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CarolX
5th March 2003, 12:09 PM
Randy metioned this in another thread and I thought I would post them here. Pretty funny stuff.

This comes from the Star Trek Series Deep Space Nine

The Ferengi are an alien race whose culture is based on commerece and greed.

And as you look through them, there are some missing. That is becuase they are not "cannon". In other words, if something isn't metioned in an aired episode or movie, it doesn't exist. This helps keep us Trekkers in line. LOL!!!!

Enjoy!!

CarolX

FERENGI RULES OF ACQUISITION
1.Once you have their money, you never give it back.
3. Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.
6. Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity.
7. Keep your ears open.
8. Only a fool passes up a business opportunity.
8A. Small print leads to large risk.
9. Opportunity plus instinct equals profit.
10. Greed is eternal.
13. Anything worth doing is worth doing for money.
16. A deal is a deal (...until a better one comes along.)
18. A Ferengi without profit is no Ferengi at all.
21. Never place friendship above profit.
22. A wise man can hear profit in the wind.
27. There's nothing more dangerous than an honest businessman.
31. Never make fun of a Ferengi's mother (...insult something he cares about instead.)
33. It never hurts to suck up to the boss.
34. War is good for business.
35. Peace is good for business.
40.She can touch your lobes but never your latinum.
41. Profit is its own reward.
44. Never confuse wisdom with luck.
47. Never trust anyone whose suit is nicer than your own.
48. The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.
52. Never ask when you can take.
57. Good customers are as rare as latinum, treasure them.
58. There is no substitute for success.
59. Free advice is seldom cheap.
60. Keep your lies consistent.
62. The riskier the road, the greater the profit.
65. Win or lose, there's always Huyperian beetle snuff.
69. Ferengi are not responsible for the stupidity of other races.
75. Home is where the heart is, but the stars are made of latinum.
76. Every once in a while declare peace. It confuses the **** out of your enemies.
79. Beware of the Vulcan greed for knowledge.
82. The flimsier the product, the higher the price.
85. Never let the competition know what you're thinking.
89. Ask not what your profits can do for you, ask what you can do for your profits.
94. Females and finances don't mix.
97. Enough...is never enough.
99. Trust is the biggest liability of all.
102. Nature decays, but latinum lasts forever.
104. Faith moves mountains...of inventory.
105. There is no honor in poverty.
109. Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.
111. Treat people in your debt like family, exploit them. Sisko
112. Never have sex with the boss' sister.
113. Always have sex with the boss.
121. Everything is for sale, including friendship.
123. Even a blind man can recognize the glow of latinum.
139. Wives serve, brothers inherit.
141. Only fools pay retail.
144. There's nothing wrong with charity...as long as it winds up in your pocket.
153. Sell the sizzle, not the steak.
162. Even in the worst of times someone turns a profit.
177. Know your enemies...but do business with them always.
181. Not even dishonesty can tarnish the shine of profit.
189. Let others keep their reputation. You keep their money.
191. A Ferengi waits to bid until his opponents have exhausted themselves.
192. Never cheat a Klingon...unless you're sure you can get away with it.
194. It's always good business to know about new customers before they walk in your door.
202. The justification of profit is profit.
205. New customers are like razor toothed gree worms, they can be succulent, but sometimes they bite back.
211. Employees are the rungs on the ladder to success. Don't hesitate to step on them.
214. Never begin a business negotiation on an empty stomach.
216. Never gamble with an empath.
217. You can't free a fish from water.
218. Sometimes what you get free costs entirely too much.
218A. Always know what you're buying.
219. Possession is eleven-tenths of the law.
223. Beware the man who doesn't make time for oo-mox.
229. Latinum lasts longer than lust.
236. You can't buy faith.
242. More is good...all is better.
255. A wife is a luxury...a smart accountant a necessity.
261. A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience.
263. Never allow doubt to tarnish your lust for latinum.
266. When in doubt, lie.
284. Deep down everyone's a Ferengi.
285. No good deed ever goes unpunished.
286. When Morn leaves, it's all over.
287. If they want their money back, give it to them.
289. Greed is dead. ,
290. Never place profit above friendship.
291. Latinum tarnishes, but family is forever.
292. Money can never replace dignity.
293. A good deed is its own reward.

