I just did some major internal updates to the code. If you experience any problems, please report them as Replies in this thread.

Thanks,

Marc

Can't reply to your thread because I'm taken to a nice shot of the universe every time I try.

See if it works now.

I believe I have corrected the bug taking folks to the 404 page when trying to post a Reply in a thread.

Originally posted by Marc
I believe I have corrected the bug taking folks to the 404 page when trying to post a Reply in a thread.

Testing, testing... So far everything seems to be in working order...

/Claes

Added later: Oops... Maybe I spoke too soon? Forum statistics two seems to be lost in space, and I note that the number of registered posts have decreased quite a bit for several people (house cleaning?).

Originally posted by Claes Gefvenberg
Testing, testing... So far everything seems to be in working order...

/Claes

Added later: Oops... Maybe I spoke too soon? Forum statistics two seems to be lost in space, and I note that the number of registered posts have decreased quite a bit for several people (house cleaning?).

If you're talking about the statistics links... Which I doubt you are...

There will be inconsistencies because the two statistics hacks - well, I've not really gone through either is so far as to specifically what they're doing (where / how they're getting their numbers) by manually parsing the php and related code. I've had to edit php scripts to insert triggers. On the original install everything went well - way back. I've tried to keep the original table in the database which may be what's screwing things up as this is a newer version and I may have missed something. I'll be looking at it.

In Statistics One, I told the counters not to look at the 'Coffee Break' forums for its numbers. I cannot restrict forums in this way in Statistics Two. Thus, if you look at each you will see inconsistencies in several areas.

I think you're responding to this:

I did make one change to the forum software preferences which will definitely be noticed. In a thread the number of posts for a poster is stated. I changed the preferences so that posts to threads in the 'Coffee Break' forums do not 'count'. I did this because I'm really a lot more interested in having a number related to posts in forums relevant to the site's original intent. The Coffee Break forums are play forums if you catch my drift.

Originally posted by Marc

I think you're responding to this:

I did make one change to the forum software preferences which will definitely be noticed. In a thread the number of posts for a poster is stated. I changed the preferences so that posts to threads in the 'Coffee Break' forums do not 'count'. I did this because I'm really a lot more interested in having a number related to posts in forums relevant to the site's original intent. The Coffee Break forums are play forums if you catch my drift.

You really know how to hurt a guy! Cut my numbers in half. :vfunny: Yes, I'm just a fun guy! Regardless of the numbers, there are no merit badges for the number of posts, I'd take these threads over some of that pompus drivel in those "relevant" threads, anytime. :p :smokin:

Originally posted by Marc
---X---
I think you're responding to this:

I did make one change to the forum software preferences which will definitely be noticed. In a thread the number of posts for a poster is stated. I changed the preferences so that posts to threads in the 'Coffee Break' forums do not 'count'. I did this because I'm really a lot more interested in having a number related to posts in forums relevant to the site's original intent. The Coffee Break forums are play forums if you catch my drift.

Yep... So I did... No worries though, I was just wondering. :agree:

/Claes

And from purely ;) 'stats' point of view, why not show both the numbers?:biglaugh:

The bottom line is there are limitations of the php scripts and of my body of knowledge. On the other hand, I'm not sure the numbers are really significant anyway. A lot of the stuff in the two stats programs are guesstimates - such as referrers and what web browsers are used and such. Both the statistics programs are free 'hacks' so theres no room for me to complain.

Statistics One is limited to certain forums by software prefs which I set.

Statistics Two does not have the same switches as Statistics One has so there's where you can see better numbers with respects to posts. These are the 'gross' numbers, if you will.

On another level, Statistics One isn't a big deal - not terribly cpu intensive.

Statistics Two is very cpu extensive.

I did clear some screwed up days from the Statistics Two database field so there's a gap between about 4-4 and last Wednesday.

You may notice that in Statistics Two the Most Users Ever Online (at the same time) is screwed up. I'm guessing it is called from one of the vBullitin database fields because when I looked at the 'main' forums page I found it too, for some reason, is not registering the true figure which was last Dec 11th @ 99 people. I see the record of that day in a database field but haven't found the 'hiding place' of where it's pulling that number from, am too lazy to want to go through the php scripts and mysql calls right now to see where it's being called from - maybe something to do this weekend. But no big deal. We'll see where the Most Online number goes from here.

Also in Statistics Two is The Last 10 Searches. I'm not confident it is registering correctly. Not a big deal but is interesting from time to time to see what folks are looking for.

Energy, how many posts were you robbed of? Do you know? I'm just curious.

Atul, you're into software and I'd gladly give you the board code to analyze and the code to the hacks. If you wanted you could write a real nice stats program, I bet. But - let's wait until after the new version comes out if you want to do something like that. No sense spending a lot of time when the changes in the scripts are seriously changing. Even the database fields are changing. It includes threaded views and a 'combination' threaded/linear view to complement the current linear view. Obviously both of these statistical programs will be of no value. I have no idea how long it will be, or even if, the stats hacks are updated to work with the new version. So ---> Don't get too attached to these stats hacks.

After the update comes out and I have it installed, if you want to see the scripts and want to try to write a stats hack, I'll be more than happy to provide the scripts to you for that purpose.

Originally posted by Marc

Energy, how many posts were you robbed of? Do you know? I'm just curious.


As I said before, who cares? But, As you have asked, it's about 800 or so. But, like you say, it's not the amount...it's about substance. If I thought there was a measure that produced tangible results, I would still have to defer the reward to the "Qualitative" rather than the "Quantitative" posts. :vfunny: Hey, I'm a fun guy who just likes the action in the non-relevant threads because that's where the real people are, opposed to those who love to give sermons and seek to impress the impressionable. Don't give it another thought.:agree: :smokin:

Originally posted by Marc
So ---> Don't get too attached to these stats hacks.


No No, I'm not 'attached' to the stats at all !! My remark was just a casual one (not "counted", in any case :biglaugh: )

I was looking at the Poll - 'Engineer or not' and then went back to the main index. When I saw that the last poll in '... Coffee Breaks' was Claes on 21st May @ 11.16 am (even though I knew he was not online). I clicked on his name as last post and was taken back to 'Engineer or Not' and the last post by Tomvehoski (13 Feb 2003). I tried this a number of times with the same result. Yet in the Main index it showed Claes listed as the last Post @ 11.16 am 21st May and in the Index of Coffee it had Tomvehoski as the last post with the same time/Date.

What happened?

Greg B

I think what you're seeing is that when a Poll is in a thread, any time someone 'votes' the thread is updated even if they do not post. Since votes in polls are not matched to a member, it does not take one to the last 'vote' but rather the last post even though the vote is newer than the actual text post.

Thanks Marc for the quick response. I forgot that it was a poll and that would explain it

Greg

Marc,

I assume that posts in a 'Poll' thread don't get added to your posting numbers as mine never have but lately I don't think my postings have been added to my total posts. A quick look in my profile shows that I have more than the suggested 27. I know it's only a small thing but I like to see my efforts noted. Thanks

Greg B

Originally posted by Greg B
Marc,

I assume that posts in a 'Poll' thread don't get added to your posting numbers as mine never have but lately I don't think my postings have been added to my total posts. A quick look in my profile shows that I have more than the suggested 27. I know it's only a small thing but I like to see my efforts noted. Thanks

Greg B

I know of no reason why posts in a poll thread would not 'count' unless the poll is in a forum under the 'Odds and Ends' grouping. For example, this post is in the Forums Help and Coffee Break Talk forum and as such will not 'count'.

I ran an SQL query on the forum database. It indicates you have 39 posts of which 27 are in 'business' forums. The balance are in the forums under the Odds and Ends group of forums. Do those numbers seem right?

I do know there is a problem with a few of the stats such as 'Most People Online Simultaneously'. I plan to take a look at the scripts - maybe this weekend.

Here's a hiccup I get quite often:

Let's say Claes makes a post in a certain thread at 11:00 AM. I read it at 11:30 AM. Later the same day I do a "posts in the last 24 hours' search and I see Claes has apparently made a new post in that same thread, as the search shows a post by Claes at 3:00 PM, but when I go to the thread I see it is the same post he made at 11:00 AM. No additional post was made by Claes, but the software in the search told me he did.

Does anyone else have this problem or am I the only one?

Mike,

I also get that occasionally, always thought it was a problem between different poster from different time zones. Just a guess on my part.

Al...

Originally posted by Mike S.
Here's a hiccup I get quite often:

Let's say Claes makes a post in a certain thread at 11:00 AM. I read it at 11:30 AM. Later the same day I do a "posts in the last 24 hours' search and I see Claes has apparently made a new post in that same thread, as the search shows a post by Claes at 3:00 PM, but when I go to the thread I see it is the same post he made at 11:00 AM. No additional post was made by Claes, but the software in the search told me he did.

Does anyone else have this problem or am I the only one?

Mike,

Are you noticing this in threads that have a poll? If there is a poll it updates the last post information each time someone votes in the poll, even though there isn't a new post. I've seen this quite a few times with threads that have polls, but haven't noticed it in other threads yet.

Originally posted by Richard Olson
Mike,

Are you noticing this in threads that have a poll? If there is a poll it updates the last post information each time someone votes in the poll, even though there isn't a new post. I've seen this quite a few times with threads that have polls, but haven't noticed it in other threads yet.

This is a software switch I have set. Lots of times people are perusing the forums and find an older thread with a poll and read it and vote without posting a reply. The thread may be an old one. By having this switch on it just lets folks know a new vote has been added. If I turn it off the thread stays way down in the queue and there's nothing to let anyone know a new vote was added.

Thanks guys, I think that explains it. I should have seen that link to poll threads. :bonk: Of course, I was probably the only guy who didn't realize "Nosmo King" was "no smoking", too. :bonk: Being dense again, I guess.

Marc

Something seems to have happened.
The light bulbs work but in the specific forum the arrow that showed the new posts has gone.

I don't know if this is just me.

It seems to have come back now.
It is OK

Let me know if it happens again. I've been doing a lot in the background so the server is real busy.

Marc,

I seem to recall when you made the changes to the system and set-up the access to the posts, we were still allowed to access posts on the boards in this section. I can't seem to be able to download any attatchments (like in the hunting & fishing thread). Did I miss something else?

