Go to (security) and look at Styles and Templates. Let me know what you think.

Can't find Styles / Templates on that page!!

I went to vBulletin site and saw their 'Admin Demo' . The control panel that I saw at the url given above is different from what I saw in the demo.

The AdminCP at the url youv'e given does not show any links to Styles or Templates.

Am I doing something wrong? I logged in with my username/password.

Can't find Styles / Templates on that page!!

What did you see? That is the admin control panel and I upgraded you to an administrator. It should be in a listing in the far left fram which runs up and down.

One thing to remember - there are now 'phrase groups' wherein there is html, etc.

Are you MySQL savvy?

This is what I see at:
The Elsmar Cove Forums
vBulletin 3.0.0 Beta 3 Admin Control Panel.

The left frame is not scrollable. It shows only Moderator options. There are no Styles / Templates in this (as I could see in vBulletin Admin Demo).

I use SQL with access/sql server/oracle. I have not worked with MySQL before, but I guess the Query Language should be pretty much standard.

Yeah - you have a very restricted view. Let me check your permissions.

Try logging out, clearing cookies, and logging back in. maybe even clear your browser's cache. that is really weird. I'm not sure what to say.

As an FYI to the other moderators, your control panel is at: (security) which will soon be: (security)

Try logging out, clearing cookies, and logging back in. maybe even clear your browser's cache. that is really weird. I'm not sure what to say.

Tried everything - even deleting the cookies by hand. No effect. I'm still getting the same panel.

Also cannot access 'User Options' from my own (or any other user's) profile.Getting a 404. I could access this yesterday.

I'm wondering if it's an issue of the forums being set up for Elsmar.com while it's running from admin20.gsp.com until the DNS servers start pointing Elsmar.com to this IP. dan said he was leaving for NY this morning so I hope tonight he starts the transition. I screwed the start up yesterday at noon because I couldn't get the forums transferred and up by then.

I did re-upload all the php files and forced text in case one or more were sent binary somehow.

I can do all my user options and such. All that I have failing is when I view a user's profile and click on the link to the the admin options for that user.

Well, we'll monitor things. If you (or anyone else) see(s) anything let me know.

I reviewed vBulletin's bug forums and didn't notice anything relating to this off hand.

It is beta software so I have to accept some initial bugs. I just wish I didn't have to change servers at the same time.

Atul,

Try again now and see what happens. I made some changes to the main configuration file and a javascript file. I also rebooted the server.

Also go to:

(security)

Choose Master Style (near the bottom) and use it for a while. It's the base style that the program comes with.

I can't figure out how to get rid of the green.

I also notice the header and footer are centered (I used the html center tag for each) whilst the rest of the body of the pages are aligned left.

I've pretty much narrowed it down to templates I've changed. I'll really have to troubleshoot them. this new software isn't very forgiving and I hate playing with this stuff for so long...

I'll get back with you on this. I'm using vBulletin 3 Style right now.

Update: Part of the problem was in (you probably guessed it) the header...

Atul,

Try again now and see what happens. I made some changes to the main configuration file and a javascript file. I also rebooted the server.
No Luck. Its still the same panel! :(

I'll play with some other stuff and get back with you. Must be another switch somewhere....

The following is based on what I can make out from the Admin Demo available on vBulletin site:

For the Style called Master Style: the variable {pagebgcolor} is defined as green.

To change this:

- Go to Admin Panel->Styles->Modify

- In 'Style Set', select the Style you want to change: In this case 'Master Style'

- Click on [Fonts/colors/etc]

- Jump to [main colors]

- First entry : Page background color is probably green. Change it to wahtever you want. Click on the butten next to the textbox to see the new color.

- Save Changes

Administrative Options: User Options: (In any user profile) shows a message:
Sorry, you don't have permission to access the administrative controls on this page.

If you need to access this page, ask your lead administrator to enable your permissions for this page using the Administrator Permissions section of the control panel.

I Can access moderator control panel (modcp) but no permission to access 'Join Requests' within moderator cp. (Don't know what are Join Requests)

Accessing admin cp now hangs my browser.!!!

Looks like I'll have to wait for this DNS thing to happen before I can try to access admincp.
:frust:

I've edited (to remove security links) and moved this thread to a public forum so that folks understand that this upgrade and move to a different server is not a simple matter of calling someone and saying "Do it!" Uness you agree to pay megabucks....

