keyplas
17th April 2003, 10:35 AM
I was asked this question this morning and have no idea how to answer...does anyone know how ISO/IEC comes up with their numbers?
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View Full Version : Who Decides on the Number of the Standard? keyplas 17th April 2003, 10:35 AM I was asked this question this morning and have no idea how to answer...does anyone know how ISO/IEC comes up with their numbers? Craig H. 17th April 2003, 11:02 AM Keyplas What a great question - I have no idea, but sure hope someone here knows. Craig energy 17th April 2003, 11:07 AM keyplas said: I was asked this question this morning and have no idea how to answer...does anyone know how ISO/IEC comes up with their numbers? Who comes up with numbering schemes for our streets, license plates, ss#, etc.? They could have as well been letters. I respectively submit that the questioner has a problem with seeing the forest but for the trees, or has too much time on their hands. If you are the one responsible for providing the answer to such thought provoking questions like this, you have your hands full. Welcome to the exciting Cove! :agree: :smokin: Atul Khandekar 17th April 2003, 11:11 AM Guess they have a random number generator !!:biglaugh: keyplas 17th April 2003, 01:58 PM Have sent the ISO Guru's my question, let's see if they can give a "Short" "understndable" answer or if this is going to kick off a 64 page redundant document about industry sectors, international consortiums and a meeting where-in a body or group of individuals representing every nation, state, and planet gathered and voted on their favorite numbers. I'll keep everyone posted (who knows it may end up as a question on jeapordy one day and you'll be able to answer it!) Randy 17th April 2003, 02:20 PM It's performed just about the same way that governments make decisions and organizations determine salary increases.. You start with a drunken, blindfolded, Chimpanzee on a rotating barstool.......:biglaugh: I told the mayor of our city this when we were bargaining for a pay raise, he turned purple, the audience at the City Council meeting rolled, and the council members scowled. It turned out I was right and the newsmedia ate it up!!:vfunny: :biglaugh: db 18th April 2003, 10:05 AM If I remember correctly. Each digit represents something. For example the first digit "1" represents manufacturing, so all manufacturing standards would start with "1" , and on down the line. I'm not sure that manufacturing is "1", but I do believe there is an actual numbering convention. In fact, I think there is an ISO standard on it (of course). Marc 18th April 2003, 12:06 PM Randy said: It's performed just about the same way that governments make decisions and organizations determine salary increases.. You start with a drunken, blindfolded, Chimpanzee on a rotating barstool.......:biglaugh: I told the mayor of our city this when we were bargaining for a pay raise, he turned purple, the audience at the City Council meeting rolled, and the council members scowled. It turned out I was right and the newsmedia ate it up!!:vfunny: :biglaugh: I would have PAID to see that! Randy 18th April 2003, 01:57 PM We also wound up getting about 16% instead of the 4.5 proposed by the Chief and supported by the mayor. The next year we got an additional 11%. We went up 27% in 2 years. I still have copies of the newspaper clippings (23 0r so years old now). It was a blast:biglaugh: keyplas 22nd April 2003, 09:47 AM The numbering of ISO standards has no real meaning, except to identify them. Usually they are numbered in a progressive order, where newer standards have higher numbers. Sometimes some technical committees (the committees that develop the standards) reserve a certain range of numbers for their standards and that's why standards related to certain subjects (like Quality Management) may have similar numbers even if released in different stages. In any case, there is no particular meaning in the number chosen for an ISO standard. Thank you for your interest in ISO. Yours sincerely, Joseph Martinez Information Officer ISO Online: http://www.iso.org :bonk: :vfunny: :vfunny: So the mystery is solved (makes you wonder how they develop the rest of the standards eh?) Randy Stewart 22nd April 2003, 03:44 PM I always thought they sat around with Pyramids on their head rubbing the little QS logo (1 world - 1 quality system) waiting for enlightenment! Any organization that has to have a publication just for vocabulary must be enlightened (i.e. ISO A8402-1994 and Ford Speak)!!:biglaugh: keyplas 22nd April 2003, 05:01 PM Sorry, didn't mean to rile up the natives....It was a question that was asked of me, and I was just trying to satisfy the masses... Have a great Day..:ca: Al Dyer 22nd April 2003, 07:38 PM Jim my friend, Maybe "body" of the U.N. was inproper use of language. Do a search on any engine with the words "ISO" and "United Nations". http://www.iso.ch/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/04background-on-iso-3166/iso3166-ma-members.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- ISO 3166/MA membersThe composition of the ISO 3166/MA reflects the two stakeholder groups which were primarily involved in the development of ISO 3166 in the early 1970s: national standards organizations, members of ISO, and United Nations agencies.Of the ten experts with voting rights on the ISO 3166/MA five are representatives of the following national standards organizations:· Association française de normalisation AFNOR (France) ·American National Standards Institute ANSI (United States) · British Standards Institution BSI (United Kingdom) · Deutsches Institut für Normung DIN (Germany) · Swedish Standards Institute SIS (Sweden) The other five are representatives of major UN organizations who are all users of ISO 3166-1:· International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) · International Telecommunication Union (ITU) · Universal Postal Union (UPU) · Statistics Department of the United Nations in New York (UNSD) ·United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) / United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) and more available through the link! Al Dyer 23rd April 2003, 12:23 AM Jim, Is there a reason that ISO and the U.N. share the same global logo?:) energy 23rd April 2003, 11:06 AM Jim Wade said: Interesting observation, Al! The two logos (see below) are indeed identical, aren't they? I reckon therre are two possible explanations - take your pick. 1 The two organisations are international, and each chose a globe for that reason. 2 The two organisations are part of an evil conspiracy, aimed at the USA in general, and at you personally in particular. ;) rgds Jim You Bully! They are about as identical as you and I. :biglaugh: Al, Jim is yanking your chain.....I think. If he's not it's because I missed the intent due to laughing too hard. What a p1sser!:vfunny: :ko: :smokin: Randy Stewart 23rd April 2003, 11:22 AM They are identical. If you stand on your head, close one eye and cover the other eye. See, they have a circle on a blue background. :biglaugh: The two organisations are part of an evil conspiracy, aimed at the USA in general, I think you may be on to something there Jim, they sure have adapted to capitalism!!!!:bonk: :smokin: Al Dyer 23rd April 2003, 01:18 PM O.K. Guys, I will drop it as well as my conspiacy(sp) thoughts!!! |
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