Thanks,
CarolX

Try it now.

Marc,

Much thanks!!!

CarolX

Marc,

I seem to recall when you made the changes to the system and set-up the access to the posts, we were still allowed to access posts on the boards in this section. I can't seem to be able to download any attatchments (like in the hunting & fishing thread). Did I miss something else?

Thanks,
CarolX

DITTO! I haven't been able to access post in the Odds and Ends section for some time now. I just assumed that you had changed your mind about allowing access to those of us that have not been able to fork out the $25.

But, if possible I too would appreciate access to these areas (without access, it's like hearing a joke but missing the punchline).

I reset the access for that forum for now and will make a decision as to what access will be after I get the new software up and running.

This is a brief update on what's happening with the board software.

I've been making a lot of changes reverting the board to an early state. This is making the transition easier mainly due to database changes some of the hacks made and to 'replacement sets' (certain variable replacements, page layout details {styles} and template definitions).

In the past I've heard many complaints about implementing charges, but folks should look at the history of the site and considering all, I believe 25 bucks a year is not asking much for those who frequent the site. Over 7 years online. Been here a long time.

The new software has 'subscriptions' built in so that will ease my burden here.

The Software Upgrade:

I have spent over 4 days (including much of the evenings / nights) so far and expect to spend another 3 or 4 days in getting this new software tested and online. The database export, transferring files to and from the server, and getting the information translated to the new database is a few hours. Then there's the post indexing - my testing here ran about 6000 posts an hour and there are effectively 52000+ posts. I had to debug the indexing script as indexing kept failing - which meant rebuilding several times in tests here to make sure when I do this on the live server no 'glitches' occur. Then comes the configuration. This software is a lot more complex than the current forums software and I expect to take a good day plus to get everything configured. It will probably be a complete 24 hours of down time for me to do the transition. Hopefully, since I'm testing everything here on my Mac first things will go smoothly. I'm getting acquainted with the software so configuration on the live server should go pretty quickly.

I spend a lot of time and effort to make these forums a nice place to visit and I believe it continues to serve as a valuable information resource even for those who elect not to 'contribute'. I believe most of you will go into shock when you experience this new software, it is so much nicer and easier to use. From digests to multiple attachments, this software is nice!

To those of you who have contributed in money or by posting quality related file attachments or by buying any of the file sets / editable file access, and to those who help others by answering questions, I want to say thanks! I and I'm sure everyone else who visits here appreciates your help and efforts!

It goes without saying how much I appreciate the efforts of each moderator (past and present), as well.

There was a glitch last night. Posts made between around 9 or 10 pm through to nearly 2 AM were lost. I doubt there were many posts it being late and all - so it goes. :(

Marc - FYI only...

Yesterday things were moving pretty fast (searches, post access, etc.) . Today, verrry slow. Maybe it is on my end -- we'll see if anyone else is experiencing it. Just thought the feedback might help you diagnose a problem -- if it exists. :bigwave:

It is just crawling on my end too.

Sue

It's a server problem. I'm going to look for another ISP today. It's so slow it's virtually unusable. I've called and e-mailed my ISP - maybe he can help like he did the other day, but this is getting rediculous.

Over here also....I thought it was my pc, but my other web sites are working fine and up to speed.

Thanks,
Christy

No to belabor a point, but for the last maybe 90 minutes I was unable to do anything except access the main elsmar.com page -- any searches or attempt to go to the forums brought up an error message. The message said it would e-mail the administrator -- don't know if it did or not. FYI...

There's not much I can do right now. I'm doing what I can as fast as I can. However, I would be lying if I said this will change over night. I'm going to set up on a different type of server account which takes a day or two - I have to figure this one out as it's different than this server, my PC and my Mac - not a quickie. It's bare - doesn't even have Apache yet. So - hopefully things will run OK until I can get changes made. Not to mention I've been screwing with this since about 1 am so I have to get some sleep soon.

Things have been going pretty smooth for quite some time now. Sorry for the hiccups. If I want to put out another US$300+ a month I can get a dedicated server. Just too expensive.

This is from my ISP:

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:30:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: GSP Customer Service <service@gsp.com>
To: Marc Smith <marc.smith@spamcop.net>
Subject: Re: VPS2 for shirley
In-Reply-To: <BB160C8F.2A56%marc.smith@spamcop.net>

Hi,

Verio said that a process by another user spiked the CPU load on your shirley server. They also setup a server status URL to make it easy to monitor the traffic.

Link Deleted so people don't abuse

On the VPS2, things are a little bit different. Its environment is more like a true dedicated FreeBSD. Just take a look at top. You have true root access, can configure multiple shell accounts, and can install updated software directly from the FreeBSD Ports Collection (instead of waiting for a vinstall).

It's a brand new product that we'll be releasing in July -- the documentation is still being written. I'll let you know as soon as its available.

* Content for vhosts is kept in the users directory (/home/USER/www/).

Dan

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Marc Smith wrote:

> On 6/18/03 12:26 PM, GSP Customer Service at service@gsp.com wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've created a VPS v2 account for you.
> >
> > account: xxxxxxxx
> > login: root (use this userid at first)
> > password: xxxxxx
> > IP Addr: xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Tmp Domain: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Please let me know if you have any questions. I'm on the phone with Verio
> > to see what is going on with your current VPS.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> > Dan

This is dedicated to energy (Mr. Bill) and his trigger about 1.5 years ago.... If you can do it for US$40.... That was a fun ;) transition...

As you know there have been a lot of problems recently with server latency. My ISP is subbing to me as a Verio reseller. My bottom line analysis is that Verio is going downhill and they're succumbing to - yes - poor 'quality'. I was on the phone much of the day Wednesday as was my ISP. Verio was blaming the forums. Then Verio admits that it's a Verio problem (own any Verio stock?) - another client's server 'spiked' mine. (Is it complex enough for you yet???)

I've had a 'virtual server' (not to be confused with a 'virtual host') for years because I wanted maximum bandwidth and response. Many folks buy a virtual server and sub out to others. I don't sub out to others - I want all the bandwidth for you folks.

Anyway, not only will I be doing the forums software update, I am also going through switching to a completely new server. Ugh. I don't even want to go into details, but it's a lot of changing of config files and such.

I'm very excited about the new forums software features and I believe you will all be impressed as well.

For new folks, I apologise for the short term problems with the server. The forums have been up for years and I believe this is the first major access problem since maybe 1998. I have evolved the site from a basic 'cheapie' back in 1996 to what it is today. I've been with this ISP for about 1.5 years and until the last couple of months the forums have run quite well for a long time.

So - hold tight! There are a lot of changes happening over the next 3 to 5 days!

Expect the server to be down some of this weekend - IF all goes well. I still have a lot of issues to resolve with respect to switching servers.

Now - I have to get some sleep and I have an appointment for a root canal tomorrow around noon so if things screw up tomorrow - I'm sorry but there's not much I can do.

Originally posted by Marc
This is dedicated to energy (Mr. Bill) and his trigger about 1.5 years ago.... If you can do it for US$40.... That was a fun transition...

Now - I have to get some sleep and I have an appointment for a root canal tomorrow around noon so if things screw up tomorrow - I'm sorry but there's not much I can do.

Yes, another attempt at humor that went sour! But, we got through it. Another root canal? Cripes, that must be at least 3 or 4 in the last 3 months. No wonder you're such a crab!:biglaugh: :smokin:

:biglaugh:

I had two root canals two months ago. Luckily my dentist is from way back and doesn't charge me much.

OK, folks, this is mostly it. There is a function which lists 'similar threads' which did not complete indexing which I'll fix tomorrow. That indexing took well over 7 hours before the indexing script failed. I'll have to look at it as on my test board it indexed in about 2 hours without failing.

Secondly, the new server is up and most of the files are copied over. This involves a DNS change as the IP will be changing. So - the change is supposed to start tomorrow (Saturday) at noon. It takes about 2 days or so while the DNS propagates around the world.

I will have the forums down in the morning because I have to back up the database here, transfer it to the other server and load it.

The bottom line is a big part of this is complete but there is still some stuff left to do.

Well, well, well.... This looks nice already. I can see that you're not quite done yet, but everything seems to work fine. :agree:

May I suggest a new thread for trying the new gizmos out?

/Claes

By all means do start one. I'm up to my nose editing templates.

Marc, looking good, quite a bit faster than it was a day + ago

Marc, looking good, quite a bit faster than it was a day + ago

Well, the code is entirely different. Different database structure, etc. They say it's faster. We'll soon see - but after noon tomorrow I'll also be on a different server so that will be the real test - especially during the week.

Claes, if you will start a new thread - think up a title - I'd appreciate it. but beware.... I've been playing with this for a while now and I'm still very confused. There are just so many changes it's amazing. That said, there is still alot for me to do, to figure out (like how to get boerdrs back) and such.

Not to mention the server change tomorrow... I have to shut this board down, back thye database up, gzip it, transfer to new server, un-gzip, pull into the database there.

Lucky I'm not still at Stolle. This couldn't have happened. Too much time...

I do really like all the new features and such.

Well even though I'm at home on dial up and there are only 6 people online at the moment, it seems to be smooth for the moment.

I thought energy would have weighed in by now - not to mention Al.... I guess energy is sleeping - unusual! :eek:

Al may be upset because he e-mailed me with a specific question and I asked him to post his question here so I don't have to answer the same question 20 times in a personal e-mail.

Please folks, don't e-mail me asking specific questions. Ask your questions in the forums.

I've turned the forums on for the day. I'm having trouble backing up the database and am delaying switching servers until Monday. Do expect some on and offs this weekend as I try to get the database backed up and to the new server.

As always, lots of problems. I can hardly wait for things to get back to 'normal'. :frust:

By all means do start one. I'm up to my nose editing templates.
Right Ho Sir... Coming up...

---X---
Claes, if you will start a new thread - think up a title - I'd appreciate it. but beware.... I've been playing with this for a while now and I'm still very confused. There are just so many changes it's amazing. That said, there is still alot for me to do, to figure out (like how to get boerdrs back) and such.---X---

Done.... It's in
Testing Ground (http://www.elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?postid=52428)

And hey.. I found a hiccup (Hic).. I can't see the colours in the colour menu... (They still work, though).

