Hi:

I like to know when was FIRST TIME Visteon issued their TS Customer Specific requirements. I see a document on their websitte dated Dec 17, 2003. Is this the first issue or revised document?

Thank you

Thanks for letting me know about the Visteon requirements. We just went through our TS16949 certification audit and it was agreed with our auditor that there were no Visteon CSR`s. We got a letter from our Visteon engineer stating that the only requirement from Visteon was to be certified to TS2. This satisfied our auditor. I have not had a chance to go over them. Is there anything complicated. I hope its not similar to Fords CSR`s.

Thank you for your information.

To be honest, I just checked the Visteon website this morning and I still have to read the requirements (20 pages).

We were audited back in Oct 2003 and we stated that there is no Visteon CSR but today I saw on their website and hence, i was not sure if these were available before or they are new.

regards,
Quality-1

Just FYI, this is the file I was refering to.

regards,
Quality-1

QUALITY 1
Thanks for the info on Visteon's new CSRs. Gave them a quick review, sure looks like Ford's. Go figure. Whoever said "more is less" has not been supplying automotive products. :frust:

"Internal auditors shall have completed an internal auditing training class. The organization should have at least one lead auditor who has passed an accredited lead auditor class. When the organization does not have a lead auditor meeting these requirements a contracted third party with the above qualifications shall perform the audits. "

Whoa............

I'm sure this will ruffle a few feathers!
:eek:

Visteon have just issued a Customer Specific relating to New/Changed Part Labelling.

Attached.

"Internal auditors shall have completed an internal auditing training class. The organization should have at least one lead auditor who has passed an accredited lead auditor class. When the organization does not have a lead auditor meeting these requirements a contracted third party with the above qualifications shall perform the audits. "

Whoa............

I'm sure this will ruffle a few feathers!
:eek:
I am trying to fugure out exactly what this means form Visteon...accreidation by RAB, AIAG or who. Does this mean including the core tools, APQP,PPAP, FMEA, MSA, SPC the same as Ford. They kind of left this open to intrepretation, or vague. Trying to figure exactly what course to take.
Anybody have an input?

When we see "Visteon" we read it as "Ford", just the same as Jaguar and Land Rover are Ford. So we always apply the same core tools.

I am trying to fugure out exactly what this means form Visteon...accreidation by RAB, AIAG or who. Does this mean including the core tools, APQP,PPAP, FMEA, MSA, SPC the same as Ford. They kind of left this open to intrepretation, or vague. Trying to figure exactly what course to take.
Anybody have an input?

Excellent question Ralph. The way I take it, the language indicates the Lead Auditor class must be the certified RAB course (or international equivalent)

db, I think you are correct. I downloaded the Ford CSR for 8.2.2, and compared the Visteon CSR. Ford specifically states it must include the related core tools, but Visteon does not mention core tools.

Hi:

I like to know when was FIRST TIME Visteon issued their TS Customer Specific requirements. I see a document on their websitte dated Dec 17, 2003. Is this the first issue or revised document?

Thank you
Last november we received (well, we asked if any applicable for TS and they sent it ) a DRAFT copy of the today's released Visteon spec. So,this is the first time Visteon issue it. (to made its suppliers happier :lick: ).
Attached, summary of requirements we did after spec was review!! Now I have to re-review the released to see what they add/removed....

Geoff e-mailed me and said he's having problems uploading these so I'm giving it a go for him. :agree1: