View Full Version : Calibration Software - Seeking Suggestions - Commercial or Home Made
Mike S. 2nd July 2003, 03:42 PM I'm looking for some recommendations on good calibration management software. I don't need a list of companies that sell the stuff, I'd like to hear your opinions on what you have used that you like (or don't like). I don't know Access, nor does anyone else here, so writing our own is not too feasible right now.
We're a small company -- under 50 people. I don't need something with lots of bells and whistles, R&R functions, bar-code readers, label printers, whiz-bang kinda-stuff. I'd perfer something basic and reasonably easy to use (and train others to use) without reading a manual the size of War and Peace. Something easy to back-up to a server or CDROM or transfer to another computer if needed without headaches or loss of data.
If for some reason you don't want to post your opinions publicly please e-mail me. Thanks in advance.
Marc 2nd July 2003, 03:57 PM I'll bet someone out there has an Access database you could have a copy of. I don't remember if anyone has posted one in a thread or not. I'll have a looksie this evening. Or are you looking specifically for commercial program?
Bob_M 2nd July 2003, 04:02 PM I'm looking for some recommendations on good calibration management software. I don't need a list of companies that sell the stuff, I'd like to hear your opinions on what you have used that you like (or don't like). I don't know Access, nor does anyone else here, so writing our own is not too feasible right now.
We're a small company -- under 50 people. I don't need something with lots of bells and whistles, R&R functions, bar-code readers, label printers, whiz-bang kinda-stuff. I'd perfer something basic and reasonably easy to use (and train others to use) without reading a manual the size of War and Peace. Something easy to back-up to a server or CDROM or transfer to another computer if needed without headaches or loss of data.
If for some reason you don't want to post your opinions publicly please e-mail me. Thanks in advance.
I do not know the price, and have not read the brochure for the current version but...
http://www.cybermetrics.com/products/products.htm
Take a look at GageTrak and GageTrakSE (if you get prices please let me know)
We have an OLDER version (version 3) that work for us (currently around 25 people :( ). Rather simple to use. Some bells and whistle, but MOST of them are add-ons now.
If you do find a good low-end product let us know.
(We may want/need to update at some point).
Bob_M 2nd July 2003, 04:04 PM I'll bet someone out there has an Access database you could have a copy of. I don't remember if anyone has posted one in a thread or not. I'll have a looksie this evening. Or are you looking specifically for commercial program?
Gee Marc your so eager to help :bigwave:.
A basic pre-built database sounds good.
*man I gotta get that PAYpal info from my wife*
*kicks self for not contribing yet* :bonk:
Jerry Eldred 2nd July 2003, 04:13 PM with a company as small as that, depending on what your test equipment population is, you might even want to just consider an Excel spreadsheet. In my consultant days, I audited a major provider of very specialized standards, with an excellent quality system that simply used Microsoft Excel. I would say that if you had less than 50 or so instruments, it could be the simple answer that would cost basically nothing.
A cheap database runs in the thousands of dollars. A top end one can be more than $50K - $80K (I know, I've priced them recently).
The second alternative, since you asked... is MetTrack. I've used earlier revisions of it, and liked it. Even if it is an off-the-shelf database, it requires set up and training. I was a one man lab at a couple of different companies. I created one system on dBase IV (a long time ago - those records are long gone). I bought Mettrack at the second company. It is a good system, very versatile, costs a few thousand dollars. But even so, still requires a significant amount of time to set up and learn. You used to be able to access Mettrack on Fluke.com website. But I believe they have a totally website whose URL currently eludes me.
But back to Excel... For a small inventory, you can make it do a lot with some finesse. It's not nearly as difficult to learn as MS Access. But it has a lot of versatility. Using workbooks and hyperlinks between documents, you can make Excel act like a relational database fairly painlessly.
My opinions above are completely my own, and are not intended to market any products or to imply there is anything wrong with others, only to give personal insight from my experiences.
Atul Khandekar 2nd July 2003, 04:17 PM Mike,
A few months ago, Chris Jacobson (cjsys.com?) had offered a cal. software free ( and as is) in these forums. If I remember right it was on MS Access. I think you'll find the link in the Company Advt.- Free Offers forum.
