I really wish I was still in the business! Al wants us to think about his pancreas and remind us that we have one, I think!:) :smokin:

Not really guys, I tried to change my name but could not. My problem, not yours.

Marc, if you can make the change for me I will be grateful. I would rather be known by "AL" than "pancreas".

Energy,

Yes, people should know about the purpose of a pancreas. But although important, I just use it because I can remember it because I was in the hospital for it. Very painful but I use it as a logon for a few sites. You have me down to a tee Willy!!!!! :bigwave:

You are now, again, Al Dyer

Your 'password' is the same - I don't know what it is - and I can't get that from the software - so I hope you remember it because you may have to 'log in' again. I don't know for sure. Never done this before....

Thank you sir!!! Everything seems to be kosher with the passwords and names.

Now I am not a body organ:bigwave:

Al...

Hey.... Al is back :D Welcome back, Al...:agree:

/Claes

Thanks Claes, it's good to be back!:agree:

Al Dyer said:

Thanks Claes, it's good to be back!:agree:

Al Dyer...
Only when I'm aroused, can I be fresh.


Messing with your signature. Do you like it?:vfunny:

Just being me!:smokin:

Only you Energy would talk to me like that!:biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Have a good day bud

Al...

Had to share this...

In a previous 2 day pass to Marc's files, I came across a funny cartoon about "Gang Auditing" (a couple old dudes on motorcycles talking about low riding downtown and gang auditing some people). I had it hanging outside my office on my last job and my audit team thought it was a riot.

I began a new job a few weeks ago and quickly discovered two things:
1. My staff was somewhat lacking in humor, and...

2. the Internal Audit program was poorly designed and driving everyone nuts.

So I quietly hung the Gang Auditor cartoon on the "Audit" bulletin board, labeling it, "QA humor". Let's relax and look at the light side, folks. I came in this morning to find that someone had removed it...office buzz was: some evil auditee had snuck in and put it up to "get us". :vfunny:

Oh my. I have my work cut out for me! Time for Humor101!

...Oh my. I have my work cut out for me! Time for Humor101!

:bigwave: So how's it going now?

It's better...it's important to learn how to poke fun at yourself, (or your job) in order to stay sane. Once folks knew it's ok to do that, they opened up. I encourage it. Humor is a great stress reliever.

Thanks for asking!

Hello folks. Hope the New Year finds you happy and healthy.
I've spent some time with my kids in PA and for the most part it was good.
I had to go to court over the child support thing so that was the only down side to the visit.
With the requirements for insurance on my son I've decided to get back into quality full time. I'm interviewing at company that does plating on fasteners. It's a smaller company and it looks like a good fit. I'll be back in as Quality Manager if things go right. They're looking at 9K2K and 14000 in March so it will be a trial by fire. But what's life without a few challenges?
Just thought I'd let you know what was up.

Good Luck Randy :bigwave:

Bill

Good luck Randy

...I'm interviewing at company that does plating on fasteners. It's a smaller company and it looks like a good fit. I'll be back in as Quality Manager if things go right. They're looking at 9K2K and 14000 in March so it will be a trial by fire. But what's life without a few challenges?
Just thought I'd let you know what was up.

Glad to hear from you!! And good luck. Will you still be located around this area?

Just thought I'd let you know what was up.
Thank's for the update Stew, I was wondering how you were doing. Good luck, mate...:agree:

/Claes

But what's life without a few challenges?



Randy:

I am sure you will meet those challenges head on, and prevail.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Good Luck, Stew! You should be a shoe in!

Welcome back Stew and Happy New Year. I hope the job interview goes well. Do you need a reference? I'm sure you could get a few nice ones from the cove.

Greg B

Greg, you know I thought of that but didn't say anything:bonk:

Cari, I'll be closer than you think. In Madison Hts. Depor Company off of Crooks. Look out!!!
I got the call today, I go to lunch with the President and Sales Manager tomorrow at Big Rock (off of Maple). The "can he do the job" and the questions about ability I think are over. It's the "does he fit the culture/company" is what is left. At least that's what I feel.
I think it's a good fit. These guys are good. They actually gave me their Quality Manual and said "This is what we do and how we operate"! And you know what? It IS!!!!
I like this place.
Yes, I have to wear a tie and suit tomorrow, but I haven't felt more "in place" with a company since I left the Navy.
We will do some great things!
I'll be in touch, really!!!!!:thanx:

Randy,

That's great to hear. Good luck and we look forward to hearing from you soon.

Greg B

...I got the call today, I go to lunch with the President and Sales Manager tomorrow at Big Rock (off of Maple)...

