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Marc
6th December 2003, 12:14 AM
The gamma upgrade is complete. There will be some changes to layout and such over the next week or two, but I want to make the changes slowly. There is an entire now 'phrase' system I have to learn more about...

Please report any bugs / problems in this thread. Thanks!

Marc
6th December 2003, 01:22 AM
Plaese take a minute and let me know what you like and do not like about the new software.

What was there in the 'old' software that you liked which you would like to see here (including formatting)?

What do you dislike in this 'new' software?

What would you like to see?

Quality-1
6th December 2003, 09:45 AM
Hi Marc:

Congratulations on updating your website.

This look of website is better than the last one. Also, feels like user friendly.

Have a wonderful weekend !

regards,
Quality-1

Atul Khandekar
6th December 2003, 11:01 AM
Cannot delete a Private Message using the 'Delete this Message' checkbox and button (when viewing individual message). I get a page saying "Invalid Private Message specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster."

I can delete a PM from the page where all messages are listed.

Marc
6th December 2003, 11:26 AM
I'll check it out.

Confirmed bug.

I'll check the vBulletin bug thread.

Marc
6th December 2003, 11:45 AM
Cannot delete a Private Message using the 'Delete this Message' checkbox and button (when viewing individual message). I get a page saying "Invalid Private Message specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster."
Bug identified and FIXED.

Claes Gefvenberg
6th December 2003, 12:56 PM
Wow... Another facelift. This forum looks better and better all the time. Good looks besides the great information.

Ok, one thing: Not exactly a bug, but maybe just me not looking in the right place? Where is the "posts since last visit" button?

/Claes

Claes Gefvenberg
6th December 2003, 01:04 PM
I like this clean fresh look. It feels less cluttered than the earlier ones.

/Claes

Marc
6th December 2003, 01:10 PM
Where is the "posts since last visit" button?
I believe that is the link new the top in the bar with User CP, FAQ, etc. The link is the 'New Posts' link for posts since your last visit.

This is different than the "Get Daily" link which is not in any of the bars right now, I don't think. I'll be changing the header (right now the header has a link "Posts - Last 24 Hours") but I'll be sure to include the "Get Daily" link somewhere. I use the "Get Daily" link a lot but seldom use the "Posts Since Last Visit" link.

Claes Gefvenberg
6th December 2003, 01:27 PM
I believe that is the link new the top in the bar with User CP, FAQ, etc. The link is the 'New Posts' link for posts since your last visit.
Doh! Yes, I just found it... Thank's. Must have had my dark glasses on.:cool: I kept looking all over the place and missed the obvious (Some auditor eh? Very observant).:o

/Claes

energy
6th December 2003, 01:54 PM
I like this clean fresh look. It feels less cluttered than the earlier ones.

/Claes

I just like it. I have to check Monday at work. I noticed Friday that I had to scroll back and forth to see the whole post. Probably me. :bonk:

Atul Khandekar
6th December 2003, 03:03 PM
Has anyone tested in Netscape - esp. the drop-downs and roll-ups?

wrodnigg
6th December 2003, 03:27 PM
...thought to be on the wrong site (the first moment)

But it looks great!

I can't really compare it to the "old" one, but I like this one ;)

Marc
6th December 2003, 07:01 PM
What are you using, Atul?

D.Scott
6th December 2003, 08:11 PM
I like it from home but I will have to check out the system at work before I can comment on bugs and the like. As far as the initial impression - it is great.

Dave

Atul Khandekar
7th December 2003, 12:13 AM
What are you using, Atul?
IE6 here at home as well as at the office.

Marc
7th December 2003, 12:24 AM
I've tried these Mac browsers and found no problems: Mozilla, Safari, IE 5.2 (I think), and Camino and everything appears OK on them.

FYI: There is a bug in the Printable Version view. It doesn't parse bbcode. It's supposed to be fixed in a Monday 'Bug Fix' release according to their Bug Tracker thread... There are a number of issues - I've alread fixed a few - such as the uploading of attachments problem, but they often don't post the details fix.