/Claes

I haven't seen that one. I'll check the bug report forums over at vB. The whole CSS thing is relatively new to me. I can't get the colors I want yet - even lost the table borders somehow.

I also want to remind everyone that I still have not gotten this database backed up - the backup keeps failing - and transferred to the new server. So - there will be some downtime yet this weekend.

Thanks for starting the thread, Claes. I appreciate it.

---X--- I can't get the colors I want yet - even lost the table borders somehow.
---X---Thanks for starting the thread, Claes. I appreciate it.

No worries... I've done my fair shar of beta testing (To some programmers dispair :vfunny: ), So I can just as well put that experience to some use here.

Now, the colours: I see the marker in the menu, it's just that I can't see any text in the colour scroll down menu. When I pick something at random, it does work. I get the impression that it may not be a bug, but probably just some colour setting? The same colour for both text and background maybe?

A similar problem with the borders, maybe? Or are the by any chance white or transparent?

/Claes

Well, there's a 'built in' style set. Since so many things changed it couldn't import all the junk but imported some. I really should go in and delete the attempted import and take the top (root) style and work on it. It's really weird.

Once I get this up and going on the new server I'll give you and Atul access to them to see what I'm talking about. I figure you're the only two who would be interested. Anyway, I gotta get back to the other server. I got about 3 hours sleep and really want to focus on this. I will probably close the forums this evening to see what I can do here.

Anyone here MySQL savvy? Like in the workings, not just the simple stuff?

Marc,

Even in the old software, the borders were not handled through CSS. The simple trick was to give a background color to the outermost table. For example in THIS page, if you just add bgcolor=red to the HTML code
&lt;table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"&gt;
( the second Table tag after &lt;a name="poststop"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; on the page) you'll see red color borders.

I haven't worked on MySQL, but I do have some little experience with MS Access/MS SQL Server & Oracle. I can try to help.

Atul

Go to the moderator's directory for info for you. I'll leave a msg there.

CAUTION: Probably about 9 pm my time this evening (or there abouts - and assuming I can get the other server sorted out) I will probably be shutting the forums down to try to back up the database again. This is tentative...

---X---

Once I get this up and going on the new server I'll give you and Atul access to them to see what I'm talking about. I figure you're the only two who would be interested. Anyway, I gotta get back to the other server. I got about 3 hours sleep and really want to focus on this. I will probably close the forums this evening to see what I can do here.

Anyone here MySQL savvy? Like in the workings, not just the simple stuff?

Er... I have noted that you seem to have been online constantly the last few days. Look, I know about focusing on getting software set up... (Been there, done that, even though 3 hours seems a bit excessive :ko: ;) ). Don't burn yourself out, ok?

As for MySQL: Not really, but I used to tinker a lot with ordinary SQL (whatever the difference may be) and still work a lot with MS Access.

/Claes

P.s. Heyyyy. You fixed the colours.. I see them now.

Hi Marc,

Will this feature be available in the new software? Used to find it pretty darn handy :D

Whoops! Guess I just answered my question - Sorry didn't notice the Temporary Buttons at the top of the page! :o :o :o

Er... I have noted that you seem to have been online constantly the last few days. Look, I know about focusing on getting software set up... (Been there, done that, even though 3 hours seems a bit excessive :ko: ;) ). Don't burn yourself out, ok?

As for MySQL: Not really, but I used to tinker a lot with ordinary SQL (whatever the difference may be) and still work a lot with MS Access.

/Claes

P.s. Heyyyy. You fixed the colours.. I see them now.
It would have been nice if it was just a software switch but it is also a server switch. That means moving cgi's and such and getting them up and running. It means changing a number of links. I've also been seeing MySQL go to sleep. In the forums a number of templates had to be changed.

Yes - I've been up quite a bit but I couldn't afford to have someone do it all for me. I catch a few hours here and there.

I think Swankhammer is akin to Nosmo and Tom Harris.....similar style. A shot of the universe may be exactly what's in order. IMHO

Marc,

Even in the old software, the borders were not handled through CSS. The simple trick was to give a background color to the outermost table. For example in THIS page, if you just add bgcolor=red to the HTML code
&lt;table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"&gt;
( the second Table tag after &lt;a name="poststop"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; on the page) you'll see red color borders.

I haven't worked on MySQL, but I do have some little experience with MS Access/MS SQL Server & Oracle. I can try to help.
I know, but when you look at how this is constructed, you have templates and phrase groups which cascade and can conflict - such as where a table is started on one template and is closed (if you will) on another. You found one error I coded in the header not long ago so you know what I mean. Unexpected consequences.

The problems with the green background in this 'style' magically went away last night when I replaced a center tag with a span tag in one segment of the header.

The program is a mix of xhtml, css and html.

I think Swankhammer is akin to Nosmo and Tom Harris.....similar style. A shot of the universe may be exactly what's in order. IMHO
And you mention this in this thread why? Pls start a new thread or e-mail me or whatever if you think there's a pretender here. You might want to put in the thread / post. But let's try to keep on topic in threads.

Cannot attach .XLS File ??

Got that one installed now. Are any others missing?

Got that one installed now. Are any others missing?
Thanks. Wish list could be very long...
ZIP ? PPT ?

I had not noticed many I had allowed before did not carry over in the upgrade import. Added zip and ppt. Is that all?

And you mention this in this thread why? Pls start a new thread or e-mail me or whatever if you think there's a pretender here. You might want to put in the thread / post. But let's try to keep on topic in threads.

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If you dwell in the past, the future is impossible to see"

Uhhhh! Maybe because this is posted in this thread? I was simply reading back and saw it? I just seem to rub you the wrong way. Maybe it's the root canal. No, I know better. :smokin:

Got that one installed now. Are any others missing?

Maybe the following:

.pps Powerpoint
.vsd Visio
.mdb Access

On the other hand it may be a good policy to limit the number of file extensions and ask us to use zip format as much as possible. What do you think?

/Claes

Uhhhh! Maybe because this is posted in this thread? I was simply reading back and saw it? I just seem to rub you the wrong way. Maybe it's the root canal. No, I know better. :smokin:
I looked back and didn't notice that post! Sorry!

Maybe the following:

.pps Powerpoint
.vsd Visio
.mdb Access

On the other hand it may be a good policy to limit the number of file extensions and ask us to use zip format as much as possible. What do you think?

/Claes

I don't mind ading types, but ZIP files make sense.

I can't find a mime type for Access. I'll add it when I do.

I looked back and didn't notice that post! Sorry!

When I think about it, it's history. I believe it was before the smeg hit the fan. Thanks for the understanding. I dun wan no trubbles :agree: :smokin: !

Neither do I. I'm just running a firmer hand on keeping things straight here. We ran pretty loose here for a while so I'm playing Mom and slapping hands here and there. I thought I looked through the thread but missed post #2. Sorry!

If I use my "Back" button to return to the main Forum page, I get a notice that you are updating the site. When I "refresh", the page shows as normal.

Okay, okay...with all my internet knowledge, I'm still stupid. I cleared my temporary files, and it seems to work now. Imagine that. :bonk:

Just noticed my 'Post Count' going down by 3 or 4 posts. Some setting change?

Last night around 3 AM here I closed for an hour and checked the database, did a dump and downloaded it here so I could play with the styles on the forums here on my Mac. I always rebuild forums, threads, post counts and such. I don't think I deleted any threads that would cause your post count to change, though. The biggie was when I disabled posts in each forum in the Odds and Ends 'category' from counting.

I'm not sure why it would change unless I moved a thread from a 'business' forum to Odds and Ends - and I don't remember doing that.

Marc

You have spelled 'Forums' as 'Froums' in the news headline.

Marc

You have spelled 'Forums' as 'Froums' in the news headline.
Not surprising. Fixed. Thanks!

Also my PM box says I have 1 unread message, but when I go into it I cant see any new messages.

Also my PM box says I have 1 unread message, but when I go into it I cant see any new messages.
Hmmm. My PM's are showing OK. Let me know if you can't find it and it keeps showing there's one you haven't read.

One person had that problem a year ago and it turned out they had it set to only show PMs in the last week or something. The person hadn't been here in a while. The PM was over a week old so it didn't show.

I can't get in to look at what you're seeing because I can't acess anyone's account unless I know their password which is encrypted. There's no way I know of to get someone's password. I can reset someone's password and then log in and see the account, but I wouldn't know what to change the password back to for the user to be able to login.

Is anyone else experiencing Personal Message (PM) problems?

Hmmm. My PM's are showing OK. Let me know if you can't find it and it keeps showing there's one you haven't read.

One person had that problem a year ago and it turned out they had it set to only show PMs in the last week or something. The person hadn't been here in a while. The PM was over a week old so it didn't show.

I can't get in to look at what you're seeing because I can't acess anyone's account unless I know their password which is encrypted. There's no way I know of to get someone's password. I can reset someone's password and then log in and see the account, but I wouldn't know what to change the password back to for the user to be able to login.

Is anyone else experiencing Personal Message (PM) problems?

No problem. I like the idea of being able to store 50 instead of 5 max. The return receipt function is nice. I vaguely remember, with the old software, having a situation like Martin's. I basically ignored it and it went away. I could have logged out and logged back on. But, that was the old version. Try logging on through a search engine, manually entering your user name and password and try it. Who knows? Just a thought. :rolleyes: :smokin:

Also my PM box says I have 1 unread message, but when I go into it I cant see any new messages.

It may be that you just didn't scroll down far enough. I fell into that trap myself at first... Have another look.

/Claes

I've seen this a few times.
First visit of the day (or return visit).
View posts since last visit.
Search page shows that a new reply has been posted recently.
Click down arrow to go to next new reply.
OOPS post was actually posted DAYS ago.

See pics for detailed example from 7:30 am Central 07/30/03

Remember, if a thread has a Poll and someone votes but does not leave a post, the date will show as the date of the vote - not the date of the last post in the thread.

Remember, if a thread has a Poll and someone votes but does not leave a post, the date will show as the date of the vote - not the date of the last post in the thread.

