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Trolle 18th June 2003, 09:25 AM Hello all,
This here cove seems full of treasures. Problem is its not that evident where to find those gems. My improvement proposal is as follows.
I would like to start a thread asking for help interpret ting various abbreviations.
I don’t know how much you all share my frustration over the multitudes of abbreviations that fill our working universe. During an eight-hour shift one may well face several different engineering cultures each with their specific jargon. Not to mention our very own ISO/quality lingo. And all this is in a mystical alien tongue (i.e. English) to boot.
Anyone with me on this?
Cheers
Craig H. 18th June 2003, 09:41 AM Trolle
Welcome to the Cove!
Why not start by listing some of the "offending" acronyms? Were the ones in question quality related (i.e. QMS = Quality Management System) or internet related (IMO = In My Opinion)?
Anyhow, anything that clears the air is a good idea IMHO (=In My Honest Opinion).
Craig
Sue 18th June 2003, 10:11 AM Hi Trolle,
I, too, have often been frustrated by the multitude of acronyms used and have found a few websites that have come in handy in resolving my frustration! Perhaps these will help you as well. Quality related http://www.hanford.gov/dqo/glossaries/Glossary_of_Quality_Assurance_Terms1.pdf
*** Two DEAD Links Removed ***
You can usually find other industry related ones by doing a "google" search.
Sue
:bigwave:
CarolX 18th June 2003, 02:11 PM Hi Trolle,
Welcome to the Cove....
Try the search function. I know we did this a while back, listed out the common on-line acronyms (sp?) (spelled wrong, maybe). Good luck and happy hunting.
TTYL (talk to ya later)
CarolX
howste 18th June 2003, 02:38 PM OK, here are the ones I have used or am likely to use here:
BTW - by the way
FWIW - for what it's worth
FYI - for your information
IMO - in my opinion
LOL - laughing out loud
ROFL - rolling on floor laughing
ROFLMAOASTC - rolling on floor laughing my @$$ off and scaring the cat :vfunny:
&*^%*&%^* - cursing :eek:
EMS - environmental management system
QMS - quality management system
QS - QS-9000
TS2 - ISO/TS 16949:2002 (2nd edition)
I'm sure there are others I just can't think of right now.
Claes Gefvenberg 18th June 2003, 05:08 PM Good idea Trolle, :agree:
I'll have to admit that I often fall victim to this abbreviation plague myself, sometimes by not understanding and more often by excessive use of abbreviations on my own part.
BTW, we could always get our own back by reverting to our native Swedish.. (LMAO), but IMO the inevitable pay-back could be a bit of a PIA... ROFLMAO. FYI, the only current Cove dweller (besides the two of us) who has ever displayed any knowledge of Swedish is Kevin Mader... So I guess the audience would be a bit limited... I guess we'll have to stick to the Queens English. Oooops. I mean American English (whatever that is)
(Taking cover FWIW)
/Claes :biglaugh:
CarolX 18th June 2003, 05:37 PM Search is a beautiful thing
internet acronyms
go here (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=2946&highlight=acronyms)
quality and manufacturing acronyms
go here (http://Elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=2957&highlight=acronyms)
and for those that want to search more
go here (http://elsmar.com/Forums/search.php)
CarolX
Mike S. 18th June 2003, 05:42 PM Good idea Trolle, :agree:
BTW, we could always get our own back by reverting to our native Swedish..
I visited Sweden a few years ago on business and found that I could figure out most of the signs and things -- reading Swedish seemed somewhat intuitive for English speakers. But I could NEVER follow a conversation in Swedish! One thing I did learn is to avoid the lutefisk. Yecch! :bonk:
Claes Gefvenberg 18th June 2003, 06:13 PM Originally posted by Mike S.
---X---One thing I did learn is to avoid the lutefisk. Yecch! :bonk:
And you learned that right quick, I guess? Well done. That's one dish I stay away from too... Yuck! :-x
But I think I may have derailed this topic... Any more abbreviations for Trolles list? Btw (oh, there I go again), I was rather expecting a question about one of the abbreviations I used in my previous post...
/Claes
ISO Cheesy 18th June 2003, 06:49 PM (Taking cover FWIW)
/Claes :biglaugh: [/B][/QUOTE]
?? hua ??.... Please explain FUSP (For Us Slow People)
This use to be a PIA for me …whenever I start with a new company takes a good 3 months to learn the new terms and acronyms. Now the first thing I do when I go to a new company is make a list of TA’s (terms and acronyms) and include this list as a handout whenever I do my new hire orientation so others don’t have to go through what I did. I also incorporated a paragraph in the procedure template for this reason. I hate it when I see a procedure that has acronyms throughout and no definitions for them.
Here are a few of my QMS related ones:
DCR = Document Change Request
ICAR = Internal Corrective Action
BOM = Build of Material
TCS = Total Customer Satisfaction
RCCA = Root Cause / Corrective Action
The list can go on forever…it just depends on what company your working for at the time. As far as the Internet ones?... Just now learning from this forum.
:confused:
howste 18th June 2003, 06:53 PM Originally posted by Claes Gefvenberg
I was rather expecting a question about one of the abbreviations I used in my previous post...
Are you talking about PIA? I assumed it was a pain in the :ca:
Claes Gefvenberg 19th June 2003, 03:40 AM Originally posted by howste
Are you talking about PIA? I assumed it was a pain in something...