Marc
7th December 2003, 12:30 AM
Doh! Yes, I just found it...
I'm sure there will be a lot of confused people on Monday. This is like changing forums software completely.

I am impressed with many of the changes. There are a few more I really want to see - but I think will have to hack.

I'm still figuring out where many things are myself.

Wes Bucey
7th December 2003, 03:07 AM
I particularly like the feature that works like my email programs - main thread listings [on the screen when I click "Posts - last 24 hours"] are in boldface until I read them and then refreshing the screen shows the visited threads in regular typeface. Sure helps me keep track of where I've been if I get distracted during a session.

Greg B
7th December 2003, 04:50 AM
Marc,

Great work, again. This looks great and I have had a really good tour through most of the site over the past 24 hours or so. The user interface is excellent to work with and it seems easier to manage Thread subscriptions and messages etc. Everything is clean and uncluttered. I tried to post last night (It would have been the first post) but it said it could not find the server although it looks as if that is now fixed. Again, great work and an added bonus to a great site.

Greg B

Greg B
7th December 2003, 05:09 AM
Marc,

I just found the list of stuff I was going to post last night.

The tool bars are excellent I have listed some below.
The 'Thread Tools' all work with the 'Show Printable Page' and 'Email this Page' excellent tools (used both O.K) The 'Unsubscribe from this Thread' is well placed within this toolbar and also works.
'Rate Thread' is well placed and maybe now more people will start using it.
'New Posts' is easily accessible and works well.
'Calendar' is well presented and looks good
'Member List' is easy to use and the search engine works
'User CP' works well and the new layout and options are too many to comment on but I have used most of them and had no trouble.

I hope this helps. It looks great. Well done from another happy consumer.

Greg B :)

Marc
7th December 2003, 07:05 AM
I tried to post last night but it said it could not find the server although it looks as if that is now fixed.
I have no idea what that could have been. I guess a router or something somewhere. The server has been up and I haven't had any problems accessing it.

Claes Gefvenberg
7th December 2003, 08:40 AM
Has anyone tested in Netscape - esp. the drop-downs and roll-ups?

Not Netscape, but I have tested it with Opera 7.21... and it works like a charm, as usual.

:topic:
Opera is a great browser btw, and clearly faster than IE in spite of some extras that IE lacks. That tends to be quite important to us modem users. Oh yeah... It's also free....

/Claes

Raptorwild
7th December 2003, 09:53 PM
Marc,
Looks great from home! I will try it Monday at work.
Paula

db
8th December 2003, 09:07 AM
It will take some getting used to. I still hadn't finished figuring out the old style. :bonk:

D.Scott
8th December 2003, 09:17 AM
Has anyone tested in Netscape - esp. the drop-downs and roll-ups?

Netscape worked fine from home. I use IE here at work and that works as well. Just for kicks, I tried Avant on my daughter's computer and I didn't notice any problems although I didn't do much more than read posts.

Dave

Bill Ryan
8th December 2003, 09:23 AM
Not that I used it, but did the "Chat Room" go away?

What I see I like. Thanks Marc.

Bill

Claes Gefvenberg
8th December 2003, 09:27 AM
No the Chat rooms are still there: On the left side of the screen, under the Restricted Access Directories.

/Claes

Bill Ryan
8th December 2003, 09:29 AM
:bonk: Time for an eye exam!!!

Claes Gefvenberg
8th December 2003, 09:38 AM
:bonk: Time for an eye exam!!!
You and I both... I missed the New Posts link, and it's smack in the middle of the screen :o . This new layout is brilliant, but I'm still learning to navigate it.

/Claes

Icy Mountain
8th December 2003, 10:37 AM
Marc,
After the shock wore off when the first page loaded:
Echo the post praising the change from Bold to regular typeface after you have read a thread. Very nice for navigation so you don't have to read everything in order to keep track.
Pages look more concise, easier to scan with the poster description separating each post I don't have to scan to the left to see who authored a post. The post title tends to stand out a little more.
No complaints as such, just getting used to where all the buttons moved.
Keep up the good work!!!