If you are interested, I may still have the program downloaded somewhere on my office PC and I can find & send it to you.
-Atul.
PS (Disclaimer): I never did get down to trying or using the program.
Craig H. 2nd July 2003, 04:28 PM Mike
We use Blue Mountain's Calibration Manager, DOS version (I know, I know, but it does what we need it to) that I inherited.
I would suggest, though, using an Excel or Access base. That way you will have an easier time getting at your data, and there are a lot more people that can help if there are problems. Not that our software is bad - it works fine - but I really would prefer the ability to look at raw data. Also, in the future when you do need to upgrade or change, it sure will be a lot easier than having to try to transport data across formats.
Just my 2 cents.
CarolX 2nd July 2003, 04:37 PM Atul and all,
cjsys.net
I found the thread Atul refered to and the link is dead. Going to the main page shows the site is under construction.
Oh well.
CarolX
Mike S. 2nd July 2003, 05:32 PM Thanks for the replies everyone.
Marc -- I am not married to a commercial program at all -- someone's Access database tailored to the job would be great. It is just that I do not know Access.
Jerry - I do know Excel fairly well (not expert), and tried that in the past, but it just seemed a bit tedious. Maybe a more imaginitive Excel user could do better.
We have about 60 items in the system now, and this could easily double in a year or so. Lots of stuff that gets done 3-4 times a year, too.
Thanks!
howste 2nd July 2003, 06:52 PM I've used a couple of versions of PQSystems' GagePack software. (http://www.gagepack.com/) They have a 30 day trial you can download to see if you like it first. I think it costs about $800. It does all of the basic stuff, includes email notification when gages are due, plus things like linearity, bias, stability, and R&R studies. Overall I was very happy with it.
BTW, the last version of it I used (3 or 4 years ago) was built on a database that I could open in Access, so I could get to the raw data if I wanted to.
Atul Khandekar 4th July 2003, 05:56 PM I found the thread Atul refered to and the link is dead. Going to the main page shows the site is under construction.
Oh well.
CarolX
Sorry, I should have checked before posting.
Anyway, FWIW, here it is...(~ 375K, zipped)
CarolX 7th July 2003, 04:03 PM Atul,
Thanks for the download. Unfortunately I can't view it, I am still on Office 97, and the version you posted needs 2K version.
Thanks again!
Carol
Mike S. 7th July 2003, 05:51 PM Atul,
Thanks for your efforts. Unfortunately, like Carol I'm still using Office 97. We're not too progressive here at my company as you can probably tell. :( But maybe in the future...
Bob_M 7th July 2003, 06:04 PM Atul,
Thanks for your efforts. Unfortunately, like Carol I'm still using Office 97. We're not too progressive here at my company as you can probably tell. :( But maybe in the future...
WOW!
Not to pick on anybody or brag...
But I thought we were slightly behind using Office 2k and Windows NT4.
Then again, why update if what you have works!
(Of course we updated when our company was at its peak in sales a few years back... Oh the memories...)
Jimmy Olson 7th July 2003, 06:27 PM Mike,
Since you don't have many items here is a link where you can get free calibration tracking software. It will allow you to track up to 150 items for free (if you have more than that you have to pay). I haven't used it, but I know some people that have and they said it works pretty good. Might be an option to check out. Plus it will help you suck up to the boss by saving money :vfunny:
http://www.qsrhelp.com/trackpro.shtml
Graeme 16th July 2003, 10:51 AM I'm looking for some recommendations on good calibration management software. ...
We're a small company -- under 50 people. I don't need something with lots of bells and whistles, R&R functions, bar-code readers, label printers, whiz-bang kinda-stuff. I'd perfer something basic and reasonably easy to use (and train others to use) without reading a manual the size of War and Peace. Something easy to back-up to a server or CDROM or transfer to another computer if needed without headaches or loss of data. ...