Randy
5th March 2003, 12:48 PM
I think I may have some more to go with those. Here is another tid bit I have used.


The Ferengi “Great Material Continuum”


"You have to have faith… in the Great Material Continuum… the force that binds the universe together… (everywhere) in the universe, there are (places) filled with too much of one thing and not enough of another and the Great Continuum flows through them all like a mighty river: from 'have' to 'want' and back again. And if we navigate the Continuum with skill and grace our (lives) will be filled with everything our hearts desire… Trust and the river will provide." - "Nog" ("Star Trek: Deep Space Nine")


What is required are tools or instruments to help navigate the treacherous waters of the Continuum.

The Continuum is the Business World, The “Haves” are the suppliers and the “Wants” are the customers. ISO 9001 & ISO 14001 are navigation tools that can help bring them both together.



Cool huh?

CarolX
5th March 2003, 02:01 PM
Randy,

The Great Material Continuum

What a great concept. I remember that episode and saying "wow"!!!

BTW - Did you purchase your first season DVD set. My hubby was never a big DS9 fan, primarily because he didn't watch it. Now that he has seen the whole first season, he's changed his mind. He thinks the series had some of the best story writing of all the franchise. I have to agree.

CarolX

P.S. A co-worker that knows less than nothing about Star Trek threatened me with a "Vulcan Mind Warp". I almost died of laughter!!!!!

Randy
5th March 2003, 02:44 PM
Of all of the series in the Star Trek franchise DS9 had the best writing and overall storyline. The 7 year development of the characters surpassed any of the others. Once you got past the makeup the characters became real people because of what was happening. You had real life and death issues, and the deaths were not always sanitary as in the other Trek programs. Ben Sisko (Avery Brooks) became a man who was able to justify murder for the sake of the continued existance of his way of life. There was real intrigue.

The charactoer played by Andrew Robinson (the killer in the original Dirty Harry BTW), Garak had so many personalities that one minute you loved him and the next you despised him.

Nog, a teenage Ferengi played by Aron Eisenberg and nephew to Quark, went from being a rotten kid to a responsible member of Starfleet and an amputee resulting from combat realted injuries (he hit a mine). That episode ( The Seige of AR-558, airdate 14 Nov 98) and the one where Nog came home as an amputee having mental problems were two of the best produced.

DS9 is a great TV series to do character study.

Randy
5th March 2003, 02:47 PM
On a lighter note, here's some more Ferengi stuff.

Ferengi Rules, New and Unwritten

286. When Morn leaves, it's all over.

299. Whenever you exploit someone, it never hurts to thank them. (That way, it's easier to exploit them the next time.)

?. The more time they take deciding, the more money they will spend.

?. The greater (the) amount you are taking from someone, the greater the distraction must be.

?. A bargain usually isn't.

?. One person's secret is another person's opportunity.

?. The hand that holds the latinum may also hide a dagger.

?. You can tell a great deal about a man from his shoes.

?. Time's an asset.

?. Your goods are now my goods.

?. Exploitation begins at home.

?. When you see a good deal, jump on it.

?. A Ferengi without a head for business has no future.

?. Business is business, even among friends.

?. Everything has a price.

?. Ears open, eyes wide.

?. Never believe anyone taller than you.

?. There's a Rule of Acquisition to cover everything, but that doesn't mean one always has to be applied.

?. It's better to live on one's feet than to die on one's knees.

?. It’s better to live on one’s knees than to die on one’s feet.


This is great stuff!!!!!!!!!!!

RCBeyette
6th March 2003, 02:08 PM
CarolX said:

A co-worker that knows less than nothing about Star Trek threatened me with a "Vulcan Mind Warp". I almost died of laughter!!!!!