Graeme
8th December 2003, 03:36 PM
Marc,

Very nice - and the same praise that everyone else has already said. I did get a bit frustrated when I couln'd find the "Search Forums" in the header graphic, but after a minute or so I finally found the new place to click - right in front of my nose.

Great work! :cool:

Graeme

energy
8th December 2003, 04:12 PM
That dropdown menu in "Quick Links" gives you just about everything you need. You've outdone yourself, Grasshopper! ;) Think I could do if for $40? :vfunny: :agree:

db
11th December 2003, 02:20 PM
Just tried to post in the 14K Forum. There were no threads listed, only the Consultant thread. Am I nuts?

D.Scott
11th December 2003, 03:27 PM
Just tried to post in the 14K Forum. There were no threads listed, only the Consultant thread. Am I nuts?

Nope - you are as sane as everyone else around here. Wait - that doesn't say much. :biglaugh: I only see the one thread too.

Dave

Marc
12th December 2003, 12:45 PM
Just tried to post in the 14K Forum. There were no threads listed, only the Consultant thread. Am I nuts?
Check how many days you have set to display. If you have 'Last day' set you may see no posts. See attached - I have 75 days set. I'll check to ensure the default isn't screwed up.

David Hartman
13th December 2003, 11:28 PM
Where'd the "Handshake" smilie go? That was my favorite. At certain times nothing else here seems quite so appropriate as a simple friendly handshake. ;)

Marc
14th December 2003, 12:36 AM
Where'd the "Handshake" smilie go? That was my favorite. At certain times nothing else here seems quite so appropriate as a simple friendly handshake. ;)
Do you mean this one? :agree:

Claes Gefvenberg
15th December 2003, 04:34 AM
Great New styles selection Marc. I particularly like the English Style - Liquid Very easy to read, that one. Thank's.

:thanx:

/Claes

David Hartman
15th December 2003, 09:21 AM
Do you mean this one? :agree:

Yea, but I notice that it's available now that I'm on my computer here at work. For some reason, while on my home computer the number of smilies available to me was limited. Does that make sense? :confused:

Proud Liberal
15th December 2003, 10:04 AM
What happened? The forums used to run the full width of the screen. Now I have a four inch wide border on the left and right side. That's a lot of wasted screen on a 21" monitor.

:bonk:

Claes Gefvenberg
15th December 2003, 10:15 AM
The forums used to run the full width of the screen. Now I have a four inch wide border on the left and right side.
No worries. Have a look at the very bottom of the screen in the left hand corner. There, you'll be able to choose between different style sets. I think the "English style - Liquid" will be what you're looking for.

/Claes

Marc
15th December 2003, 10:17 AM
Am I nuts?
Just rumours... (Sorry - couldn't help it :thedeal: )

Marc
15th December 2003, 10:18 AM
No worries. Have a look at the very bottom of the screen in the left hand corner. There, you'll be able to choose between different style sets. I think the "English style - Liquid" will be what you're looking for.

/Claes
I'll probably set 'Liquid' as the default.

Bob_M
15th December 2003, 10:19 AM
WOW.
I've been gone for about a week and not visiting as often lately :bonk: and everything is changed around again!

Some pages/graphics seem to hang while loading and we're on a full T1. IE6.0 (customized version? HUH? Time to check on my comptuer again).

Bob_M
15th December 2003, 10:34 AM
This is my 3rd attempt to re-reply to this thread.
Let me clarify that. I had a 2nd cove window open (humor thread).
All attempt to post with second window open failed (page not found - newreply.php i think).

Quick reply also not working with second window open.

Where did the PM button go? Or was there never one? I'm confusing boards and everything is so new looking here. :bonk: :frust:

Marc
15th December 2003, 10:44 AM
Does that make sense?
No. A cache issue, maybe?

Atul Khandekar
15th December 2003, 10:45 AM
Where did the PM button go? Or was there never one? I'm confusing boards and everything is so new looking here. :bonk: :frust:
Just click on the poster's name...

Marc
15th December 2003, 10:51 AM
This is my 3rd attempt to re-reply to this thread.
Let me clarify that. I had a 2nd cove window open (humor thread).
All attempt to post with second window open failed (page not found - newreply.php i think).

