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gheghe
3rd November 2003, 10:30 AM
Please enlighten me.And do we really need 3rd pary auditors?

JRKH
3rd November 2003, 10:36 AM
Simply Put,
First party audits are audits you perform on yourself (internal audits)
Second party audits are when a customer audits you.
Third party audits are when an independent organization audits you.

Or

First party == I audit Me for Me

Second Party == I audit You for Me

Third Party == I audit you for Them

James

Marc
3rd November 2003, 10:44 AM
You might want to read through:

http://elsmar.com/Audit_Guide_Sample/Audit_Guide_Web.htm

As to whether they're 'needed', that's a discussion which has been around for years for which there are only opinions.

Douglas E. Purdy
4th November 2003, 09:00 AM
James,

What Party Audit is:

I Audit You for You?

Doug

JRKH
4th November 2003, 10:52 AM
James,

What Party Audit is:

I Audit You for You?

Doug


First party.
The audit is done by the company to monitor itself and no external certification is given or expected.

James

Kevin Mader
4th November 2003, 01:35 PM
James,

Nice job!!

Kevin

Randy
5th November 2003, 12:06 AM
James,

What Party Audit is:

I Audit You for You?

Doug

If you are not a member of the same organization then most likely you will be a 3rd party conducting a 1st party audit.

However if you are asked to conduct an audit to be used other than as an internal audit, like a registration audit, then you are 3rd party conducting a 3rd party audit.

"Who's on 1st?" "No, Who's on 2nd." Gets confusing fast doesn't it?

gheghe
5th November 2003, 02:43 PM
Guys,
Thanks a lot. mwahhzz!

barb butrym
13th November 2003, 05:13 PM
I agree...nice job James.