In school, we learned a very important mental trick to help us relax before a big exam....the Vulcan Mind Dump. :vfunny:

CarolX
6th March 2003, 02:21 PM
RCBeyette said:

In school, we learned a very important mental trick to help us relax before a big exam....the Vulcan Mind Dump. :vfunny:

ROTFLMAO

:biglaugh: :vfunny: :biglaugh:

Carol

Randy Stewart
6th March 2003, 02:44 PM
As much as I enjoyed DS9, TNG is my choice. I did enjoy Sisko and the baseball, it was something to think that baseball survived that long. I guess the whole thing with a Navy set up is what caused me to be interested in TNG. Then with working with the B3 "Resistence is futile".:biglaugh:

CarolX
7th March 2003, 11:41 AM
Randy Stewart,

My first exposure to Star Trek was when I was 6 years old and the original series aired. It took me 4 seasons to break down and watch TNG. Obviously, resistance is futile. LOL.

I like them all, although I don't have time to get into the new series. We will just wait and buy them on DVD. By that time I will need a special rider on my homeowners policy to cover the value of all these DVDs. LOL

What can I say, except beam me up.

CarolX

RosieA
4th April 2003, 12:34 PM
What a relief! An odds and ends thread that isn't discussing the war, hunting, depressing life changes, Homeland Security, or dead things!

Carol, thank you so much for sharing the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition! I bow to your superior knowledge...did you really write them down as they happened??? That's a new definition of obsessive!

I was always touched by Odo's unrequited love for Major Kira. I loved TNG too, but found DS9 richer and more, dare I say, human.

Worf is still my hero, and, as "the honorable warrior" should be the patron saint of quality people!

However, Jean Luc Picard has my heart for all eternity.

Randy
4th April 2003, 05:46 PM
Capt Jean Luck Pikkard has you heart for eternity? He was a wimp!! He did the right, honorable and manly thing like grab Beverly Crusher, say that her loved her and plant a liplock that would need 5 lbs of TNT to dislodge.

RosieA
4th April 2003, 05:54 PM
Not all us ladies like the 5lb liplock approach, Randy! Jean Luc was honorable, thoughtful, decisive, intelligent and needed someone with a sense of humor to lighten him up.

I'm that woman...just waiting for him to notice me.:D

(of course, I'm not sure how I'd explain all this to my husband and kids)

CarolX
7th April 2003, 02:23 PM
RosieA said:

Carol, thank you so much for sharing the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition! I bow to your superior knowledge...did you really write them down as they happened??? That's a new definition of obsessive!



Rosie,

I gotta admit, I didn't write them down. I lifted them from a fandom site. Shame on me!!!!

But obsessive - you bet! I met my husband 4 years ago in the starfleet chat room. Gotta love Gene!

CarolX

Mike S.
7th April 2003, 03:39 PM
Randy said:

Capt Jean Luck Pikkard has you heart for eternity? He was a wimp!! He did the right, honorable and manly thing like grab Beverly Crusher, say that her loved her and plant a liplock that would need 5 lbs of TNT to dislodge.
Randy = Q??? Nah....he just uses his pronunciation and spelling habits.:vfunny:

Jean Luc a wimp? I'd have thought that if nothing else the way he stood-up to the Cardassian's torture would have made you proud, Randy. Besides, Beverly was bowlegged and boring. Vash was more his type, but no female was more important than his job.

TNG gets my vote as the best of the Treks. DSN never got and kept my attention.

Rosie -- Trek contained LOTS of war, hunting, depressing life changes, homeland security, and dead things. :eek:

Randy
7th April 2003, 10:52 PM
Jean Luc was tough, he did eat that nasty looking egg. He was however ready to fold and admit there were 3 (?) lights. Hecould never get over being Locutus though.

How could you say that about Beverly? That red hair! Her stature! That pout she had! Whew!

As or Randy=Q? Never happen. My goal was trying to play a Klingon during the filming of the series. My letters were never answered. I'm a real warrior, not those Hollywod wannabe's.

QaH'pLah!

db
8th April 2003, 11:50 AM
Picard was a lousy leader. He went way too far in soliciting opinions from his subordinates. They controlled him.