Quick reply also not working with second window open.
Anyone else experiencing the above?

Where did the PM button go? Or was there never one? I'm confusing boards and everything is so new looking here. :bonk: :frust:
New style... A number of the buttons which were in every post were moved to make the threads 'cleaner'. Click the avatar or name in any post and all the personal stuff is there such as the PM link, WWW link, etc.

You'll probably want to play around a bit with the 'Navbar' near the top of each thread. This is a drastic transition in 'format'. Some boards are even bringing back the buttons into the threads because users like them there. I'm looking at what and how they're doing it, but so far I like this 'cleaner' look best myself.

db
15th December 2003, 12:35 PM
Check how many days you have set to display. If you have 'Last day' set you may see no posts. See attached - I have 75 days set. I'll check to ensure the default isn't screwed up.

Yep! that was the problem. Now, it won't stay. I have to change it back each time I visit that Forum. It only occurs with the 14K, so I think it may be a default issue.

Marc
15th December 2003, 12:56 PM
I checked the forum default and it was set to 1 day. I reset it. I don't remember ever setting any forum to 1 day as default, but obviously I did...

Let me know if you see this in any other forum.

Icy Mountain
15th December 2003, 02:08 PM
This is my 3rd attempt to re-reply to this thread.
Let me clarify that. I had a 2nd cove window open (humor thread).
All attempt to post with second window open failed (page not found - newreply.php i think).
Marc,
This is what I was talking about in this post:
http://Elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=65955&postcount=236

When I spend a short time typing a post I get something like this address:
http://Elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?p=67231#post67231
after hitting the Submit Reply button and I see the updated thread with my post.

When I spend a lot of time typing a message like this one, I was getting this address:
http://Elsmar.com/Forums/newreply.php
like it tried to refresh the current reply page rather that sending the new updated thread address.

This phenomenon comes and goes.

For this lenthy edit I got:
http://Elsmar.com/Forums/editpost.php
as the address, but I get the page not found error since the stuff like this isn't on the end:
http://Elsmar.com/Forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=67231

Wes Bucey
15th December 2003, 03:18 PM
I've had a similar experience on three or four occasions.
I regret I didn't document it fully at the time.

Essentially, it seems to happen when I get distracted in the middle of creating a post (phone, urgent email, boss, etc.) and then go back to the post 5 or 10 minutes later, finish the post and hit "preview" or "submit" only to have the entire message disappear. No back arrow retrieved it.

Since the first few times that happened, I created a "workaround" for myself by selecting and copying my entire post before submitting when I've been delayed during the creation. I've only had to use the "workaround" once to recreate/replace the missing post.

I just assumed it was a "time out" situation. I'm interested in reading what others have to say.

energy
15th December 2003, 05:44 PM
Since the first few times that happened, I created a "workaround" for myself by selecting and copying my entire post before submitting when I've been delayed during the creation. I've only had to use the "workaround" once to recreate/replace the missing post.

I just assumed it was a "time out" situation. I'm interested in reading what others have to say.

Exactly what I do when I'm interrupted. The only problem I've had then was copying something else and forgetting that I had my post next on the clipboard. :bonk:

Marc
15th December 2003, 06:27 PM
Timeout is set at 20 minutes on the server. If you have autologin set it shouldn't be an issue.

At this time all I can say is I haven't experienced the problem. I do have 'autologin' (remember me) set to ON.

I'm going with energy here - it's probably timing out after 20 minutes.

Right now, I'm not sure where I'd begin to look.

Energy - is this 'new' to you or was this a pre-Gamma problem for you?

Wes Bucey
15th December 2003, 06:32 PM
Timeout is set at 20 minutes on the server. If you have autologin set it shouldn't be an issue.

At this time all I can say is I haven't experienced the problem. I do have 'autologin' (remember me) set to ON.

I'm going with energy here - it's probably timing out after 20 minutes.

Right now, I'm not sure where I'd begin to look.