OK :bonk::frust:

Over the last two days I've noticed that the light bulbs (flashing to indicate unread messages) continue to indicate unread messages even after I've read ALL of the messages. Only after I log out of the Cove and log back in do they indicate no unread messages (no longer flashing/dark).

Anyone else experiencing this problem?

Marc,

I've noticed since yesterday that in the "Searched for" border (which is in purple (?)) the lettering detail is black. Maybe it's my colorblindedness but I have to strain to see anything in the border. I haven't seen any other posts regarding this so maybe it's me (and my "advanced" age :rolleyes: ).

Please don't ask me any of the technical stuff you, Atul, and some others talk about because I won't be able to give you an answer. :ko:

Bill

Sorry Marc, :bonk:

I just saw a different thread and have now switched to Atul's style. Muuuuch easier to see.

Bill

Atul, we can increase font size for vision issues once the vB 'GM' is released. I think this is a significant aspect of the forums to address through a style.

If you work on the color - contrast issue, we can make s child style after the GM release which has larger fonts as well. I'd bet this would be unique to the forums here!

Thanks for pointing this issue out, Bill!

Over the last two days I've noticed that the light bulbs (flashing to indicate unread messages) continue to indicate unread messages even after I've read ALL of the messages. Only after I log out of the Cove and log back in do they indicate no unread messages (no longer flashing/dark).

I bounce in and out several times a day, using two different servers. I noticed that if I leave and come back, say within 5 minutes, the bulbs may be lit or not. Dave, just stay away longer! :vfunny: :agree:

Just to remind - the 'timeout' was set 18+ months ago at 20 minutes. If you come in with another 'cookie' this could confuse things.

It's kinda weird because you can come in to 'elsmar.com or '16949.com' or 'qs9000.com'. Let's say you come to the site with 'elsmar.com'. Then if you're reading through a thread and there is a link to such and such a thread at 16949.com, it may ask you to log in again as the original cookie was for Elsmar.com and now 16949.com is being called. Maybe Atul or someone else knows of a way to solve this inconsistency. I'd love to know how short of rejecting calls to 16949.com and qs9000.com - both of which are in many search engines and 'links' from other sites.

Moderators can help if, when they see a link with qs9000.com or 16949.com, they will take a minute and Edit the thread and correct the link (or links as sometinmes there's a nested link in a vB Code - the URL code), I would appreciate it.

I'm not sure if that's what is happening, but it may be a factor.

Cookie Fun: 101

For clarification purposes: Up to this week, I have logged in to the forums noted flashing light bulbs, read the newest messages, went BACK to the main Forums page (index) and noted that the light bulb for the specific forum I had just been in was now dark (I believed that this was an indication that I had read ALL of the previously "unread" postings).

Now I see the flashing bulb, go into the forum, read the latest postings (or even ALL of them), go BACK to the index (main Forum page), and still get a flashing buld indicator.

This is NOT a major issue with me. I just thought that you should know that something had changed.

Hmmmm. I've been playing with a couple of templates and Atul and I have both been playing with colours, but nothing that should have affected the light bulbs.

What are some of you other folks seeing?

I almost always come in at 'Posts in last 24 Hours' and rarely even notice what the lightbulbs are doing. I'm aware of them more with respect to their showing who is online in the places they're used for that like at the bottom of each post in a thread. I'd like to get different icons for the two things now that I think of it. When I first started using this software that dual use of that icon confused me.

It's kinda weird because you can come in to 'elsmar.com or '16949.com' or 'qs9000.com'.
Marc,
In my favorites file, I have a shortcut to the 16949.com, and that is how/where I log into. When I get mail to tell my of a message, I am directed to elsmar.com via link. When I link, I am told I am not logged in. Is this because messages are on elsmar, and I log in on 16949?

You can count on me to help correct links.

CarolX

Marc,
In my favorites file, I have a shortcut to the 16949.com, and that is how/where I log into. When I get mail to tell my of a message, I am directed to elsmar.com via link. When I link, I am told I am not logged in. Is this because messages are on elsmar, and I log in on 16949?
Yes. Change any 'bookmarks' or such in your browser to Elsmar.com and that will fix it.

Back in January 1996 the site opened as qs9000.com. Along about 1998 or 1999 I took 16949.com as it was evident then qs9000 was not long for the world. As things progressed I wanted a domain name that was distinct and that I wouldn't have to change. I chose Elsmar because I grew up at 55 Elsmar Avenue (it wasn't really an avenue - just a short, dead end side street) in Fort Thomas, KY. One heck of a nice 1950's - 60's childhood with a lot of really good memories. The days of 'the milk man' and 'the green grocer' truck which came about every week. A time of summer camps and the dreams of adolescents... A much slower time.

Weird how one comes up with names and such...

Marc,
Did you have the guy that sharpened knifes and such come down the street? Or the fruit and vegetable guy pushing his cart? That was once downtown Detroit!

Ft. Thomas was a 'bedroom' community just across the river from Cincinnati, OH. No knife people and it was all trucks of one sort or another. 'Our' fruit and vegetable guy drove a big 'UPS' type truck with sliding doors on each side, a scale hanging in the front, and then lots and lots of fruits and vegetables.

Cincinnati had Findley Square where vendors of all types of stuff gathered from fruits and veggies to meats, fish - you name it. That was Cincinnati's 'original' market place with the carts and such.

I have relatives in Germantown and we use to visit Cinncy every year. I always got the "Big Red Machine" rubbed in my face!

Hmmmm. I've been playing with a couple of templates and Atul and I have both been playing with colours, but nothing that should have affected the light bulbs.

What are some of you other folks seeing?

I almost always come in at 'Posts in last 24 Hours' and rarely even notice what the lightbulbs are doing. I'm aware of them more with respect to their showing who is online in the places they're used for that like at the bottom of each post in a thread. I'd like to get different icons for the two things now that I think of it. When I first started using this software that dual use of that icon confused me.

FYI, not a big problem, and maybe just related to beta version....but:
I come in on the forums home page, when I click to go to new posts and then access them the little "envelopes" behave in strange ways. It used to be that I would read a new post, go back to the "new posts" list and the envelope for the one I just visited would be closed. Now, some of them are closed when I get to the new posts, some of them close after I visit a new post, and some of the never close at all. (I can usually remember where I've been, but I'm getting older and sometimes I forget :biglaugh:)

Also, it seems that my number of posts is kinda on the low side???? I thought I was where I'm shown now about a year ago? Again, no big deal, I am here to learn and maybe help someone, it just seemed strange all of a sudden.

Thanks for all you do, we may not always agree on politics, but you are the bomb when it comes to being the cheech wizard!

The code changes between the versions is way beyond me so far. I haven't watched what the 'envelopes' are doing lately but I'll try to look more closely. As I understand it, once you read a thread it is supposed to be marked read - which should change the envelope. Envelopes have not played much of a part of things for me - just really rarely noticed them as I do a 'Last 24 Hours' listing 9 times out of 10.

As far as posts goes, nothing there should have changed recently. But - anyone who posts a lot in the 'Coffee Break' forum should know that some time back last winter or fall I 'disconnected' those from counting towards Total Posts. I did that because there were a lot of people with lots of posts which were mostly in the Coffee Break threads. My position was, and is, to focus on the 'business' forums.

Recently, however, I haven't noticed any post count changes and I haven't done anything which should have changed post counts. I rarely pay attention to my post count personally so I probably wouldn't notice if it did go down, but there is no reason for it to.

I do rebuild threads and forums at least once a week, but that shouldn't affect anyone's post counts. I used to rebuild them weekly as well, but I stopped doing that a month or so ago as Atul noticed a count drop which was probably due to my pruning several threads.

I have relatives in Germantown and we use to visit Cinncy every year. I always got the "Big Red Machine" rubbed in my face!
I don't think it has been a 'Big Red Machine' for years. But I don't pay any attention to baseball any more. Haven't been to a game or even watched one on TV for years.

After reviewing the server logs, the shutdown of http services on the site last Wednesday morning was definitely from a cron job failure. The job is being evaluated to try to determine why it crashed, but it appears it ran at a time when site traffic was high and failed to restart Apache because the server hit it's maximum connection limit.

Marc,

What is a cron job ?

Just curious.

Carol

There are 'jobs' a server does on a routine basis. There are 'cron' and 'crontab' services. These run 'jobs' such as rotating server logs, backups, or whatever you want. See:

http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html

The job which failed was one set to run 4 times a day which takes the Apache logs, analyzes them, puts them in a database and starts a new log. It was set to run 4x a day because the 'main' Apache log file typically exceeds 30 megabytes every 24 hours. The idea was to reduce the size of the file it has to analyze each time.

The server log - another log which monitors general server actions - said the job tried to run but was shut down because of a 'too many connections' error - it couldn't reconnect. The job should not have died, but rather should have queued. As far as I can tell, it shouldn't have been affected by the number of connections, but that's something else I have to look at.

Now I have to look closer at a number of things including a number of server settings and when I set the job to run.

Marc,

Today, I noticed that "the last time you visited" is not functioning. As I enter and leave the Forums, several times a day, the clock shows that I haven't been here since yesterday. Is it a cookie thing?

Marc,

Today, I noticed that "the last time you visited" is not functioning. As I enter and leave the Forums, several times a day, the clock shows that I haven't been here since yesterday. Is it a cookie thing?

Perhaps it is a subtile hint type of thing?

Perhaps it is a subtile hint type of thing?

Thanks for the assistance. As usual you're a great help. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure. It appears to be working for me and no one else is complaining, so at his point I would recommend you clean out your browser cache and dump any cookies related to the site. Let me know if that doesn't fix it. Also try Logging Out of the forums and then Logging Back In.

I wonder why I didn't fare so well in the "Poster of the Year"? :confused: :bonk:

Tried to post a reply to the Competition thread and got this error message

(Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /usr/local/apache/htdocs/Forums/includes/functions.php on line 2798

Did not seem to be on my end as I still had net access...

It's just saying a script took too long to execute and exited. Have you seen it before? Has anyone else?