Sisko was a better leader (and IMO a better actor). I didn't like the way his "Emmisary" status ended either. I thought it would have been much better if his role with the Prophets was never clarified.

I don't really like the new show. Archer is more plastic than Kirk was! Totally unbelievable character!

I must say, I'm not too thrilled with this new editing method on posts. FWIW

Mike S.
8th April 2003, 12:01 PM
Picard a lousy leader? Gotta disagree with you there, db. Excellent in my book. In fact, I think someone wrote a "how-to" leadership book based on Picard's style. I'd rather work for a Picard than any of the others, and if I were in charge of Starfleet, I'd rather have him commanding my flagship than anyone. He balanced warrior with diplomat quite well. And, I think polls of ST fans show Picard gets the overall nod among the various captains. JMO. We Cove people just can't seem to agree on anything, can we!:vfunny:

Randy
8th April 2003, 11:21 PM
db...the ending of DS9 I thought would have been dynamic was that the entire series was just a dream of "Bennie" the writer of the Science Fiction stories. The 2 episodes that the DS9 crew did were among the best of the bunch, especially the 1st one.

DS9 went farther than any of the other series did with exploring human relations, interactions, fears, desires and condition. If you were to view DS9 from the beginning to the end in sequencential order you eventually forget to notice the makeup and wind up paying more attention to the character and their development.

One of the great characters was that of Garak, played by Andrew Robinson the "killer" in the original Dirty Harry movie. He evolved from someone who was of questionable chaacter to an individual capable of extreme bravery, concern for others, totally trustworthy and quite honorable.

Another minor charactor, played by a good young actor Arron Eisenburg, was Nog, the young Ferengi. We watched Nog mature from an irresponsible teen to a dedicated, brave and proud young man in his service to Starfleet. Two stories with Nog stick out, "The Siege of AR-557" where he was injured and the following episode where he came home as a devistated amputee.


DS9 was the best

Randy Stewart
9th April 2003, 09:34 AM
Excellent in my book.
I agree Mike, he really reminded me of a couple of sub captains I had the pleasure of serving under. He used his staff for options and wasn't too proud to ask for input. However when it came to making the split second decisions he did not hessitate. I think Sisko had to be a strict authoritarian due to the "civilian" element on the station. There was more cause for concern with the make up of the entire station and the political atmosphere. He had to keep tight control of the situation.
As for the development of the characters in DS9, I believe you're right especially Nog! I believe you can find the same with TNG. Look at #2 and Data in "Encounter at Farpoint" to the 1st and 2nd Borg encounters.
I did love "Q", I thought his character was well researched. He acted like a spoiled child.

Tea Earl Grey - Hot.

db
9th April 2003, 09:54 AM
Picard failed to make key decisions. He always looked to his staff to make them. He led by committee.

I also noticed that each series had one special character that would "save" the day. TNG had the "saviour child" that always found ways to discover the answers that the adults couldn't. I liked Barcley's character the best.

At least DS9 had a changling, although the special character was the doctor what was "genetically enhanced".

I agree that Nog was a good character study, as was Sisko's kid.

Here is an interesting study. Take the good/evil traits of D&D and apply them to the characters of all of Star Treck series. Who was pure good, chaotic good, chaotic evil and pure evil? Hmm.........

Randy Stewart
9th April 2003, 10:51 AM
Sorry db, that game already exists!
I liked Barcley also, his character was so different from all the others it stood out. If I had to choose I guess I'd go with Data as my favorite. I did enjoy the character of Quark on DS9 a lot.

Randy
9th April 2003, 11:37 PM
Favorites? Hmmmmmm.....

Michael Dorn as Worf would probably top the list. He went from being just another character in TNG to the single most important Klingon in his empire and the Federation. Without a doubt his honor was without question and his loyalty to his friends and his people never waivered. He turned down complete power as Chancelor of the Klingon Empire in favor of his friend and adoptive parent Martok (another great character).

Sisko (Avery Brooks) started out mediocre but, because of circumstances outside of his control he proved himself capable of commiting acts that the others Star Trek captains would have never considered or thought of.

Nog, right at the top for the reasons I previously stated.