Energy - is this 'new' to you or was this a pre-Gamma problem for you?That's cool. Twenty minutes is probably the minimum I was delayed on those few occasions. I can use my workaround if I take longer. I feel relieved just knowing it isn't some big, hairy problem with compatibility.:thanx:

energy
15th December 2003, 06:42 PM
Energy - is this 'new' to you or was this a pre-Gamma problem for you?
Naww! Always been that way. In a couple of occasions, it worked out for the better. Gave me a chance to cool off or saw a post that addressed the reason I was posting in the first place. Know what I mean? ;) Kind of a forced "Take a minute before you reply". Saved me some embarassment. I have enough of those moments! :bonk:

Wes Bucey
19th December 2003, 08:20 PM
Similar threads? I'm curious. What is the mechanism which creates a pool of similar threads at the bottom of a thread? Machine or human intervention by moderators?

micron
20th December 2003, 12:09 AM
:bigwave: Marc, yours is has got to be the most dynamic, powerful, feature packed forum on the 'net bar none. The fact that you would even try to improve on something that is head and shoulders above the rest (and I've tried a few) is amazing in itself. I wonder how many people appreciate the specialized programming that goes into somethintg like this, and here you are doing it for free. OK. 'nuff sucking up to you (and no, there's nothing that I want [at least right now]) so, if you must search for perfection, go for it!

I love everthing you've built here and it will be a real shame if you ever have to discontinue it for some reason. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!

Marc
20th December 2003, 12:55 AM
Similar threads? I'm curious. What is the mechanism which creates a pool of similar threads at the bottom of a thread? Machine or human intervention by moderators?
It's part of the scripts as an evaluation function. See the attached.

If you would like to suggest other settings, I'm willing to listen. Please include discussion of your logic. Please play with the system a bit before you suggest.

This is why, in part, most every day I look at threads with ambiguous titles and retitle them. You might also notice I often go in and correct spelling errors, put in para. numbers (as ref), correct capitalization and such.

I see this as a VERY important part of the forums - which is just a database. It's like a big company where you want to do 'reports'. In these forums, the Search function and Similar Threads are very significant aspects with respect to why may people end up here. They want information and want to be able to weed out the garbage.

Marc
20th December 2003, 01:13 AM
I love everthing you've built here and it will be a real shame if you ever have to discontinue it for some reason.
Excuse my bluntness, but if you feel this way, see: http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=6641 and consider contributing! (Unabashed advertisement)

Marc
20th December 2003, 01:18 AM
Great New styles selection Marc. I particularly like the English Style - Liquid Very easy to read, that one. Thank's.
That is the 'default' vB 3 style. I personally don't like it. To me it's bland and the light blue vs. white text make it hard to read and key to.

But - styles are easy to 'make' now so there are several now and there will be more in the future.

I use 1960's Liquid (BTW - definition of liquid: liquid just means the tables resize when one resizes their browser window).

Marc
3rd January 2004, 08:52 AM
vBulletin Release candidate 1 has been released and I have installed it. Please report any problems in this thread. Changes aren't dramatic, but there are quite a few:

See: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=90857

Summary:

<div><b><font size="3">vBulletin 3.0.0 Release Candidate 1</font></b>

Just under a month has passed since the release of <a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88013" target="_blank">vBulletin 3.0.0 Gamma</a>, in which time a lot of teething problems with the new style have been identified and resolved, along with the usual scattering of PHP and Javascript code errors, but the code has now evolved to the point where we are ready to say that the code making up this <i>Release Candidate</i> version is potentially the same as that in the final, stable (Gold) release.

You will notice that the new images are not a part of this release, as they are taking more time than expected to produce, but they will be along in time for the final, Gold version of vBulletin 3.0.0.

All efforts in producing this version have been towards stabilizing the existing code, rather than creating new functionality, and hence at a glance you may see no difference between vB3 Gamma and vB3 RC1. However, more than 170 bugs and issues have been identified and fixed in the past month, resulting in the most secure and stable version of vBulletin so far.