It's a server issue and I'm betting a mySQL call put mySQL into 'vsleep'. Pretty rare but does happen. I've tried lots of stuff and none has eliminated it. When I verify and consolidate the database it takes close to 10 minutes before the mySQL daemon goes back to 'poll'. I only do that once or twice a week typically very late at night.

I'm not sure. It appears to be working for me and no one else is complaining, so at his point I would recommend you clean out your browser cache and dump any cookies related to the site. Let me know if that doesn't fix it. Also try Logging Out of the forums and then Logging Back In.

Did that before I saw this and it works just fine now. Thanks. :)

Marc,

Today, I noticed that "the last time you visited" is not functioning. As I enter and leave the Forums, several times a day, the clock shows that I haven't been here since yesterday. Is it a cookie thing?Perhaps it is a subtile hint type of thing?
You're implying energy is in a time warp? I thought that was a given! :rolleyes:

You're implying energy is in a time warp? I thought that was a given!

Meet out back, Mr. Mayor. :mad: :smokin:

Meet out back, Mr. Mayor. :mad: :smokin:
The Mayor is Busy right now...

Oh, and I forgot this. Should have posted it when you were appointed...

Egads...You Go Mel. Good thing it's Friday and most of these "Q" professionals have already headed for the door. She wasn't one them "wimmin" that helped me out at the Elsmar Corral. Or maybe.....:)

It's just saying a script took too long to execute and exited. Have you seen it before? Has anyone else?

It's a server issue and I'm betting a mySQL call put mySQL into 'vsleep'. Pretty rare but does happen. I've tried lots of stuff and none has eliminated it. When I verify and consolidate the database it takes close to 10 minutes before the mySQL daemon goes back to 'poll'. I only do that once or twice a week typically very late at night.

I've seen this '30 seconds' message a couple of times - when using Forum search. I thought my search terms were wrong - the query returned too many records and got timed out. Just tried with some different search words and it worked.

The Mayor is Busy right now...

Might be time to go into politics! :eek:

I've seen this '30 seconds' message a couple of times - when using Forum search. I thought my search terms were wrong - the query returned too many records and got timed out. Just tried with some different search words and it worked.
Searches are limited to 1 every 30 seconds to keep someone from 'flooding'. It's a setting I can alter. The standard is 45 seconds. I cut it to 30. The dialog box should be telling you that there's a 30 second restriction on searches.

Searches are limited to 1 every 30 seconds to keep someone from 'flooding'. It's a setting I can alter. The standard is 45 seconds. I cut it to 30. The dialog box should be telling you that there's a 30 second restriction on searches.

No it wasn't that. The message I got was very similar to the one Mike reported.
Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /usr/local/apache/htdocs/Forums/includes/functions.php on line 2798

I thought my net connection was slow at that time and it was taking more time to pass back the form data - causing the timeout.

I'll try it again, and let you know the exact message.

I'm not sure where to put this, but how come when I post multiple quotes, it always indents each quote futher that the one before? Is that desired?

I'm not sure where to put this, but how come when I post multiple quotes, it always indents each quote futher that the one before? Is that desired?

Try using 5 quotes. Do you think they would run off the page? :vfunny: On the same topic, how come some people post the same thing twice and don't give that a thought? :vfunny:

how come some people post the same thing twice and don't give that a thought?

If you'll notice there is a subtile difference between the two (spelling of "out"). I thought I hit "cancel" in time to stop it, but did not. Had I known I was too late, I would have just edited the post. So there!

And that still doesn't answer my question. Is that all you can do is nitpick my writing, without adding any revelance? If you have constrctive to say, say it. Otherwise go back to the donut shop Sheriff. :vfunny:

Tried to post a reply to the Competition thread and got this error message

(Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /usr/local/apache/htdocs/Forums/includes/functions.php on line 2798

Did not seem to be on my end as I still had net access...

I just now got the same error message when I tried to post a reply. I tried again only a couple of seconds after receiving the message with the exact same message and it posted no problem. :confused:

I'm not sure where to put this, but how come when I post multiple quotes, it always indents each quote futher that the one before? Is that desired?
Well, this first... I don't know. They made a big switch so that both threaded and linear views are supported. The issue come into play in how they addressed the threading issue. How this fits in with the new quoting system - I do not know. I noticed that if you put in a name each time it keeps indenting - but I don't know what it's doing.

My first assumption is the software is designed to 'withstand' abuse and idiots like me. I haven't heard of it breaking by putting in multiple quotes, so I guess it's not an issue. If energy hasn't tried it yet to see if it 'breaks', I'm sure he will soon.

Is it desired? Asthetics are at play here...

When I quote multiple lines from the same person I just delete the "=username" after the word 'quote' on all but the first quote.

When I cite multiple people I leave the names in and it indents - which I assume not to me an issue.

I just now got the same error message when I tried to post a reply. I tried again only a couple of seconds after receiving the message with the exact same message and it posted no problem. :confused:
I'll look into the "(Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /usr/local/apache/htdocs/Forums/includes/functions.php on line 2798" issue this week. I really *think* it's a MySQL setting, but I'm not sure. I noticed again this morning the MySQL daemon went into vsleep for almost 4 minutes. There were 88 users (some were spiders) online at the time. If it sleeps, nothing will happen as http requests stack waiting for their sql query to be 'served'.

I have never seen this before changing to this server. And again, I think it's part of the vsleep issue, but I'm not sure.

Line 2798 is the second of the following:// replace links (and quotes if specified) from message
$message = preg_replace($find, $replace, $message);So it's doing a replacement function.

Still investigating...

Otherwise go back to the donut shop Sheriff. :vfunny:
Sheriff gets backup... Please Don't Abuse Our Sheriff! We never know when we may need him!

No it wasn't that. The message I got was very similar to the one Mike reported.
I'm considering http://www.venturesonline.com if things don't get better - especially this vsleep issue. They host the vB site so any problems should be easily addressed.

Check this:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76094

Yeah - I'll add a comment there soon but the fix wasn't for the issue here. That's similar to the issue I had back when I did the 2.2.9 --> 3.0.0 beta 3 switch and indexing was failing. It wasn't doing a needed character 'fix' if I remember correctly.

I'm considering http://www.venturesonline.com if things don't get better - especially this vsleep issue. They host the vB site so any problems should be easily addressed.

Not for nothing, but as often as I come here and post, I only saw that message once. It was when I didn't remove some emoticons from a post that I was quoting. It said to go back and remove them. When I did that I got the message. Went right back in, did what I had to do with no repeats since then. FYI :bigwave:

My concern is the future I'd like to get away from Verio for several reasons - that's not the only one. But it adds to the reasons.

Here's a quirky one I never saw before.

I have my preference set to show new post from the last 10 days. I went to the Nonconformance/CA board....from the main page it showed Bob M. was the last poster 1 week ago. After getting to the board, I got a message showing no new post in the last 10 days?

Does it just plop anything over 7 days into the "1 week ago" catergory?

CarolX

I assume the thread had a poll. Many people will vote on a poll but not post to the thread. When someone votes on a poll but doesn't 'post' to the thread, the new vote causes the thread to update anyway.

I assume the thread had a poll. Many people will vote on a poll but not post to the thread. When someone votes on a poll but doesn't 'post' to the thread, the new vote causes the thread to update anyway.

Nope, no poll in there...I knew the system did that with the polls. Just kinda freaky.

CX

Does it just plop anything over 7 days into the "1 week ago" catergory?
I don't know what the cutoff for the '1 week' is. I changed the display option. See if this helps.

That board shows last post was August 15th, which fall outside of my "10 day" preference setting. Must just throw anything over 7 days into the "1 week" catergory.

Where are you setting a preference for 10 days?

Marc,
When tweaking the system in response to CarolX's issue/concern did you change the way times are displayed for posts?

Search page use to say stuff like
Posted: 21 min ago, 2 hours ago, etc.
Now its says TODAY at 7:00am

It not a big deal, just wondering if the change was intentional or even realized...

I can set it to 1 of three different options. 'Detailed' is what it was set at. That's with the 1 week ago, 1 minute ago, etc. The second option they label as 'relative' where Today and Yesterday are used but all else are dates. Then there is the 'normal' setting where everything is date only (well, time is always there). Yes, the switch was intentional.

Right now it's set to 'relative' but I may switch back to 'detailed' because I like it. But I want to run it this way for a day or two just to see what happens.

Marc,
When tweaking the system in response to CarolX's issue/concern did you change the way times are displayed for posts?

Search page use to say stuff like
Posted: 21 min ago, 2 hours ago, etc.
Now its says TODAY at 7:00am

It not a big deal, just wondering if the change was intentional or even realized...

Bob...I pop in and out of here so often that the clock can't up with me. As I soon as I read a new post or post my own, I leave and get back to work. I may come back 15 minutes later and it shows I last visited 4 hours ago. No biggee. If I stay out for, lets say for 2 or 3 hours, it's accurate. Don't know why. I simply ignore it now. When I select read new posts since last visit, it seems to be okay. ;)

Where are you setting a preference for 10 days?

In my user CP there is the line
"Default thread view age"
and I have it set to 10 days

CarolX

Ah. OK.

Did anyone else experience a hiccup about 9:10 AM EST today? For about 30 min. I was unable to view a post or make a post but could access the home page. Better now. Strange.

Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /usr/local/apache/htdocs/Forums/includes/functions.php on line 2798

Happened at 10:31CST, 08/28/03

Did anyone else experience a hiccup about 9:10 AM EST today? For about 30 min. I was unable to view a post or make a post but could access the home page. Better now. Strange.

Yep, at first I thought it was just me, then I noticed it mentioned a database error, which made me think the Marc pulled the plug. You know, I think energy has warned him about letting the extension cord wrap around the legs of Marc's LazyBoy!

Hey, I've gotten a couple more of the "database error" messages. Perhaps Marc's Mac got a cold?

-----------------

Added

Here is the message:

"There seems to have been a slight problem with the database.
Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser.

An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also contact if the problem persists.

We apologise for any inconvenience."

This website is now running dead slow on my home PC.

I know its probably me, but I thought I would post this comment to see if I was not alone.

It's running fast here, but I do have to change and am doing pricing and such again - but for a dedicated server.