I want to thank Atul for his help!

Atul - I appreciate your help!

I'll get with you on existing admin issues thru PMs. Do post other issues in public.

Marc

Looks like I'll have to wait for this DNS thing to happen before I can try to access admincp.
:frust:
It's been a while since we have communicated. Thus, my report, if you will, to you as well as the rest of the folks.

My ISP isn't the fastest person in the world, but he is a good fellow. he returns frantic phone calls but I've seen him wait a week before returning an e-mail reply. On the other hand, he's a reseller buying from Verio and he's US$100 cheaper a month than anyone else. And the range goes up about US$350 a month for 24 hour telephone support. That's what I had with Blue Hill - before GSP. I think we did that change in the fall of 2001.

Anyway, he's in New York doing a Habitat for Humanity gig (my kudos!). He said the DNS change was entered - this was at 10 PM Monday night. I'm not up to the current but I remember something about 4 AM (or whatever) DNS updates. I think I saw Claes post that his domain server was pointing to the new IP (198.173.255.212). I'm in Cincinnati on my local teleco's ADSL system. They're not bad, but then again.... As of right now the Fuse (my local ISP) DNS servers are still pointing to 161.58.193.73 for Elsmar.com and 16949.com (and qs9000.com which NO ONE should still be using...).

And I don't even want to talk about e-mail. That's a longer story because I funnel all site e-mail through SpamCop because I get a couple of hundred SPAMs a day and - well, over a year and a half ago it became unbearable.

On to 'styles'. I'm confused. Really confused. I'm not CSS savvy, although I **THINK*** I understand the idea - a repeating function which 'sets standards' (like link colours). Soon we'll get your administrator access working. I agree, thought, that waiting until the domain propagates will be best. You apparently understand better than I so when you can get in, take a look and tell me what you think. All in all I'm looking for a simple display. I liked the blue borders I had before, but I can't reproduce them.

If anyone reading this has any recommendations on display format, Reply in this thread. I'm open to suggestions.

I did get the site - the part other than the forums - search engine (Perlfect Search) up and indexed the site. I still have to get a program I use for protected directory access (Password manager) up and running. Standard *nix routine - correct permissions, directory paths, etc.

You're on dialup so you can't see so well at 56k, but this server runs about 5x as fast as the other server. Response is unbelieveable. Indexing used to take between 5 and 7 hours. On this server it takes about 45 minutes! I'm really impressed here. Pages load really fast for me. The difference is like going from 2400 baud to 9600 baud was back in the late 1980's when I had my first bulletin board up on a dial-in. Man - what a change... A meg of RAM was like heaven. I ran a port of BBS-PC on an Amiga.

So it goes. Just thought I'd sorta touch base and let you and the others know what's happening. Check this top:

last pid: 57652; load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 up 0+22:37:16 00:43:10
22 processes: 1 running, 21 sleeping
CPU states: 1.4% user, 0.0% nice, 1.4% system, 0.4% interrupt, 96.9% idle
Mem: 625M Active, 1046M Inact, 198M Wired, 98M Cache, 199M Buf, 45M Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 2052K Used, 4094M Free

PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND
8115 www 18 0 21484K 13672K lockf 1 23:58 0.00% 0.00% httpsd
8112 mysql 2 0 33620K 17244K poll 1 13:07 0.00% 0.00% mysqld
8117 www 18 0 22052K 14180K lockf 0 5:42 0.00% 0.00% httpsd
8116 www 18 0 22048K 14276K lockf 0 5:21 0.00% 0.00% httpsd
8114 www 2 0 19268K 11664K select 1 2:42 0.00% 0.00% httpsd
8113 www 18 0 19012K 11248K lockf 0 1:48 0.00% 0.00% httpsd
8081 root 2 0 13524K 5180K select 0 0:08 0.00% 0.00% httpsd
8038 root 2 0 3636K 2028K select 0 0:03 0.00% 0.00% sendmail
8035 root 2 0 2124K 1292K select 1 0:01 0.00% 0.00% sshd
57652 root 28 0 1436K 1032K CPU1 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top
8024 root 2 0 932K 568K select 1 0:00 0.00% 0.00% syslogd
8033 root 10 0 980K 632K nanslp 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron
8068 pgsql 2 0 6884K 1680K select 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% postgres
8031 root 2 0 1072K 624K select 1 0:00 0.00% 0.00% inetd
8041 smmsp 18 0 2808K 1740K pause 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail
56936 root 2 0 5000K 1692K select 1 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd

Right now for me it's a waiting game.

