say "Zero Defects!" without having designed and implemented systems that prevent defects from occurring can only cause fear and loathing. On the other hand, if systems of defect prevention have been designed and implemented, there's no need for slogans. Slogans are political tools used, as Orwell put it, to give the appearance of substance to pure wind. Marc 29th January 2006, 06:17 PM Does slogans motivate at work, individuals as well, or only teams and communities ? Can the reason be for no trust in slogans, that we "distroyed" most of our community feelings, and we drive for individual success in our life ? I agree with Jim. A slogan is just words. As to who they will motivate, I couldn't say. I'm too old to believe in slogans - I have to see more than a slogan to get interested, not to mention to 'believe' in one. Can it be that, while in Western Europe and Nord America, slogans are not anymore in use it may still work in developing countries. I think it depends upon the experience of the people and a lot of other factors, but I don't see location as an important part of the equation - People are pretty much the sme everywhere. ralphsulser 24th February 2006, 04:31 PM We do monthly 5S audits for each area or department in the facility. Anybody know who or what companies are now using 6S wtih the sixth S being Safety, included in their internal "5S" audits. I think this is a great way to emphasize the importance of safety awareness and prevent incidents. Marc 24th February 2006, 04:52 PM Do you have a form you can share with us? ralphsulser 24th February 2006, 05:09 PM I don't have a 6S form, looking for someone using one. I will be glad to share our 5S form. Howard Atkins 25th February 2006, 03:05 AM The ultimate slogan CANDO 5(6)S Make Your Plant "Tour-Ready" with 5S (http://www.sme.org/cgi-bin/get-newsletter.pl?LEAN&20051109&2&) An Introduction to 6S (http://www.vitalentusa.com/learn/6s_article.php) 5S-CANDO Clearing Up, Arranging, Neatness, Discipline, Ongoing improvement (http://www.ct-yankee.com/lean/5s_cando.html) There is nothing new under the sun:lol: :lol: :lol: gszekely 26th February 2006, 02:36 AM For some reason, I can't attach the sheets, but you can find a few good scorecard templetes, on the below forum, as post attachment. György lean.org Howard Atkins 26th February 2006, 03:28 AM You need to log in, that is why avinit 5th March 2007, 10:59 AM You can obtain our 5S posters which shall give you not only the slogans but will also provide graphics & instructions for each of the 5S's. We can supply these posters duly laminated & mounted in size 17" x 22" (A2). 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If you want to post an outright advertisement, have a product to sell, a demo or whatever, please call or e-mail Marc Smith to discuss. c. Products or services you may be associated with, along with a link to your company's web site, can be detailed in your User Profile. As you interact with the community, folks will naturally look at the profile and see your information. If there's something specific you think you product or service can help with, please give a detailed explanation and then refer to the information in your profile. Howard Atkins 6th March 2007, 01:33 AM Tip Some one recently asked me about posters/pictures for 5s Most search engines allow you to search for images and this can find a number of useful images. weikeatgoh 6th March 2007, 02:51 AM Hi all, Anyone who can share the 5-S Survey questions distributed to employees to analyze the before-after effect of 5S implementation? Thank you. stephen pearce 13th March 2007, 07:41 AM Hi, Thanks to all who posted and for those who shared their forms ;) Have a great day. Thanks Stephen weikeatgoh 13th March 2007, 10:08 AM Dear Howard, Could you please share with us the questionnaire constructed in order to collect the 'satisfaction' level of the employees after we've implemented 5-S? Thanks a lot! Best regards, Goh 5S Dude 13th March 2007, 01:15 PM Migrating originally from the gemba or shop floor and moving into a shop support position instead of a supervisory roll has provided the opportunity to listen and learn from the many concerns from our shop personnel. I feel this has provided some insight as to their apprehension with regards to 5S and moreover Kaizen. I have also found that the large banners and company slogans do not have any inherent value what so ever with regards to the folks on the factory floor. We too conduct daily 5S audits in each work cell and post the results for each of our three shifts mainly as a tool to help promote order and cleanliness. To date, we have sustained a six year success rate. These finding are simply my experience and do not reflect the company position in any way. Merely feed back.:) mnovak 13th August 2007, 10:27 PM Anybody know who or what companies are now using 6S wtih the sixth S being Safety, included in their internal "5S" audits. I think this is a great way to emphasize the importance of safety awareness and prevent incidents We teach 6S within our company (Sonoco Products). Recently I went on a benchmarking tour to Toyota but I have to say, in regards to 5S, I thought they were actually behind the Memphis Proctor & Gamble plant I visited in May. I have been tasked with the 6S of our facility and while we've had some nice results in our 6S Kaizens, I'm still struggling with the audit & sustainment processes. I'd love to solicit some advice from you all... Our current process calls for daily 6S audits by our Production Supervisors. They use a fairly detailed 6S Scoring sheet that I made up which lists specific infractions so that there won't be a lot of room for interpretation or ambiguity. From there they report the Audit scores to be recorded in a database that at this moment we don't use. We discuss the scores in the shift change meetings. The problem I'm seeing is that the Supervisors