Garak & Quark, what can you say? Both were developed well beyond original plans.

The Borg......if something is bad enough to scare a Klingon into calling mommy it's got to be bad.

The original Jem Hadar.....probably scared the Borg.

Mike S.
10th April 2003, 10:53 AM
db said:

Picard failed to make key decisions. He always looked to his staff to make them. He led by committee.


Can you provide examples of where you think this happened in an inappropriate manner, db? I thought leaders were supposed to get input from subordinates and then make the final decision on their own, which I what I saw Picard do, unless my menory is failing again. :confused:

Favorite characters? Lots of 'em. Worf, Data, Picard, Spock, Scottie, Hugh, Q (the first one we saw).

Randy Stewart
10th April 2003, 11:49 AM
Randy,
You really think that the Jem Hadar would have kicked Borg butt?
Interesting, I always looked at J-M as being below Klingon but more backstabbing than the Cardascians,

Mike S.
10th April 2003, 12:02 PM
Wasn't there a nasty bunch called "Species 6231" or something like that on Voyager that supposedly kicked the Borg around? I didn’t watch much Voyager, but maybe someone who did can help me out here.

CarolX
10th April 2003, 02:31 PM
Mike,

I don't rembember their exact designation...but here's the skinny as I remeber...

The species looked a lot like "Alien" only smaller, about the size of a Kilingon. The did not live in our dimension, but came from fluidic space. That's about all I can remeber. I will have to wait till the DVD set's come out to refresh my memeory....or if I can remember to look it up in my encylopedia.

Favorites - 1st has to be Deanna Troi....we share much in common...primarily, our love of chocolate. Marina and I also share an exact birthday. 2nd would be Jim Kirk...if my mom didn't think he was so "hot"...where would I be today?????

CarolX

Randy Stewart
10th April 2003, 02:40 PM
Carol you're right. A cross between Alien and a Preying Mantis about 10 - 12 ft tall. Bad dudes alright.
Thanks Mike, I forgot about them and I did watch Voyager. Also reminded me of Jerri Ryan 7 of 9. I don't watch Boston Public so I don't see her anymore. Man what a teacher that would be!!:eek:
It would be like that old Van Halen video Hot For Teacher!

:smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

Mike S.
10th April 2003, 02:53 PM
Stew,

7 of 9. Oh my yes! Resistance was indeed futile. :cool:

Carol,

Exactly -- fluidic space. That's it. Bad som b1thces if I remember correctly.

Randy
10th April 2003, 10:43 PM
Species 4762 I believe & they did kick some serious bootie, but Kate Janeway made 'em back down, so how tough could they really be?

Janeway turned out OK too and a tougher nut the wimpy old, skirt chasing Tiberious ever thought about being.

Randy Stewart
11th April 2003, 09:47 AM
It's a bit tough to compare Janeway and Kirk though. You have to take into consideration the social climate of the day. The original series was such a ground breaker with the different nationalities being main characters and remember it was the 60's. I think that led to the skirt chasing. Have you read any of the books based on the original series? The civilization that Kirk came from was very promiscuous. The Captain had his own Yeoman to make sure his "needs" were taken care of during the 5 year mission! I'm not sure but I think there was a hint to this in the series with the Yeoman Rand character.
Could "Rand" be short for Randy as in the quote from Austin Powers "Do I make you Randy, baby".:biglaugh:
Another interesting comparison is the 1st Officers. Spock was the brains and the Kirk the brawn, but in TNG and Voyager its the 1st Officers who are the brawn (Chekotae, and Rieker).
I better stop or you'll start thinking I wear my, I mean a Star Fleet uniform to work!
:vfunny:

CarolX
11th April 2003, 02:24 PM
What are your thoughts on the new show?

We don't watch it. mainly because we don't have time to devote to it....too many kids. So we will wait for it to come out on DVD.

Last nite the hubby and I were talking about the new show, agreeing that the only direction the franchise could take with a new show was to do a "prequel" type show.

I came up with a great idea for the next series. Set 100 years post-TNG, the Borg and the Dominion have taken over all of the galaxy, the Federation destroyed, just a few bands of Terans left....and we revolt!