Last Sunday evening I did 'upgrade' the server account I have with Verio to try to solve some problems, but it hasn't helped. The upgrade is costing me an extra US$150 a month. I plan to move to a dedicated server sometime in October. Possibly sooner, but it takes me 5 to 10 days to configure the server, move everything, get the domain name transferred and for the new IP to miigrate to all the DNS servers.

It's running fast here, but I do have to change and am doing pricing and such again - but for a dedicated server.

Last Sunday evening I did 'upgrade' the server account I have with Verio to try to solve some problems, but it hasn't helped. The upgrade is costing me an extra US$150 a month. I plan to move to a dedicated server sometime in October. Possibly sooner, but it takes me 5 to 10 days to configure the server, move everything, get the domain name transferred and for the new IP to miigrate to all the DNS servers.

Sounds like you could/should run it off your OWN server. You seem to have learned alot about running this place and protecting your own computers.

Oh course I have no idea how hard/expensive it is to run a server out of your own house...

*shrug* :confused:

I'd love to. But then we get into getting a T1 line at US$1000 plus a month. And what happens if the server dies and I'm out of town?

A managed server farm makes the most sense, but you have no idea how much I'd like to buy a Mac OS X Server and do the lot from here. I did check for costs of a partial T1.

While there was an expected initial surge of folks contributing when I started charging, I see maybe one new contributor a week now. And even that now tends to be a US$10 contribution of which I see about 8 bucks. No way can I afford to commit to an additional US$12,000 plus a year on top of what it is already costing.

Are you saying its not me then ?

I have done all sorts on my PC to try and correct this, defragmenting, reinstalling windows and IE, etc.

It seems to work OK at my work PC, which is Windows 2000.

Does this mean I have to give up good old Windows 98 ?

Hope that doesnt mean I have to give up good old Office 97 !!

I have also just spent the last hour and a half downloading and installing Internet Explorer version 6 - still no joy !

Are you saying its not me then ?

I have done all sorts on my PC to try and correct this, defragmenting, reinstalling windows and IE, etc.

It seems to work OK at my work PC, which is Windows 2000.

Does this mean I have to give up good old Windows 98 ?

Hope that doesnt mean I have to give up good old Office 97 !!

I have also just spent the last hour and a half downloading and installing Internet Explorer version 6 - still no joy !

M,

At home I have what you have, on my PC. Windows 98-Office 2000, Explorer verion 6.0. I do full maintenance once a week. I only use that in the evening when I need a fix. I come here. It's not that bad. With the time difference, you should do most of your reading and posting before 7Am EST. Now, at work, I have DSL, WindowsXP and it's wicked fast. Still, there are times when there is a lot of traffic on the site, I have to "refresh" because my staus bar moves slowly. Other times, It's like lightening. I wouldn't trash anything. make a sandwich while lagging on. It's always worth the wait! :agree: :smokin:

M,

At home I have what you have, on my PC. Windows 98-Office 2000, Explorer verion 6.0. I do full maintenance once a week. I only use that in the evening when I need a fix. I come here. It's not that bad. With the time difference, you should do most of your reading and posting before 7Am EST. Now, at work, I have DSL, WindowsXP and it's wicked fast. Still, there are times when there is a lot of traffic on the site, I have to "refresh" because my staus bar moves slowly. Other times, It's like lightening. I wouldn't trash anything. make a sandwich while lagging on. It's always worth the wait! :agree: :smokin:

At home I run a 1.3GHz lightening, top of the line (four years ago), on a cable modem. Speed isn't an issue unless I try to read/post and play Glactic Defender at the same time. Last night, I lost three destroyer frigates thanks to you energy! :mad:

I have been trying to reply to a post and I kept getting the "line 279" 30 second timeout error. I have rebuilt the database and checked everything I can.

This is much as test as anything else. I cannot post to a specific thread, so I'm trying a different thread.

Part of the problem in all this is that I have to consider I'm running Beta software. However, up until recently things have been 'tolerable'. Considering I just 'upgraded' my 'virtural server' account, I was not at all expecting these problems.

I have an e-mail (contract) to the same company which hosts vBulletin's forums for a quote on a dedicated server. If they and I can agree on a reasonably priced package, next week I will be switching to a dedicated server.

More details as they become available - and hoping this post doesn't 'error out'.

I have been trying to reply to a post and I kept getting the "line 279" 30 second timeout error.

I've had that once or twice, but then it worked the next time I tried it, so I figured it was connection related. Most of the time however, I have to say that this beta product performs admirably.

/Claes

Ok Folks...Is this a Cove issue...or did I not suceed in cleaning out my system...


The issue - yesterday I clicked when I shouldn't have and I got one of those nasty spyware/adware "Boost your speed" bs thing on my system....took me a helf an hour to get it all cleared out...but alas, I think I missed something.

Any time I try to go to reply...as I am doing...it takes forever for the page to fully display. When it does, I see this message in the tool bar
editor initialized for internet explorer in .61 seconds
I don't like it....can anybody help.

Thanks,
Carol

Did you try Ad-Aware from lavasoft?

Carol,

I think this might be a cove issue and related to the new software. I get the same message when I go to reply as well.

Did you try Ad-Aware from lavasoft?

I had a pop-up hit when going to the main page. I used that software, and found about 15 billion unauthorized "things". Ad-Aware cleaned them up, and I've had no problem since. I think this was discussed earlier in this thread.

Did you try Ad-Aware from lavasoft?:biglaugh::vfunny:

I've been using that one for about 2 years now....used it to clean out all the junk from my mis-click.


Richard,
Thanks...I just realized I didn't have this issue until today...and late yesterday I downloaded the latest MickeySoft Patch.....whoo whoo whoo...gotta love that good ole boy Billy Bob Gates.

Carol

CX,
Mine seems to be working OK and we are required to keep the MS OS (98) updated. Have you updated the Ad Aware reference file recently? I made the same kind of misclick last week. :bonk: If Bob_M had not suggested Ad Aware I would have never got my system cleaned out (THANK YOU BOB!) :bigwave: . However, there was a BS3.DLL file loaded on my PC and being run on startup (run MSCONFIG to see what's in there) and Ad Aware did not detect it. It reinstalled the whole mess every time I rebooted. I couldn't use IE due to all the hijacks and popups. I booted in safe mode, deleted BS3.DLL, then removed the RUNDLL from my startup. Sent the file to Lavasoft and 2 days later their updated reference file detected the little b*****d on the floppy disk where I had manually quarantined it as well as a previously undetected registry key. :smokin:

Carol,

I think this might be a cove issue and related to the new software. I get the same message when I go to reply as well.

Is this "Quick Reply"? "reply with Quote"? I haven't seen a "Reply" button. Where is it? Huh? :bonk:

Is this "Quick Reply"? "reply with Quote"? I haven't seen a "Reply" button. Where is it? Huh? :bonk:
I've seen it on any reply. Whether I hit the 'reply with quote' button or th 'post reply' button

Let me try again. I want to reply without the quote. But, I also want to take full advantage of the emoticons because sometimes they are necessary to tone down what may appear to be harsh response. The way I do it now is to post "Quick Reply". Then, I immediately go to "edit post" to get the emoticon option. Is there a plain "Reply" function like the old software had. I think it's silly to have to "Quote" all the time to reply. Clearer?

I've seen it on any reply. Whether I hit the 'reply with quote' button or th 'post reply' button

Thanks Richard. I see it now on your attachment. After all these months, I find out today?? :bonk: :bonk:

Let me try again. I want to reply without the quote. But, I also want to take full advantage of the emoticons because sometimes they are necessary to tone down what may appear to be harsh response. The way I do it now is to post "Quick Reply". Then, I immediately go to "edit post" to get the emoticon option. Is there a plain "Reply" function like the old software had. I think it's silly to have to "Quote" all the time to reply. Clearer?
Usually I press the 'Post Reply' button near the bottom of the page (under all the posts) unless I want to quote.

Thanks Richard. I see it now on your attachment. After all these months, I find out today??
Sounds like you're having a bad week. That's twice now that I've 'got you' :vfunny:

Big E,
I have a button that says "Post Reply" in a little toolbox between the last post and the Quick Reply toolbox.

You'll see I edited my previous post to thank you. I never scrolled down far enough when I wanted to reply to a post because I'm so charged with emotion that I just want to start slinging it. ;) This was done with the Reply button with no unusual messages. :agree:

Let me try again. I want to reply without the quote. But, I also want to take full advantage of the emoticons because sometimes they are necessary to tone down what may appear to be harsh response. The way I do it now is to post "Quick Reply". Then, I immediately go to "edit post" to get the emoticon option. Is there a plain "Reply" function like the old software had. I think it's silly to have to "Quote" all the time to reply. Clearer?

Energy,

You have got to get those tired old eyes of your examined. At the top and bottom of each page (preceding and following the thread) you should see (that is once you clean them eyeballs) a little blue "button" that's labeled POST REPLY(just to the right of the "New Thread" button). :biglaugh: :bigwave:

Big E,
I have a button that says "Post Reply" in a little toolbox between the last post and the Quick Reply toolbox.

Post a pic. Use print screen if you have to. Maybe that's a shortcut! ;)

Energy,

You have got to get those tired old eyes of your examined. At the top and bottom of each page (preceding and following the thread) you should see (that is once you clean them eyeballs) a little blue "button" that's labeled POST REPLY(just to the right of the "New Thread" button). :biglaugh:

How about Icy's response? That sounds different. No? leave my tired eyes alone, 4 eyes. :agree:

Sheriff,
It's the same one as D2 is talking about. I cain't figger out how to "insert image" so it's here as an attachment.

Ok, I cain't figger out how to reattaich an attaichment. OK, haid to derleet an then reattaich. Now looky here!