Here is a short list of some of the bugs and problems that have been resolved since the Gamma release:<ul><li>"Invalid birthday" error on registration (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1309" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Made all HTTP header redirects HTTP 1.1 compliant (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1629" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Missing "Browse" button on uploads (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1280" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Unable to log into moderators' control panel (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1361" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Page can't be scrolled in IE while page is loading (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1646" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Forms in drop down menus not submittable in Safari (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1240" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Password-protected forums show too much information in last post column (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1441" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Problems logging into password-protected forums (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1321" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Emails show headers in the body / emails rejected because they contain an invalid character in the header (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1496" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>PMs unable to be deleted (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1229" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>array_merge() causes errors on PHP5 (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1588" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Phrases case insensitive in the control panel, but case sensitive when used (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1358" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Improper language and encoding of RSS feeds (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1418" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Images paths incorrect when CSS is saved as files (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1239" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Problems deleting a thread (<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&amp;bugid=1249" target="_blank">Link</a>)</li><li>Assorted style fixes</li><li>Assorted phrase fixes</li></ul>You can see a full list of all fixed bugs since Gamma <a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=list&amp;status=20&amp;vbversion=3.0.0+Gamma" target="_blank">here</a>.

<b>Feature Changes</b><ul><li>No longer limited to 30 options for custom profile fields of type: select and radio</li><li>Attachment Manager now displays "File Uploading" message when user submits a file.</li><li>Attachment Manager now updates the post window when an attachment is made.</li><li>The required birthday field for coppa registration now includes the day.</li><li>Admin can set force the Quick Reply editor to be standard, enhanced, or WYSIWYG (if user can use it), overriding the user's chosen editor.</li><li>Custom profile fields can now be included during resgistration without making them be required.</li></ul><b>Language System Changes</b>

Changes to the language system and phrases since Gamma have been
minimal, although a small number of phrases have been added to the
system.

<b>Template Changes</b>

A large number of templates have been changed since Gamma, primarily to fix cross-browser rendering issues. Rather than list all the changes here, you can use the <b>Find Updated Templates</b> control in the Admin Control Panel to find out which of your customized templates have had their original versions altered, so that you can see whether or not you need to apply changes to your custom versions.

A few noteworthy changes include the following:<ol style="list-style-type: decimal;"><li>In order to remove hard-coded text in certain javascript (.js) files, the <b>editor_clientscript</b> template has had some significant changes. If you have customized this template you should seriously consider reverting it to the original code or you risk your members not being able to post messages.</li><li>It was found that the experimental variable $vboptions[abspath] created more problems than it solved. Therefore, any template that contained the following text <i><font color="red">src="$vboptions[abspath]/clientscript/</font></i> has had that text changed to simply <i><font color="darkolivegreen">src="clientscript/</font></i></li><li>In the Gamma release, all images were instructed to have 'vertical-align:middle' via the CSS editor. This caused problems for many people using images in tables, so this system has been abandoned in favor of a selective system, whereby images that <i>need</i> to have vertical-align:middle now get that styling via <i>class="inlineimg"</i>.</li></ol>

Atul Khandekar
3rd January 2004, 09:27 AM
vBulletin Release candidate 1 has been released and I have installed it. Please report any problems in this thread. Changes aren't dramatic, but there are quite a few:

The "QUOTE" style has changed - no gifs ?

Marc
3rd January 2004, 09:51 AM
There are a lot of things that I had as 'hacks'. Some templates - including my and your 'postbit' template had to be reverted - or may have - I didn't want to take a chance. So, over the next few days I'll be putting some of the 'hacks' back in.

Marc
4th January 2004, 03:21 AM
The "QUOTE" style has changed - no gifs ?
How about this 'new' quote style? No gif calls!

Atul Khandekar
4th January 2004, 11:42 AM
Looks fine. IMO, a bit of left & bottom padding (about 10px) to the fieldset would look better.

Just curious: How many 'candidates' are expected before the final release?

Marc
4th January 2004, 02:39 PM
Yes - they're idiotic. There's a release every month now it seems. Their plan appears to be to do a 'Gold' release next - which is supposed to be the 'stable' version release. But you know how it goes. Maintenance releases will be never ending. For the most part, however, templates, phrase groups and such should not change much if any. Supposedly the graphics will be done for the 'Gold' release.
IMO, a bit of left & bottom padding (about 10px) to the fieldset would look better.
Inside padding?