I am glad if whatever little I did has helped Marc. I know Marc has been working almost without any rest to make this transition (Even on his birthday!) and we are all really happy for the results.
-Atul

Something has gone seriously wrong. Long story. I'll let you folks know when i know what the problem is.

Atul,

Try that admin link now - just preface it with elsmar55.tempdomainname.com

I spent the better part of the morning going through user group permissions. Many were imported OK but there a lot of new options which I hadn't gone through on a group by group basis.

I did dump the attachments from the database into a directory to make the database smaller (a new 'feature').

Anyway, with respect to styles, take a look and if you see anything let me know. No big rush but you might see something I'm not.

So far on this server the forums have been running without a hitch. It's really quite fast at database dumps, database table verification / optimization and indexing.

So far, so good.

Just to confirm that I can go in now. Thanks. Haven't explored yet.
Green in Master Style is still there!

Yes - I've got the default set to English, I believe.

I've just got to better understand what's happening. I have to understand the SPAN tag and such.

I see that you can't choose master style from user control panel. English style is just white & gray- no borders, nothing..
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I can't set my Time Offset from 'Options'. It just does not save GMT+5:30. I tried to change it 3-4 times. It always saves GMT+6.

I deliberately selected GMT +9:30 (Adelaide...)and now it says:
All times are GMT 1e+0 hour. The time now is ..... (GMT+1, Brussels - and using scientific notation ???)

Can't be changed using my Time Options through admincp.
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<span> is just like <div> - format whatever is inside the tag according to given style - except that span does not start a new para, div does.

I see that you can't choose master style from user cpntrol panel. English style is just while & gray- no borders, nothing..
There are 3 or 4 styles right now and from the admin control panel you can either make them available to the user (individual control) or not.

I just have to bone up on what's happening. I've kept things relatively simple until now...

I can't set my Time Offset from 'Options'. It just does not save GMT+5:30. I tried to change it 3-4 times. It always saves GMT+6.

I deliberately selected GMT +9:30 (Adelaide...)and now it says:
All times are GMT 1e+0 hour. The time now is ..... (GMT+1, Brussels - and using scientific notation ???)

Can't be changed using my Time Options through admincp.
This is a 'known bug'. See http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73868

I thought I fixed it late this morning. See if it works now.

I tried to fix all the 'relevant' bugs listed at http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=76

<span> is just like <div> - format whatever is inside the tag according to given style - except that span does not start a new para, div does.
OK - I really have to bone up on CSS and tags. I'm getting a better idea how tables are passed through and such as well.

I kept things simple for a long time. Not even any frames. Argh! This is not my profession! And I'm spending more time on the vBulletin forums than here!

Just to confirm that I can go in now. Thanks. Haven't explored yet.
Green in Master Style is still there!
I'm using the 'English' style (it really has nothing to do with the language as the name implies) and the green is gone on my end. And - the 'Master' style isn't really a 'Master' style per se. That is, it's not the 'base' style or anything as far as I can tell. I really have to dive into that soon - lots of things on the list right now.

I did get the search feature for the general site up on this Verio server and got the site indexed. Did the same for the 'old wwwboard forums'.

This was the result of a bug report I made. I LUV beta software! There were just so many new, not to mention improved, features I just HAD to do it. Bug fixing isn't always fun, but when you get most everything working it's a good feeling!

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74804

This error 'cost' me roughly 20 hours as slow as the old server indexed and such.

BTW - I don't know if I told you this new VPS2 server indexes in less than 45 minutes. Took between 5 and 7 hours on the old server. Talk about a 'bummer'.

Too bad I don't just have a T1 or better and I could do everything on a computer here.. Oh, well... For now, Verio it is.

As a note - I hated Verio from a few years back (long, sordid story) but they appear to really have their act together. I've made 5 calls to tech support and didn't wait over 2 to 3 minutes for a live techie. I was really impressed and surprised.

Hey Atul,

Check the Styles in the admincp. In Beta 4 they put color pickers by each 'attribute'.