CX,
Mine seems to be working OK and we are required to keep the MS OS (98) updated. Have you updated the Ad Aware reference file recently? I made the same kind of misclick last week. :bonk: If Bob_M had not suggested Ad Aware I would have never got my system cleaned out (THANK YOU BOB!) :bigwave: . However, there was a BS3.DLL file loaded on my PC and being run on startup (run MSCONFIG to see what's in there) and Ad Aware did not detect it. It reinstalled the whole mess every time I rebooted. I couldn't use IE due to all the hijacks and popups. I booted in safe mode, deleted BS3.DLL, then removed the RUNDLL from my startup. Sent the file to Lavasoft and 2 days later their updated reference file detected the little b*****d on the floppy disk where I had manually quarantined it as well as a previously undetected registry key. :smokin:

Ice,
Updated Ad-Aware files yesterday, rechecked again today...still gots same problem, looked for the .DLL, don't got it...
Makes me nuts having to wait - impatience is an issue for me - we are on a dedicated T1 line that is fast as lighting...not use to waiting for anything...LOL
Thanks again,
CX

Is there a plain "Reply" function like the old software had. I think it's silly to have to "Quote" all the time to reply. Clearer?
Yep. You have plain old Post reply buttons at the top and bottom of the page.

/Claes

Usually I press the 'Post Reply' button near the bottom of the page (under all the posts) unless I want to quote.


Sounds like you're having a bad week. That's twice now that I've 'got you' images/smilies/laugh-ha-ha.gif You can also use the 'Quote' button on the post and then just delete the quote and enter your text. Or use the 'Quick Reply' button on each post and after you type a few words there's a box there that says something like 'Go Advanced' or something.

This has more to do with those who use the 'Threaded' mode - it links your reply to a specific post.

I *think* the Reply button - the big one - links your new post to the last post in the thread.

You got it Marc. I always hit "post reply" unless I'm quoting and I get linked to the last post in the thread. Does anyone here use other than the "Linear" mode? Much like the Sheriff, I can't scroll back and forth fast enough in "Threaded".

I don't like threaded very much - at least the way it is set out here. But if it's done well it can be nice because you can see all the branches from each post and such. Part of the problem here is vB didn't have threaded until the beta release so all the pre-v3 threads are all linear anyway.

But many people do like threaded mode - or did at one time. I haven't seen any recent discussion on the pros and cons of each. Threaded was an early 'standard' which arose out of the way News Group (NG) worked. Some people hate threaded mode because one can't print out a total thread in threaded mode. It was an early complaint people made to me back in the WWWBoard setting - see http://elsmar.com/old_forum.html . One had to print out each post one at a time. That was when I moved to UltimateBB - a linear model.

For moderators the threaded aspect makes doing things like splitting threads more difficult because typically they're in linear mode and when they go to split the thread it shows as threaded so the posts they may want to move aren't in the same order as they expect.

I normally use the linear view - oldest first. But I do try to use the 'quick reply' on a post or the 'quote' on a post to link my reply to the specific post I'm replying to. I rarely use the 'big' reply button myself.

Just some thoughts.

You got it Marc. I always hit "post reply" unless I'm quoting and I get linked to the last post in the thread. I hadn't really looked to see which post the 'Big' reply button would tie the reply to because I rarely look at a forum in the threaded mode. Last post in the thread, eh? OK - that settles that!

I just noticed something: I followed a link to the SoPK Challenge thread from the How do we promote creativity? (http://www.elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=6953) and tried to open the zipped map there. I was then told I needed to to log in, though I was still logged in in the window containing the Creativity thread. No big deal though...

/Claes

I haven't been receiving any forum update emails since last night. Is something broken with the notification system, or is it just me? I haven't had trouble receiving emails from anywhere else, so I don't think it's on my end...


Claes - was the link to the same url that you were already logged in at (i.e. elsmar.com vs. 16949.com)?

Nothing broken that I know of. Are any of the rest of you folks not receiving notifications?

I haven't been receiving any e-mail notifications either.

Never mind.....just got an e-mail

My emails just started coming again too. :confused:

Claes - was the link to the same url that you were already logged in at (i.e. elsmar.com vs. 16949.com)?
Doh! :bonk:Now why didn't I think of that? You are absolutley right of course, it wasn't... ...It is now, though. Thank's howste.

/Claes

I'm not sure where to put this, but how come when I post multiple quotes, it always indents each quote futher that the one before? Is that desired? Well, this first... I don't know. They made a big switch so that both threaded and linear views are supported. The issue come into play in how they addressed the threading issue. How this fits in with the new quoting system - I do not know. I noticed that if you put in a name each time it keeps indenting - but I don't know what it's doing.
I corrected the Custom BB Code for 'Quote with username'. Multiple quotes should now indent correctly.

I corrected the Custom BB Code for 'Quote with username'. Multiple quotes should now indent correctly.
I can verify that. They do. Thank's Atul.

/Claes

I corrected the Custom BB Code for 'Quote with username'. Multiple quotes should now indent correctly. Darn - Now I have to look at that. What did you change?

Darn - Now I have to look at that. What did you change?
Oh, nothing much! Just completed the blockquote tag...< /blockquote > was missing.

In the Quote With Username custom code? Wow. I set that up way back when I first switched to the beta. Hadn't looked at it since.

Marc,

energy and I had an issue with PM. I sent him one yesterday afternoon. He got e-mail notification on it. When he went to retrieve, it was not there. I check my "Sent Items" folder and it is not there.

PM title was "Wild Bill at it again"

(now all of you get your minds out of the gutter LOL :biglaugh:)

Carol

Marc,

energy and I had an issue with PM. I sent him one yesterday afternoon. He got e-mail notification on it. When he went to retrieve, it was not there. I check my "Sent Items" folder and it is not there.

PM title was "Wild Bill at it again"

(now all of you get your minds out of the gutter LOL :biglaugh:)

Carol

I believe I know what it was about and I hope we have taken the necessary steps to correct it. I didn't attempt to read the message on my Internet Providers mail list. I didn't want to log on to the Cove at that time. If I had opened it there, it takes me directly to the Cove. I just expected it to pop up when I did drop in. Send me another one. I won't get my mind out of the gutter until then. ;)

Sure seems sloooowwww these last two days. I get to the site quickly enough but clicking to open threads/posts seems to take forever (comparing to past)

Bill

energy and I had an issue with PM. I sent him one yesterday afternoon. He got e-mail notification on it. When he went to retrieve, it was not there. I check my "Sent Items" folder and it is not there. Energy should know where to look so I'm assuming that's not the issue.

I haven't had any database error e-mails.

I can't check personal messages so the title doesn't help. That is to say, I can't access any personal messages between senders except when one of them is me. I can't, for example, look and see what is in energy's (or any user's) private messages / mailbox. This has been a complaint by some to the software folks, but is balanced by the others who feel even the people running the board should not be able to 'violate' the privacy of any users.

I remember someone bringing this issue up once before and it turned out they were looking in the wrong screen or something. I've sent and received a number recently without a problem.

Do you remember the time of day you sent it?

Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Sure seems sloooowwww these last two days. I get to the site quickly enough but clicking to open threads/posts seems to take forever (comparing to past) I've put off changing servers for a while, but I'm not sure that's a problem with regard to this. My main issue has been doing database maintenance.

The board has been running OK for me. Possibly just transient network slowdowns.

Are you familiar with how to do a traceroute?

The board has been running OK for me. Possibly just transient network slowdowns.
Are you familiar with how to do a traceroute?

As I've said before, with DSL there are no problems with logging on and switching between topics. Very fast. The only problem I have with having to wait is when I jump to "Who's on Line". I notice that it is usually when we have about a dozen members and 70+ "guests". Probaly takes awhile to load in all the users. Hey, you all know how much I know about this stuff. :bonk: :frust:

Energy should know where to look so I'm assuming that's not the issue.


Here's my guess: Carol was chewing me out about a post and changed her mind because she's easily intimidated. Yea, Right!! :vfunny:

The only problem I have with having to wait is when I jump to "Who's on Line". It is because you have access to see information most people don't in the 'Who's Online' window and it's a heavy processor load to get that information. Other than for moderators, Who's Online should load relatively fast.

Here's my guess: Carol was chewing me out about a post and changed her mind because she's easily intimidated. Yea, Right!! :vfunny:
Now Bill, would I EVER do that???? I might give ya a little nudge, but never any nasties from me...LOL.

Marc,
It was yesterday afternoon. Energy PM'd me the following

"Did you delete your PM to Wild Bill at it again? It was in my e-mail as a message, but when I logged on, it was gone. "

First time for everything....issue closed....RIGHT, ENERGY:)

CarolX

So energy sent you one that you can't find?

So energy sent you one that you can't find?

Carol sent me one I couldn't find in my Private Message box, but it showed up as a notification in my e-mail at home. She cancelled it because she is afraid of me! I'm a mean one! :vfunny: Don't spend any more time on it. Carol, think about what you had to say and send it again. I used to be "wild". Now, I'm tame. Or, is it lame? :p

I didn't know you can cancel them...

Are you familiar with how to do a traceroute?

Not a clue, Marc. Even if I knew how, I probably wouldn't know what I was looking at. :bonk:

Today seems to be "back to normal" though. Don't worry about it, I just wanted to let you know it seemed pretty slow. Might have just been my computer as we have been having troubles with our server.

Bill

I didn't know you can cancel them...
Yeah, How would we do that? :bonk: Duh...Boink :bonk:

Look out... Energy is using his Molewhacker... -> :bonk:

/Claes

Carol sent me one I couldn't find in my Private Message box, but it showed up as a notification in my e-mail at home. She cancelled it because she is afraid of me! I'm a mean one! Don't spend any more time on it. Carol, think about what you had to say and send it again. I used to be "wild". Now, I'm tame. Or, is it lame?
Marc,
No, I didn't cancel it...it just disappeared. Energy thinks I am afraid of him...but he knows better. He could be in for some real trouble from me:).

Energy,
How about the e-mail I sent...did you get that one?
Or are you too afraid to admit it? You don't want to everyone to know what kind of a spanking you took???????:eek:

Carol

Marc,
No, I didn't cancel it...it just disappeared. Energy thinks I am afraid of him...but he knows better. He could be in for some real trouble from me.

Energy,
How about the e-mail I sent...did you get that one?
Or are you too afraid to admit it? You don't want to everyone to know what kind of a spanking you took???????