are pencil whipping the audits. Our audits are based on a perfect score of 100....100 meaning hospital clean, you could eat off the floors and nothing is out of place. We established a goal of 70 based off of the suggestion of our corporate process improvement resource. We are seeing scores from our Supervisors in the 80-90 range which just aren't realistic and do nothing for using historical data to drive improvement. Now, the simple answer is just better enforcement from our Managers....and I'll work on that. I also plan on implementing weekly audits by the Managers so they can compare their weekly scores to the daily average of their Supervisors. Right now I'm just struggling with how to publicize these audit results without looking foolish because the Supervisor's scores are so unrealistic. I'm planning on going out individually with the Supervisors and showing them the "right way" to do an audit (they overlook a lot of things) and then hoping the scores get better.... Actually in typing this I may have brainstormed something better anyways....I think I'm going to make a 6S Audit Score sheet for use in our Production Meetings where the Supervisors & Managers meet for shift change.....this way it's still internal and not publicized for customers or operators to see (and mock) but it's visible to the managers so they can see who skipped an audit and who was unrealistic. Then once we get the scores to the "reasonable" level, we'll "go public" with them by posting them in a public place so operators & customers alike can see the scores. Sidney Vianna 13th August 2007, 11:25 PM Tip Some one recently asked me about posters/pictures for 5s Most search engines allow you to search for images and this can find a number of useful images.Like this? http://elsmar.com/jpg/5_burros.jpg Umang Vidyarthi 14th August 2007, 02:25 PM Like this? http://elsmar.com/jpg/5_burros.jpg Auw My God!! This is the original.....! Question of the century.....where did you find them????? :lol: Umang :biglaugh::lmao: Jim Wynne 14th August 2007, 03:29 PM Like this? http://elsmar.com/jpg/5_burros.jpg It's 5S, not 5 asses. :D Wes Bucey 14th August 2007, 03:55 PM It's 5S, not 5 asses. :D Joy killer!:mad: Being an anti-slogan Demingite, I certainly like Sidney's take! wmarhel 14th August 2007, 04:18 PM I remember a presentation where the speaker commented, "there is a very fine line between world-class and half-@ss". Wayne Shekhar 18th September 2007, 12:53 AM Having a 5S coordinator results in he being a housekeeping man & he gets blamed for any non conformity in the area massfrompak 19th September 2007, 01:30 AM Sushi Sake Sleezy Sleepy Snory? david you have not replied the anwer well. Asker was asking for 5s slogan and you have just write down 5's this is not joke be serious take care Ahsan wmarhel 19th September 2007, 08:56 AM david you have not replied the anwer well. Asker was asking for 5s slogan and you have just write down 5's this is not joke be serious take care Ahsan Ahsan, what I think you'll find on this forum, besides a lot of good information, is a bit of light-hearted humor as well. If we can't get a chuckle in our profession, and we all know how serious the quality field can be, then what is the point in continuing in that area. I don't think there was anything negative meant by David's comments, just an attempt at getting a few laughs. Wayne harry 19th September 2007, 09:04 AM Thanks Wayne. We call that cultural differences and one good thing that people can gain by participating in an international forum like the Cove is that over time, they learn about all these things. MoniUY 19th September 2007, 09:22 AM Hi! I am attaching some slides I use in my internal training course It´s in spanish but maybe give you some ideas to make a slogan or logo for your internal campaign I give to my people book markers with images of this ppt presentation like the 5 S wheel or the "parthenon" I had created to awareness everybody. BR, Moni eason 5th November 2007, 10:40 PM :bigwave: Hi everyone ! I m another NKOTB from Malaysia. I think having a slogan is perfectly okay for people to relate to what "change" we r trying to bring to the organisation. For that, we have been embracing Lean and TPS since 2005, and until now, the buy-in has improved marginally encouragingly. I supposed irregardless of whether there is a slogan or otherwise, the drivers and change agents r essentially important in any change management initiative. We have one here - "Towards a Lean Learning Organisation" & we have in place a 5-year plan as well with clearly defined & detailed roadmap, objectives, achievables, deliverables (KPIs) to guide us through. I reckoned that in most cases like ours, we are being driven by the system in place, not the other way around which it should be... we should make the system work for us, not we work for the system. That's lean. 5S is fundamentally the foundation to kaizen, and to achieve perfection in any in-process of our business. I am looking forward to having more fruitful n beneficial sharing from u guys and gals out there with regards to implementing 5S in your organisation - success n lessons learnt. Thank you. harry 5th November 2007, 11:52 PM Welcome Eason and that was a good first attempt. hogheavenfarm 6th November 2007, 08:01 AM I agree. I believe Deming was concerned with the trend of substituting slogans for actual organizational change. I find that using slogans to accompany and announce organizational change helps. But depending on slogans to MAKE the change is useless. There must be action to accompany the words, otherwise they are empty words, as so many have pointed out. Too many times, slogans are used to try to improve quality from 'the ground up', instead of making changes from the top down. Slogans are a convenient way for top management to evade responsibility. |
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