Mike,
The lab I am working with has been using Gage InSite (IndySoft, http://www.indysoft.com/) for a little over two years. It has been very satisfactory ... more powerful than a lot of others, less expensive than the big-name high-powered ones, and highly customizable. It will do everything you want plus a lot more. It is easy to use (especially for the bench technician) and easy to administer.
We are a small lab (10 people) that is a tiny division of a Fortune 500 company. but we set up this on our own without any support from the corporate IT folks; it is running on a network that is strictly internal to the lab. (Actually, corporate IT didn't even know about it for almost two years!)
Mike S. 16th July 2003, 11:34 AM Graeme and Richard,
Thanks very much for the information. I appreciate it! :bigwave:
I'm downloading the free software and will give it a try and if it doesn't work I'll try Graeme's.
Thanks again!
bobhall 22nd July 2003, 09:10 AM i've tried a couple different software packages, and found GagePack by PQ Systems to be the better of the bunch for the money. currently using GageTrak and not real thrilled with it.
I'm looking for some recommendations on good calibration management software. I don't need a list of companies that sell the stuff, I'd like to hear your opinions on what you have used that you like (or don't like). I don't know Access, nor does anyone else here, so writing our own is not too feasible right now.
We're a small company -- under 50 people. I don't need something with lots of bells and whistles, R&R functions, bar-code readers, label printers, whiz-bang kinda-stuff. I'd perfer something basic and reasonably easy to use (and train others to use) without reading a manual the size of War and Peace. Something easy to back-up to a server or CDROM or transfer to another computer if needed without headaches or loss of data.
If for some reason you don't want to post your opinions publicly please e-mail me. Thanks in advance.
Al Weisenborn 19th April 2004, 06:26 PM In the spirit of full disclosure, I must tell you that I am the programmer for TrackPro, the calibration management software that was previously mentioned in this thread. The software is free for users of 150 items or less.
I also wanted to mention that version 2.0 has been released and that it contains many new and improved features. TrackPro has also relocated to http://www.trackpro.org.
Best Regards,
Al
Super20G 10th May 2006, 02:28 PM The lab I am working with has been using Gage InSite (IndySoft, http://www.indysoft.com/) for a little over two years. It has been very satisfactory ... more powerful than a lot of others, less expensive than the big-name high-powered ones, and highly customizable. It will do everything you want plus a lot more. It is easy to use (especially for the bench technician) and easy to administer.
You have not went very far in your deployment if you have found it to be easy to administer. The basics, yes, the nitty gritty to form the software to your specific needs, no.
What versions of Gage Insite do you all use? Do you create custom events, Custom scripting to handle database inconsistencies?, Custom reports to handle the reporting needs common labs would need that are not included?
I highly recommend at least one full-time staff member to be dedicated to this roll out for the first year or more...
Graeme 22nd May 2006, 12:24 AM Super20G - please see my reply (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?p=149449#post149449) to your essentially similar message in the ISO 17025 forum.
Engr.gauravnarula 24th October 2007, 04:02 AM Sorry, I should have checked before posting.
Anyway, FWIW, here it is...(~ 375K, zipped)
Thanks for this !!:cool:
sridharafep 24th October 2007, 05:43 PM Pls any Access database available here?
I am presently using excell and would like to go for better.
Sridhar
Ruebenn 26th June 2008, 03:31 AM Dear Sir,
Kindly pass a copy of the software to me as well?
May i ask in which field of calibration are you specialized in ?
Are you in the RF/MICROWAVE field,Sir?
If you are, i would very much seek your help??
Where are you located at ,Sir?
Rgds
Ruben
harry 26th June 2008, 04:38 AM Dear Sir,
Kindly pass a copy of the software to me as well?
May i ask in which field of calibration are you specialized in ?
Are you in the RF/MICROWAVE field,Sir?
If you are, i would very much seek your help??
Where are you located at ,Sir?
Rgds
Ruben
Hi Ruben,
Try to quote the post you are referring to (just like what I did to yours) so that people know which post or 'Cover' you are referring to. As it is, I don't know whom you are referring to neither would the person you are trying to communicate with.
In case you are in doubt, go to the relevant post, click on 'Quote' (next to edit) and you can reply from there.
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