Bingo! :vfunny:
/Claes
Geoff Cotton 19th June 2003, 04:02 AM Claes,
I guess we'll have to stick to the Queens English. Oooops. I mean American English (whatever that is)
American English, is that reinvented English with bits of words missing? What happened to the u in colour anyway?
Queen’s English that’s another reinvention, it’s nothing like English. It’s simply English spoken by southerners with a plum stuck up their a$$e. To hear true English you have to go north of the Watford Gap.
Watford Gap --- a mythical line somewhat similar to the Great Wall of China but a bit more subtle and on a less grand scale, drawn across the map of England by the Romans in the hope it would keep the southerners out, to some extent it still works today as southerners seem to believe there are dragons and warring Vikings north of the line. (Sorry Claes, Norse of the line.)
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Claes Gefvenberg 19th June 2003, 05:13 AM Yep... and as a matter of fact quite a few scottish words and expressions can be traced to the scandinavian languages. We'll have to blame the vikings for that. (You may have guessed by now that languages is one of my greatest interests in life :p )
/Claes
Trolle 19th June 2003, 09:09 AM Many thanks to you all for your help!
And Sue, your website links are sure to be very handy, :) :)
Claes, please note that in those gloomy days when UK business was down due to, to many Roman fat cats. They had to call in consultants from all over Scandinavia to get things in order. These consultants came up with many novel ideas; most important must have been the very concept of Anglaland (England i.e.). Even in them good old days consultants already knew that there where always more money to get while fixing what they didn’t do right the first time around. As far as I know, ever since them Vikings launched this bis version, English has been a smashing worldwide success.
Cheers
Claes Gefvenberg 19th June 2003, 10:40 AM Originally posted by Trolle
---X---Even in them good old days consultants already knew that there where always more money to get while fixing what they didn’t do right the first time around. As far as I know, ever since them Vikings launched this bis version, English has been a smashing worldwide success.
Cheers
My word, you're right... I do wonder what their consulting fees were in those days..? :vfunny:
/Claes
db 19th June 2003, 10:43 AM What makes matters worse is that here in the US (The country that invented English), we can't get it straight. Try to hold a conversation with a group of folks from Maine, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan’s UP and San Francisco Bay. Even though they are all from the US, they would not do well in communicating. :bonk: :frust:
Claes Gefvenberg 19th June 2003, 11:05 AM Well... We have the same thing even here in a country as small as Sweden. Lots of different dialects, some of which I certainly struggle with...:frust:
/Claes
Trolle 19th June 2003, 11:27 AM Sorry got carried away by this Viking stuff, but ...
It is Midsommerweekend our version of your thanksgiving(?)
A celebration going waaay back before even the Vikings. Just imagine all those generations sharing the same experience.
ie hedace the day after.
Happy Midsommer Claes!
and the rest of you to.
Randy Stewart 19th June 2003, 11:48 AM It is Midsommerweekend our version of your thanksgiving(?)
Does that mean you have to watch a team like the Detroit Lions embarrass themselves playing Football on national TV? I feel sorry for you
:biglaugh:
db 19th June 2003, 11:54 AM Does that mean you have to watch a team like the Detroit Lions embarrass themselves playing Football on national TV? I feel sorry for you
Stew, evidently you aren't paying attention. :rolleyes: Trolle said the Lions are playing the Vikings. Although I thought the Vikings were from Minnesota, not Scandinavia (Is that near Green Bay?)
Bill Ryan 19th June 2003, 01:26 PM ... the Lions are playing the Vikings. Although I thought the Vikings were from Minnesota, not Scandinavia (Is that near Green Bay?)
As a transplanted Lions fan, isn't it funny that no Central Division team wants to play them on Thanksgiving :confused: (for that matter - any team would rather play the Cowboys lately :rolleyes: ). Even though the Packers have just played them again, I know they don't want to.
And YES - in December the Packer fans feel they are too close to Scandivavia.
A couple of GM acronyms:
PCR - Process Change Request
PTR - Production Trial Run
Bill
Randy Stewart 19th June 2003, 03:10 PM You're right db, I guess I'm still confused about Rick Carlisle.
Here's one more for the abbreviations.
I/O Error = Idiot Operator
Just had an operator running tryout on a part due tomorrow (prove out this morning and run tonight - JIT:eek: ).
He's done and loads for the run. Cycles the press for the first part and get this.
1) 2 pieces of sheet metal loaded,
2) runs it over tonnage!
Results = Broken ring, snapped in 2! This is the same guy that just finished running the tryout! He didn't have to change the set up at all. Almost sounds like it was done on purpose.
:bonk: :frust:
Mike S. 19th June 2003, 03:29 PM Stew,
Sounds like it was FUBAR!
:eek: :vfunny:
db 30th June 2003, 02:47 PM Stew,
Sounds like it was FUBAR!
You know, I had not hear that phrase since leaving the military. Lately, I've been hearing it a lot. I heard a pastor use it a month or so ago. He didn't know what it stood for. So I clued him in. Of course, now if anyone asks him it stands for:
"Fouled Up Beyond All Repair"
The message gets accross, and yet the language is toned down. Same thing with SNAFU. :vfunny:
Marc 18th March 2005, 01:49 AM Also see A 'New' Aspect of the Cove - A Definitions and Acronymns page? (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=11099)
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