I have a bunch to do justification wise. This sidebar screws some things up. I'm looking at some of these issues now.

Atul Khandekar
4th January 2004, 02:50 PM
Inside padding?

I have a bunch to do justification wise. This sidebar screws some things up. I'm looking at some of these issues now.

Something like
< fieldset >< legend >Legend< /legend >
< DIV style="padding-left:10px;padding-bottom:10px;" >
Quoted Message
</DIV>< /fieldset >

would provide space on the left and below the text.
<fieldset><legend>Legend</legend>
<DIV style="padding-left:10px;padding-bottom:10px;">
Quoted Message </DIV>
</fieldset>

Atul Khandekar
4th January 2004, 02:55 PM
OOPS! something happened to the width of this page beacuse of my post above!!

Marc
4th January 2004, 03:11 PM
Where is this defined?

In your post above I see something I never did before. Your html code - it used to be it would run the page wide. Now I see it contained in the message box with a side-to-side scroll bar! Do you see that in your browser?

Atul Khandekar
4th January 2004, 03:15 PM
Funny things happening here when I edited my post... wait, I'm trying to figure it out myself..

Marc
4th January 2004, 03:25 PM
Are you in the WYSIWYG mode? That is hard for me to work in - I have it turned off.

Hey - See attached. Any ideas?

Atul Khandekar
4th January 2004, 03:36 PM
Hey - See attached. Any ideas?

The main table (immediately after the NAVBAR where NAVBAR POPUP MENUS end) contains 2 TD elements: 1( on the left side) for the sub-forums list and the other for the sidebar. You'll see the 'gap' for all the forumdisplay pages where the height of the contents of the left side TD (sub-forum list) is less than the total height of the sidebar.

For the first TD element that contains sub-forum list, just add an attribute : valign=top

Hope this helps...

I have Standard Editor setup - not WYSIWYG.

Atul Khandekar
4th January 2004, 04:01 PM
Is there a way we can define a Custom BB code for the QUOTE? or is it pre-defined in the template?

Marc
4th January 2004, 04:15 PM
Templates - see attached.

Atul Khandekar
5th January 2004, 04:20 AM
Where is this defined?
It's in "bbcode_quote" template. I just changed it in the Red Style. Check out.

Al Rosen
9th January 2004, 10:50 AM
I've just noticed that I have to scroll horizontally in some threads, others are okay. My screen is set at 800x600. Has anyone else noticed this?

Atul Khandekar
9th January 2004, 11:09 AM
I've just noticed that I have to scroll horizontally in some threads, others are okay. My screen is set at 800x600. Has anyone else noticed this?

Al, please scroll to the bottom of the page and from the drop down box select the style that's named "Atul's Red Style" and tell me if the problem is still there (or if it is reduced- less scrolling)

Al Rosen
9th January 2004, 11:32 AM
Al, please scroll to the bottom of the page and from the drop down box select the style that's named "Atul's Red Style" and tell me if the problem is still there (or if it is reduced- less scrolling)
There's no noticeable change.

Bill Ryan
9th January 2004, 12:22 PM
I've just noticed that I have to scroll horizontally in some threads, others are okay. My screen is set at 800x600. Has anyone else noticed this?
I've got the same thing but have been afraid to mess around with my screen resolution in case it would mess everything else up.

Cari Spears
9th January 2004, 12:26 PM
Mine is too, but I thought it was because of the advertisements.

energy
9th January 2004, 01:37 PM
http://Elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=7670&page=1&pp=15
Read through this thread as this has been discussed before. I noticed that the scrolling is needed more when you start to read posts. The forum page itself is centered. I've tried all the options and see very little difference. I do prefer Atul's Red, though. ;)

Atul Khandekar
9th January 2004, 01:51 PM
Mine is too, but I thought it was because of the advertisements.
Well, not entirely..I'm trying to look into the template.