I can't wait to hear how it goes. Good luck, but it doesn't sound like you'll need it. :agree:

The lunch went great, and I received good feedback this morning. I was informed yesterday that I was the only interviewee that had made it to the lunch stage. The GM has a couple more to interview but he told the recuriter that unless one of them just blew him away that I'd be made an offer Friday or Monday.

BTW Cari, I guess I was still in shock from my first trip to the unemployment office. Depor is in Troy not Madison Hts. The unemployment office that I was dehumanized and treated like crap at was in Madison Hts. What an experience that was.:bonk:

BTW Cari, I guess I was still in shock from my first trip to the unemployment office. Depor is in Troy not Madison Hts. The unemployment office that I was dehumanized and treated like crap at was in Madison Hts. What an experience that was.:bonk:

I will say that they have come a long way in this state. Maybe it was because this time I was interviewing/searching through the Veteran's section. But, about 10 years ago I stormed out of the UE Office and told them where they could park their check. A couple of days later I went back, rather meekly, talked to another person who handed me my check without incident. I made sure that I avoided that fat lady (employee) who I invited to stand in line while I treated her like she treated everybody. It was an ugly scene. :vfunny: Security!!!! :p

I guess I was still in shock from my first trip to the unemployment office. Depor is in Troy not Madison Hts. The unemployment office that I was dehumanized and treated like crap at was in Madison Hts. What an experience that was.
First time, eh? For years its been a joke so I expect that until now you laughed but never understood the reality. It changes one's reality when you're the one in the line. There is an ex-congressman with cancer who recently changed his views on medical legalization of marijuana. He said he changed his view now that he understood the enormity of the situation (i.e.: he's on the receiving end - he may die). It's like men making laws about abortion - they have no way to understand on a 'personal' level.

What is interesting is you point out that Troy and Madison Hts. treated you differently, if I understood your post correctly.

Many years ago I did unemployment for several months. Not only was it not fun, it was humiliating, not to mention dehumanizing. I believe I have read in some states it's mostly able to be done on the internet now days. What a difference.

In your case, it's appears pretty much a short stop gap. Consider yourself lucky. Think of how many people are going through that for en extended period. Not to mention how many people run out of unemployment (which takes them off the 'unemployed' status in US government statistics - which in large part is why the reported unemployment level is so low - it is estimated to be over 9% when this is factored in).

It's good to hear everything is working well for you! Good luck!

I've only had one experience with the UE folks. When I came back from Saudi Arabia in the first Gulf War - I returned to find I had been laid off. Now everyone knows their not supposed to do that to activated reservists, but it was a legitimate layoff. I was the Asst. Supervisor of QA, they had the worst two quarters in their history, and they decided to eliminate all Asst. Supers and distribute the work between other functions. All together they let over a dozen people go. They offered me another position, at a few dollars less an hour. I opted for the unemployment while I looked for another job. UE didn't give me the least bit of hassle (of course the offer of another position was not documented as the company was grateful that I was not fighting the layoff), the only thing they did do was verify with the company somehow that the layoff was not a result of my military service. I was 22, still living at home, with no significant bills - so I figured what the heck.

I opted for the unemployment while I looked for another job.
How long were you on unemployment?

How long were you on unemployment?

I got home to find I was laid off on May 20th, I was newly employed by the end of August. So, about 3 months. Though I have to admit, I took my time about it. I'd just spent 6 months living in a tent in the desert, separated from my then boyfriend (who is now my husband). I had some fun for a few weeks, then started looking.

QA Asst. Super sounds fancier that it was at that place. At the time, I was making less than $10.00, it really wasn't hard to find work. Today, it would cripple our family.

BTW Cari, I guess I was still in shock from my first trip to the unemployment office. Depor is in Troy not Madison Hts. The unemployment office that I was dehumanized and treated like crap at was in Madison Hts. What an experience that was.:bonk:

Randy, congratulations in advance - sounds like you are pretty solid there. If you are going to be working in Troy, look up the Troy Cafe. They have the best breakfast I have ever found and one of the lowest prices in Michigan. The people are friendly and the portions are so big you will need to take a friend. No, I don't own stock :biglaugh: We used to have a plant in Troy until we built the new one in Wixom. I sure do miss stopping in there for breakfast. Now I go to Leon's across from the Ford Plant entrance in Wixom - also highly recommended.

Dave

...Today, it would cripple our family.

I've been working here since Sept 2000. For 8 weeks or so before that I had been unemployed.

The owner asked me to do something that I was not comfortable with and it escalated into an ugly scene. When I said I would not do it, she said "I own this place. If you don't like it you can pack up your office and go." So I did. I let my temper get the best of me, I could have done what she asked until I found another job. I didn't even bother to go to UE, I knew the company would fight it because, technically, I had quit. I still contend I was fired.