Randy
I better stop or you'll start thinking I wear my, I mean a Star Fleet uniform to work!

Go for it! My hubby owns one, and it's a blast when he wears it!

Carol

Randy Stewart
11th April 2003, 02:51 PM
It's on here on Wednesday nights and again on Sundays. It seems that either the Wings or Pistons are playing and so it gets preempted a good deal on Wednesdays and I never seem to remember to watch it on Sunday. I have seen a few, including last weeks, and for the most part I like it. I have a difficult time with the ship. It looks more like the NCC-1701D than the NCC-1701A, just one of those purest things I guess. The characters aren't bad and I'm really glad to see that they don't have that "universal translator" already. The episodes I have seen have been pretty clean but they follow more of the TNG protocol instead of the original.
I thought they would come out with a show based on a Star Fleet colony and carry over some of the DS9 & TNG characters for continuity. They had the original crew in TNG and TNG in DS9.
I'm not sure if Archer is in the line of Star Fleet Captains. Like Randy mentioned even Janeway became hard nosed. Archer just doesn't seem to fit that mold. But I guess you have to remember that Sisko, Picard and Janeway came after Kirk and Archer was laying the ground work for Kirk.
It sounds like I don't like it doesn't it? Because I haven't really gotten into the flow of the show yet it's been hard to follow the entire story line of all this being new. I don't think it's the shows fault.

Mike S.
11th April 2003, 04:31 PM
CarolX said:

What are your thoughts on the new show?

We don't watch it. mainly because we don't have time to devote to it....too many kids. So we will wait for it to come out on DVD.

Last nite the hubby and I were talking about the new show, agreeing that the only direction the franchise could take with a new show was to do a "prequel" type show.

I came up with a great idea for the next series. Set 100 post-TNG, the Borg and the Dominion have taken over all of the galaxy, the Federation destroyed, just a few bands of Terans left....and we revolt!Carol
Well, if they did it that way I guess Brent Spiner and Whoopi could still appear on the new series! Maybe some grandkids of Worf, Riker, or Troi?? There are so few good shows on TV anymore I'd welcome a new ST series. Anything ST related must be better than some of the crap on now.

Haven't watched too much of the new series. Watched a few and for some reason it just didn't grab me and interest me much. This time of year I watch less TV and play outside more. I still watch TNG reruns, though, from time to time. I like it when enough time passes that I forget some of the episode.

Anybody wanna go to favorite eposodes? For TNG "The Best of Both Worlds" (where Picard becomes Borg) is gotta be my overall favorite. I always thought that could easily have been a successful big-screen movie.

CarolX
11th April 2003, 05:02 PM
Okay...I'll list mine

TOS - Space Seed
TNG - Inner Light
DS9 - Need some help on this one - I don't remeber the name, but Ben Sisko is lost in an accident and Jake spend his entire life trying to get his father back.
VOY - The Year of ****

Now....Top three favorite movies...

1) ST II - Wrath of Kahn
2) First Contact
3) ST IV - The Voyage Home


Carol

RosieA
11th April 2003, 05:17 PM
Carol, My husband doesn't have the uniform (that must be fun!) but I do have a Jean-Luc action figure and a Jean -Luc TNG card propped up on the desk in my bedroom.:D

I don't remember episode names, but here we go:

TOS: the one where Spock goes back in time before Vulcans became logical and he seduces Maretta Hartley in a cave (hubba, hubba!)

TNG: The one where the whole crew de-evolved while Data and Jean Luc were away...it's the only TV show where I screamed out loud in fright (when the de-evolved Deanna popped up out of the primordal ooze)

DS9: The one where Quark (albeit very reluctantly) defends the female Ferengi who mascaraded as a male. I was always sorry she never reappeared.

Didn't watch a whole lot of Voyager because we didn't get it here for several years, and having missed the beginning, I had a hard time figuring things out.

RosieA
11th April 2003, 05:20 PM
How about favorite Star Trek quotes?

