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oq_bru
27th October 2003, 10:23 AM
Hi! What is Ford "run at rate", is there a special procedure how to do it?

Thanks for your help!
oq_bru

Randy Stewart
27th October 2003, 10:48 AM
This should happen prior to your PSW and usually coincides with the capability study. It is to prove that you can contain the quantities and quality required to meet deliveries. Can be part of the Launch Readiness Review.

oq_bru
27th October 2003, 11:20 AM
thanks! is there also a special procedure or a form to to this?

ben sortin
27th October 2003, 11:28 AM
The only catch is that your capability studies are to be run on production equipment at a rate which will support the projected volumes. This is harder than it looks prior to PSW if you have customer owned tooling.

Randy Stewart
27th October 2003, 12:17 PM
Here's what I have, please remember that my company is a proto supplier so you really need to contact your Ford STA for verification of requirements. I have 1 more file of APQP checklists but its over 7 meg.

Bill Ryan
28th October 2003, 07:26 AM
Just from my experiences:

Due to squeezing every possible second out of a "launch timeline", we have NEVER had a Run at Rate done until after PPAP approval. Typically, there is a ramp up to get to full volumes for a new product and our SQEs don't wish to perform the RandR until we're ready to meet full volume expectations.

Stew - As a "prototype house" why would you be doing Run at Rates (a production requirement) :confused:

Bill

Bigfoot
28th October 2003, 10:05 AM
As a Ford supplier someone at the location needs to check the Covisint FSP and look under the Quality directory. there is a Run at Rate procedure and also a "Phased PPAP" procedure. The reference to before PPAP comes through the Phased PPAP procedure since no "Full Approval" is granted until all 3 elements of the Phased process are completed.

Sam
28th October 2003, 10:34 AM
Hi! What is Ford "run at rate", is there a special procedure how to do it?

Thanks for your help!
oq_bruRefer to the Ford customer specifics requirements. Run at Rate is only required when specified. If specified in your contract you should contact your SQE.

Randy Stewart
28th October 2003, 10:39 AM
Stew - As a "prototype house" why would you be doing Run at Rates (a production requirement)

We run some low volume production for Ford. The Long Wheel Base (LWB) versions of the Town Car and Crown Vic - maybe 4000 doors a year.

Sam,
I have never seen the Run at Rate no be required. I think I'll mention it to our Program Managers, we always request a waiver on the quantity required maybe we don't have to do it at all.

Sam
29th October 2003, 10:04 AM
We run some low volume production for Ford. The Long Wheel Base (LWB) versions of the Town Car and Crown Vic - maybe 4000 doors a year.

Sam,
I have never seen the Run at Rate not be required. I think I'll mention it to our Program Managers, we always request a waiver on the quantity required maybe we don't have to do it at all.

Randy, just to clarify a bit; if you are Q1 it is a requirement to have the appropriate Run at Rate on file.

DavidXXQ
21st October 2007, 01:29 AM
Here's what I have, please remember that my company is a proto supplier so you really need to contact your Ford STA for verification of requirements. I have 1 more file of APQP checklists but its over 7 meg.

Hello, Randy
Can you send me your APQP checklists which are over 7 meg. you stated above? I am a fresh for APQP and learing this, your checklists can make me understand the APQP quickly, my email is DavidXXQ#163.com (change the # to @)

harry
21st October 2007, 05:38 AM
Hello, Randy
Can you send me your APQP checklists which are over 7 meg. you stated above? I am a fresh for APQP and learing this, your checklists can make me understand the APQP quickly, my email is DavidXXQ#163.com (change the # to @)

Welcome David.

This is one thread that leads to our library of APQP checklists (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=22693&highlight=apqp+checklist).

To search for more APQP checklist related threads, click on the search button (yellow in color) at the right hand side of the top bar, then key in APQP+checklist.

For new users like David who wish to contact Covers who had posted in an old thread, just click on the particular Cover's user-name, go to 'view public profile' and you will be find his details in the public profile page. In this case, Randy (Steward) had not logged-in since 3rd Nov 2006.

Do let us know if you need further help.