The forum page itself is centered. I've tried all the options and see very little difference. I do prefer Atul's Red, though
Thanks, at least someone noticed!! ;)
Here are the two pictures in 800x600 resolution: first in powder blue and the other in red style. This is what I've been able to manage so far. Maybe, you'll notice the difference on forums main page or on search results (New posts) page.

Cari Spears
9th January 2004, 01:53 PM
...I noticed that the scrolling is needed more when you start to read posts. The forum page itself is centered. I've tried all the options and see very little difference...

On the forum page itself, the ads are along the top. When you are reading posts the ads are along the side. I just assumed that was the reason.

energy
9th January 2004, 04:32 PM
Well, not entirely..I'm trying to look into the template.
Thanks, at least someone noticed!! ;)
Here are the two pictures in 800x600 resolution: first in powder blue and the other in red style. This is what I've been able to manage so far. Maybe, you'll notice the difference on forums main page or on search results (New posts) page.

TskTsk When I click on those thumbnails, I see that dreaded ISP, instead of Elsmar.com. What are we going to do with you? :vfunny: :vfunny:

Atul Khandekar
9th January 2004, 04:41 PM
that "dreaded" ISP? Where?

energy
9th January 2004, 04:49 PM
that "dreaded" ISP? Where?

When the thumbnail opens, it shows up on the title bar on top. Just bustin em. I'm sure it's not in the same catagory as mine. :vfunny: :agree:

Atul Khandekar
9th January 2004, 05:07 PM
I Don't think that's a part of the pic I posted. It's YOUR browser's title bar.None of my doing. Your "favorites" shortcut to Cove forums is still pointing to that "dreaded" ISP (IP). This will work fine though, till Marc changes the server next.... ;)

energy
9th January 2004, 05:11 PM
I Don't think that's a part of the pic I posted. It's YOUR browser's title bar.None of my doing. Your "favorites" shortcut to Cove forums is still pointing to that "dreaded" ISP (IP). This will work fine though, till Marc changes the server next.... ;)

Ut Oh :bonk: Thanks Atul :agree:

Marc
10th January 2004, 02:48 AM
This will work fine though, till Marc changes the server next.... ;)
Hopefully not for at least a year! This one's looking good! I'm cleaning up now.

Marc
12th January 2004, 01:53 AM
I was looking at this after fixing a bunch of broken links tonight.

Have you folks tried logging out and then, when logging in again check the "Remember Me' box?

Part of my problem is I use Mozilla which has tabs - I rarely open a new window. Well, all the browsers i have except IE are tabbed browsers.

Anyway, I noticed if I walk away for more than 20 minutes I don't have to re-log in or anything. That may be part of a setting I have as an 'admin', but I didn't think that applied to the forums as well as to the adminCP.

Marc
21st January 2004, 02:37 AM
I've merged a few threads and such as we are supposed to be at the last 'Gamma' release of the vBulletin scripts. I'll be installing the latest release - RC3 - tonight or tomorrow night.

For those interested, the changes are detailed at:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=92901

I'll let you know after I make the change. Then, according to the soothsayers, shortly after the 'Stable' release (oft referred to as the 'Gold' release) shall be upon us... At which time I'll have to upgrade again...

About 1 1/2 years late, but better late than never!

Bill Ryan
21st January 2004, 08:17 AM
Marc,

This morning I clicked on the "Policy & Aspects, Objectives, Targets" thread in the "ISO 14001 and 19011 - Environmental" forum and could not see the most recent post by Cindy (Randy's was the last one I could view). There were no ads present and the screen fit entirely. All other threads I checked were "normal" (needed to scroll right to see entire response and ads were present).

Bill

Marc
21st January 2004, 10:48 AM
I haven't changed anything yet. I'm going to try to tonight.

I did visit the thread and did not have a problem. My bet is you need to manually clear your cookies / cache files on your machine and quit and then re-launch your browser.

Marc
22nd January 2004, 03:25 AM
I may have missed a 'mod' or two but the main upgrade to RC3 is complete.

Atul - I reverted templates. See attached.

Atul Khandekar
22nd January 2004, 04:19 AM
Atul - I reverted templates.
Good Grief!