My favorites are always Worf-isms:

"Sir, I protest! I am NOT a merry man!"

or who could forget the immortal:

"It's a polypeptid cake...with mint frosting"

SteelMaiden
11th April 2003, 05:25 PM
OK, here goes, I am really a lightweight when it comes to trivia, so ya'll just go on now and make fun of me...

My favorite was "The Trouble with Tribbles"

My oldest has caught the ST fever with the new series, I watch it, it's better than the alternatives but dag, I just don't think anything can replace the original...

"Beam me up, Scottie"

and

"I'm given 'er all she's got, captain"

\\ //
|| (my computer rendition of the Vulcan greeting sign (LOL))

Mike S.
11th April 2003, 05:59 PM
I don't remember most episode names. What was the TNG episode where in a matter of about 30 minutes a probe beamed memories into Picard so that he "lived" another life on a doomed planet? That was pretty cool.

And the episdoe where the rogue Starfleet captain that O'Brien used to work with was zapping Cardassian ships. In the end Picard gave the Cardassian captain a pretty stern "we'll be watching" lecture that might have parallels to the US today. Diplomacy first, but a warning that if that doesn't work there are other options.

The episode where there were an infinite number of parallel universes and a couple hundred thousand hails came in at once --- all from the Enterprize. Makes you think...

When Picard was told by Q he was dead but could go back and change the "mistakes" in his life, which made Picard a wimpy Ensign. Again, makes you think...

Quotes:

By Q: "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you oughtta go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid."

By Worf, to Troi's Mom: "It's Worf, not Woof"

Picard, last line of the last episode: "Five card stud, nothing wild. And the sky's the limit"

And of course, the infamous Borg line, "Resistance is futile."

What a great buncha shows!

RCBeyette
11th April 2003, 06:03 PM
Mike S. said:

I don't remember most episode names. What was the TNG episode where in a matter of about 30 minutes a probe beamed memories into Picard so that he "lived" another life on a doomed planet? That was pretty cool.



That would be "The Inner Light" previously mentioned. I managed to download the notes to the song Picard plays on the 'flute'...beautiful tune. :)

Randy
11th April 2003, 11:58 PM
I think RBC is right about that Picard specific episode. I also think it was submitted for or won a Peabody or some type of award.

All the episodes mentioned above by everyone were great, no doubt about it.

The new series is lacking, there is no pizzaz. The best part of a majority of the programs is the opening montage with the theme song, especially the part with Allen Sheppard. These folks (Enterprise) are placed about 75 - 100 years before TOS and they're boring. I like Scott Bakula, but his portrayal of Jonathan Archer is as interesting as a used kleenex. If they don't liven the show up, it's doomed to 1 more season at the most.

Mike S.
14th April 2003, 09:56 AM
Agreed, Randy. The intro is good. I never liked the idea of prequels, anyway. It's bas-ackward! I like Carol's idea for a new series better. Carol -- submit your script!

RosieA
14th April 2003, 10:09 AM
I especially like the flute tune played in the acoustically perfect intersection of two Jeffries tubes in a later episode.

As for the new series, while I haven't seen it, the first year of TNG was pretty wooden too. I always disliked Tasha Yar, so I'm wasn't sorry to see her go. She made a much better Romulon.

Randy
14th April 2003, 12:05 PM
They played Tasha too masculine and the character had a personality about as deep as a parking lot puddle. Tasha could have been more feminine but tough as nails like Bev Crusher and still been effective.

She was a better Romulan!

CINDY
14th April 2003, 12:25 PM
FOR ALL TRUE TREK FANS: THE NEW SERIES IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE OTHERS. I LIKED IT FROM THE OPENING. CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND NOT MISSING FROM THIS SERIES.

I HAVE WATCH ALL THE TREK SERIES AND SEEN ALL THE MOVIES. ACTUALLY, I EVEN HAVE A UNIFORM IN MY CLOSET LEFT OVER FROM HALLOWEEN THAT I BOUGHT FOR TO MY DAUGHTER.