Carol

Yes I got the e-mail. I knew exactly what it was you were PM'ing me and it was right at the time I had already took action. If I had received it, it would have looked like you made me do it. :vfunny: Did you have it in your sent PM folder? Anyway, we don't want kick up any more dust on that issue, do we? To some extent, I had it comin'. I like your style.......as well as your avitar! ;)

Here's the other secret place I posted about your suspected intentions...http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=60427&postcount=193

Did you have it in your sent PM folder?Nope...not there at all, that's the strange thing.

Anyway, we don't want kick up any more dust on that issue, do we? No way, no how :agree:

Here's the other secret place I posted about your suspected intentions...http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=60427&postcount=193Yeppers...I saw that too.

CarolX

This isn't really a problem, it just perplexes me. I use the "Posts - Last 24 Hours" button at the top after I've been here for a while and read the "View New Posts Since Your Last Visit" list. Anyway I pushed the button today and up popped this thread http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=3720&page=4&pp=15 at the top of the list. It shows me at the last poster 4 weeks ago. I haven't even been there since there have been no new posts. :confused:

Hey Ice,

This happens with threads that have polls. If someone votes, but doesn't post a reply, it pops in the time of the vote, and whoever was the last poster.

CarolX

CX, very clever you are! Thanks, I've seen that B4, looked for new post, thought "huh?". BTW, you must be flypaper for freeks, you're answering me! :biglaugh:

This isn't really a problem, it just perplexes me. I use the "Posts - Last 24 Hours" button at the top after I've been here for a while and read the "View New Posts Since Your Last Visit" list. Anyway I pushed the button today and up popped this thread http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=3720&page=4&pp=15 at the top of the list. It shows me at the last poster 4 weeks ago. I haven't even been there since there have been no new posts. :confused:

It popped up because it's a poll and someone responded to the poll, but did not leave a text message.

CX, very clever you are! Thanks, I've seen that B4, looked for new post, thought "huh?". BTW, you must be flypaper for freeks, you're answering me! :biglaugh:
Clever - yeah, right....got you fooled!!! I asked the same question a while back...just passing on the info..LOL.

I love that line...culled that from the list "thing you wish you could say at work". It's my standard response now.

Carol

Is anyone else seeing this?
Example:
In "General Quality and Environmental Topics" it has me as being the last to post under 2001 - Is This Our Future. When actually it was Sayee in How Do We Promote Creativity.

I see this in a few threads and the Since Last Post doesn't change it.

Is anyone else seeing this?
Example:
In "General Quality and Environmental Topics" it has me as being the last to post under 2001 - Is This Our Future. When actually it was Sayee in How Do We Promote Creativity.

I see this in a few threads and the Since Last Post doesn't change it.
When was the last time you dumped your cookies/temporary internet files? I don't see it, in fact in the "2001 -..." shows howste as the last poster 17 hours ago.

Anyone else see what Randy Stewart sees????

CarolX

The last time I tossed my cookies was the last time I drank Mescale (sp?) you know the stuff with the worm in it.

It's something going on, on this end. We were pushed a new service pact for Windows 2K and things are screwing up. Our computers don't have the same program loads and configuration as the rest of Ford so it messed some stuff up.

Did the news ticker disappear or did it get turned off?

Did the news ticker disappear or did it get turned off?
It might have been turned off. I'm not seeing it either.

Off until there's something I want to put in it. I decided to save it for special notices and such.

I'm getting the following error when I use the "Quote" button and preview the post.

The following errors occured when this post was submitted:

You have included too many images in your signature or in your previous post. Please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator.Does anyone else see this?

Al Rosen said:
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I am getting the following error when I use the "Quote" button and preview the post.

The following errors occured when this post was submitted:
You have included too many images in your signature or in your previous post. Please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <IMG> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator.Does anyone else see this?
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I think this has something to do with the new "QUOTE" style. Probably, those background gifs have to be enabled too!

Yes, I see the same thing, and I think Atul is correct. I cannot use the Quote function at all. Even without my adding any images I'm told I use to many of them.

/Claes

Hang on folks!

I'm getting the following error when I use the "Quote" button and preview the post.

The following errors occured when this post was submitted:

You have included too many images in your signature or in your previous post. Please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator.

Does anyone else see this?
Quote test.

Fixed!

That didn't change anything.

That didn't change anything.
It works now, I guess it was the timing.

It works now, I guess it was the timing.
The fix is locked in now.

The fix is locked in now.
Confirmed. It works... Now, one request: Can we please exchange that screaming yellow border colour for something a bit calmer? It stings my eyes...:cool: ;)

/Claes

I lightened it up a little bit. You might need sun glasses...

The word is vBulletin will release the final beta (these guys are only 1 year behind their development schedule which they detailed in mid-2001) with the 'style' changes this Friday. With this release the vB folks say there will be some signifcant changes which I hope to have configured for here by mid-December.

After the main config is made, I'll try to offer a number of different styles. I haven't used Atul's style in a while, so I don't know if he's keeping up his style sheet, but all the styles will probably be reverted to default if the changes are as significant as they say. Right now anything we do will probably have to be redone.

Right now I'm just playing - getting to know CSS better and such. I don't know that I'll keep the image based quote boxes, but I do like the way it sets quotes off from the rest of the message.

I don't know that I'll keep the image based quote boxes, but I do like the way it sets quotes off from the rest of the message.

The other way, you would see the large colored fonts, bold, etc..This is an easier read. You don't need all those attempts @ impact stuff repeated when responding. ;)

I agree with Energy (How did that happen? :confused: :eek: ;) ) I like this layout too. It aids the readability without using buckets of colour. I have found that careful use of colours is a virtue when you want a readable web page.

/Claes

Agreed that this new quote style looks nice..but that's quite a bit of HTML code and I think it loading pages a bit slowly in my browser.
...Oh, blame it on the Dial-Up

I'm going to blame your dialup on one hand and the code secondarily. I can't see a difference here at all, but I'm on broadband. I'm sure on a dialup it increases the overhead, but if you have a 10 meg cache set in your browser it shouldn't be continually popping the graphics. So yes - for those on dialup, the 'design' has disadvantaged those on dialup. But it could be worse - I could have introduced an elaborate frame set... BTW - there are about 16 possible graphics it uses - and each is under 100 bytes in size (most are 56 bytes), so they are tiny.

I really like the boxes around the quoted text, myself. I think it significanly helps with readability.

So far, this server is far quicker than what I had. I can backup the database in a minute or two where it did take between 15 minutes and 45 minutes on the Verio virtual server. It's amazing. But it should be. I've FAR over bought for what this site needs to run on.

That said, the site was set up screwy - long story. It's 'really' marctimothysmith.net. I'll explain later, but I'll be doing another server switch - it appears I have to because of the way the company originally provisioned the server - but I've been on different forums and believe I can do it quickly now (I sure have enough experience this year) - like overnight switchover for users.

Marc,
I am in agreement with the others on the new look. I think it is great and definately easier to read. Thanks for all your hard work.

Dave

I am getting a "page cannot be displayed" message from my browser after hitting the "Post Reply" button. Anyone else?

OK, it worked on this short message and refreshed the whole thread. It seems to only happen when I spend a long time on a message.

Icy,

Mine works fine.

Marc,

I really like the new look as well.:thanx:


mshell

I agree with Energy (How did that happen? :confused: :eek: ;)
The question is why would you admit such a thing? :bonk:


I am getting a "page cannot be displayed" message from my browser after hitting the "Post Reply" button. Anyone else?
No problems here. Time composing a message shouldn't be a factor in any failure mode. If you take over 20 minutes, don't do anything like Preview your message and don't have the 'Remember Me and My Password' checked, you would be asked to log in again but that's all.

'Page not found' is a catch-all in Explorer.

I'll look closer next time at what I get in the "address". From what I recall, it didn't look like I'm getting sent the address for the thread. I'll post the exact address.

Thanks for fixing the server Marc.

Now that we are back up to speed I can engage in the dialogue again - much to energy and Mike S annoyance :vfunny:

Thanks for fixing the server Marc.

Now that we are back up to speed I can engage in the dialogue again - much to energy and Mike S annoyance :vfunny:

You were missed. Glad to see you're back! :agree:

Is anyone else having problems with the reporting of Posts? I get messages that tell me there is a new post only to find that I have already read it and the other problem is about timings. I recently saw that I was the last poster in a thread and it said I posted it 18 hours ago yet I haven't been on the site for 2 days - away doing a boring course with lots of homework and the site said 'you last visted 2 days ago' plus the post is date stamped 1 week ago?? What gives?? Is this because I am on the other side of the world :bonk:

See Ya!

Greg B
(P.S: Note to self: I must get another avatar - if only I could remember how to reduce the pictures to 800 pixels!)

Is anyone else having problems with the reporting of Posts? I get messages that tell me there is a new post only to find that I have already read it and the other problem is about timings. I recently saw that I was the last poster in a thread and it said I posted it 18 hours ago yet I haven't been on the site for 2 days - away doing a boring course with lots of homework and the site said 'you last visted 2 days ago' plus the post is date stamped 1 week ago?? What gives?? Is this because I am on the other side of the world :bonk:
I'm assuming you are not referring to the Report This Post link on each post but rather notification of new posts.

Is it a thread with a poll? Remember if a thread has a poll and someone votes, the thread is updated even if the voter does not post a reply.

(P.S: Note to self: I must get another avatar - if only I could remember how to reduce the pictures to 800 pixels!)
Avatars have to be smaller than 800 x 800. The 800 x 800 is for picture attachments because in many cases people have 800 x 600 set as their monitor resolution so anything bigger over flows the screen.

Avatars have to be pretty small (generally 32 x 32 with 50 x 50 being BIG) or they blow the thread listing display awry.

The current settings are:

Custom Avatar Maximum Width (pixels) 65
Custom Avatar Maximum Height (pixels) 65
Custom Avatar Maximum File Size (bytes) 65535

So technically you can put in a pretty big avatar considering the space (dimension, not file size) allocation for each post. The file size for a picture this small shouldn't be an issue.

Most of graphics programs have a 'scale' option. That's what I use to reduce the size of pictures.

I just posted a reply in the audit scheduling thread. somehow, my text changed color from black to white after I hit the "submit" button. No harm, no foul, I just edited it back to black, but I wanted to go ahead and make you aware. Thanks, Marc, for all the work you do for us!