The Elsmar Cove Wiki More Free Files The Elsmar Cove Forums Discussion Thread Index Post Attachments Listing Failure Modes Services and Solutions to Problems Elsmar cove Forums Main Page Elsmar Cove Home Page
Google
  Web Elsmar.com
*Please be aware that SOME RECENT forum threads may not yet be indexed by Google.

View Full Version : Process Tool Attached - 'Process title page' to describe all links, COPs, MOPs, SOPs


andrey_or
15th August 2003, 10:36 AM
We try to use this new tool for covered requirement of certification body, AIAG and other. We use "Process title page" where describe all links, COPs, MOPs, SOPs and other .....
This page allows us do not change the procedures or flow body, we try to make changes only in this page.
Please see it and tell you opinion.

Marcelope
15th August 2003, 10:47 AM
I do not understand why you want to know how many PDCA-steps are metioned in a process, nor do I understand the botom table.

I have identified 12 processes within our productioncompany and described them in max 4 pages (APQP) per process

Am I doing something wrong then?

Marcel

Bob_M
15th August 2003, 10:56 AM
We try to use this new tool for covered requirement of certification body, AIAG and other. We use "Process title page" where describe all links, COPs, MOPs, SOPs and other .....
This page allows us do not change the procedures or flow body, we try to make changes only in this page.
Please see it and tell you opinion.After a BRIEF view of your "tool" I may actually find it helpful.
We are weak in defining our inputs, outputs, and measurables on our main processes (just finished pre-assessment).
I may attempt to use this "tool" to help show everyone else the concept of process "mapping" and the plan do check act concept before our Oct upgrade audit.
Thanks!

PS: Not everyone here has grasped the flowchart idea or the overall "process" vs. Procedure concept

andrey_or
15th August 2003, 11:02 AM
OK I’ll try to explain the main ideas.
This form allow:
1. Identify the COPs, MOPs, SOPs (one of IATF requirements).
2. Covered all turtle blocks.
3. Identify links between processes.
4. Identify records.
5. Explain PDCA for external auditors (and us)
6. Bottom table covered requirement for audit trial (like help for external auditors) according ISO/TS 16949 implementation guide AIAG CQI-7(June 2003)

energy
15th August 2003, 11:56 AM
OK I’ll try to explain the main ideas.


I don't know about others, but I get it. I see the use of this form demonstating to a potential Auditor that the Company does, indeed, understands the interaction between their processes. That, coupled with any kind of flow chart should send any reasonable Auditor looking for other low hanging fruit. JMHO :smokin:

Bob_M
15th August 2003, 12:05 PM
I don't know about others, but I get it. I see the use of this form demonstating to a potential Auditor that the Company does, indeed, understands the interaction between their processes. That, coupled with any kind of flow chart should send any reasonable Auditor looking for other low hanging fruit. JMHO :smokin:
I agree!
Now to try to use this on our "MAIN" processes that are outlined in our QMS so we are more prepared and understanding of our own system by the time we have our update audit.
This little tool would have been helpful for me about 6 months ago *shrug*