EACH OF THE SERIES WAS UNIQUE IN ITS OWN WAY. PRETTY SMART IF YOU ASK ME. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER SERIES THAT HAS HAD SO MANY SPIN OFFS? CONTINUED FOR SO LONG?

CarolX
14th April 2003, 12:25 PM
RCBeyette said:

That would be "The Inner Light" previously mentioned. I managed to download the notes to the song Picard plays on the 'flute'...beautiful tune. :)

RCB,

Any chance I could get a copy of that?
E-mail to give me a link. My hubby would love it!


My favorite quote has to be Q speaking to Worf

"Ah Microbrain, eaten any good books lately"

I use that one on little Johnny all the time!


Carol

Laura M
14th April 2003, 08:03 PM
You guys are scaring me. I'm surrounded by Trekkies in the Quality field? I knew we were a weird bunch, but I don't know any of this. Can I be the only one? Is this a requirement for being in Quality. Seeing as quality is closely related to logical .... Hey, I'm starting to get it. Maybe I'll have to rent all the back episodes and get caught up!

CarolX
16th April 2003, 12:30 PM
Laura,

Many of us find Star Trek enjoyable for many reasons. The ST future is one of cooperation and thirst for knowledge. Perhaps as a race we will be there one day.

Carol

Al Dyer
16th April 2003, 12:57 PM
Looks the Ferengis have a goal and at least a policy that could lead them to success.

From a capitalist and an objectivist at heart!

Rand Lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

RosieA
16th April 2003, 06:03 PM
I think, Laura, that the essense of quality is much like the essense of Star Trek, because every day "we boldly go when no one has gone before". (and mostly because no one else WANTS to go where we go!):vfunny:

RosieA
22nd April 2003, 03:56 PM
And speaking of Patrick Stewart...

X-Men 2 comes out this weekend! Yee Ha! Professor X is on my list along with Jean Luc.

At the risk of embarrassing myself:o , I've been reading X-men since 1967 and was quite pleased with the actors chosen to portray my favorites. Although they did take some liberties with Rouge's history.

Anyone else an X-fanatic?

CINDY
22nd April 2003, 04:19 PM
And what is X-Men?

RosieA
22nd April 2003, 04:31 PM
Cindy, Cindy, Cindy...oh my.

The X-Men are mutants, each with special powers, led by Professor X at his school for "gifted" children in Connecticut (maybe energy is a graduate?)

While they are feared and reviled by society in general, they are dedicated to protecting mankind from evil mutants, of whom there are many.

They are Marvel Comic Book characters created by the amazing Stan Lee, and were immortalized in film 2 years ago. (now available in VHS and DVD at your favorite video rental store)

There are strong parallels to Quality, so you have to rent the video as a homework assignment and report back by next Monday:D

Randy
22nd April 2003, 04:37 PM
RosieA said:
At the risk of embarrassing myself:o , I've been reading X-men since 1967 and was quite pleased with the actors chosen to portray my favorites.

Anyone else an X-fanatic?

I 1st read the X-men long before 1967....Marvel Comics at it best along with Fantastic 4, Iron Man, Spider Man, Sub-Mariner, Hulk, Sgt Fury, I think Metal Men, and many others.

RosieA
22nd April 2003, 04:43 PM
Must be you're a little older than me, Randy! ;)

Let's not forget Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Daredevil (although the movie sucked) and Captain Marvel!

But, X-men and the New Mutants were always my favorites. I always felt that the Alien movies stole their story line from X-Men and The Brood story line.

CINDY
22nd April 2003, 04:47 PM
Thanks for re-fresher. I do remember seeing the video. My husband had to rent it. I can't say it was my type of movie but not bad. I have never read "a" comit book so the movie was new to me.

Randy Stewart
25th April 2003, 08:54 AM
Can't say I've ever been into the X-men, just never took the time I guess.
Has anyone watch the "Dead Zone" series? I'm just now starting to get into the story line and it seems pretty good (much better than the movie). The only problem I have is when I see Anthony Michael Hall I still see him as he was in the "Breakfast Club"! Almost like seeing Zack from "Saved by the Bell" on NYPD Blue. Took me awhile to get over that shock!