My sister had recently had twins, her maternity leave was up, so I babysat for that summer while I looked for a job. This also helped out my sister, since she didn't have to pay me nearly as much as it would have cost anywhere else. Without childcare costs of our own (since I was home) we managed.

Hey guys....I supposed to be in Troy from Feb 15th to the 21st teaching some courses.

Hey - makin' it to our neck of the woods. What's your schedule like? Are your courses evening or daytime?

They'll be ta couple of he 8-5 variety offered by BSI. I'm not sure yet what hotel I'll be at.

This is supposed to be a regular venue for me now with a couple of trips a year.

Randy,

Keep us informed. Maybe we can all meet. :bigwave:

Stew,

I have kept you in my prayers and hope you have found the perfect company for you. I love where I work which makes life much easier. :agree:

Cari,

How are you doing with not smoking? :mad:

Now I go to Leon's across from the Ford Plant entrance in Wixom - also highly recommended.

Dave

I go past that place on my way to work. Next time you're in, let me know. Perhaps we have a coffee.

Cari,

How are you doing with not smoking? :mad:

Not too bad yet, I haven't bitten any heads off. Although yesterday was a little tough (aggravating day at work), I'm still not :smokin:

Thanks for asking. :bigwave:

Randy,

Keep us informed. Maybe we can all meet. :bigwave

No problemo....

I have a continual date with Lucinda whenever I travel to Houston.

Meeting up with others folks is an added bonus.

No problemo....



Cari, Stew, Cindy...I guess we might have to an evening thing, rather than a lunch. Randy, I would offer to buy, but Cari demanded her credit card back following our first get together. :biglaugh:

Dave,
Been to Leons a few times, the best place out in this area for breakfast is a little place on Glengary and Benstein called TJs Diner. Best Slides and Fries around. It's about a 5 minute drive from the Wixom Plant.
Randy,
Please let us know where you'll be next month. It would be nice to get together.

I'm praying that I'll hear some news today about the job. If I do, I'll let you all know.

Dave,
Been to Leons a few times, the best place out in this area for breakfast is a little place on Glengary and Benstein called TJs Diner.

Is that near the Ice Cream place on the SE corner? I know the intersection quite well. I travel up Benstein to Bass Lake Road quite often on my way home from work.

Cari, Stew, Cindy...I guess we might have to an evening thing, rather than a lunch. Randy, I would offer to buy, but Cari demanded her credit card back following our first get together. :biglaugh:

Sounds good to me, no rush to get back to work!

Stew - we missed your company last time. We'll have to make sure it works out for you this time.

Cindy - even if we get together in Troy in Feb, I'd still love to keep our plans for my visit to your place soon. Lunch is on me - but don't tell the guys. :p

Randy - As my credit card is maxed out :vfunny: , I'm afraid I can't offer to buy either.

Can we sit in non-smoking? :ko: Just kidding.

Randy - As my credit card is maxed out :vfunny: , I'm afraid I can't offer to buy either.



Oh, and I suppose you're gointa blame that on me? :rolleyes:

I think I'm going to be doing the training at where ever BSI hangs their hat. As for the hotel, probably some place rented by the hour. :biglaugh:

Is that near the Ice Cream place on the SE corner?
Yes, it's in that little plaza south of the Ice Cream place on Benstein.
If you travel that way home db, I'm right around the corner at Decker and South Commerce

Hope this isn't too late, this is what life is all about.

Too cute! You are blessed and so is she! And a lifesize Yukon Cornelius, Herbie and misfit spotted elephant! Do you have the abomidable (sp) snowman and "Charlie in the Box" too?

Do you have the abomidable (sp) snowman and "Charlie in the Box" too? The only one we didn't get was Rudolph, we got the smaller one but could never find the big Rudolph.

Well folks, I received the job offer today and I start on Wednesday (1/14/04). I'm now the new Quality Manager for Depor Industries (part of the Magni Group).

:biglaugh: :thedeal: :smokin:

Congratulations :bigwave:

I received the job offer today and I start on Wednesday (1/14/04). Alright! Good news, Stew. Didn't I tell you you would land on your feet? Congratulations. :agree:

/Claes

Congrats Randy!!!! :smokin:

Bill

Congratulations Stew - I hope you enjoy it and let us know how things are going.

:bigwave:

That's GREAT news Randy!!! And, in record time!

Craig

Congratulations, Stew! :cool: :bigwave:

Randy, you truly are blessed....the darling grandkid, a whole bunch of stuffed animals and a good new job! Happy New Year :cool:

Congratulations, Stew!

Stew, Way to go...CONGRATS you deserve the best. :vfunny:

Well done STEW. It is great to have you back and even better that you have a future and are stil in the Q field.

Greg B

Congratulations Randy! :)

Best wishes to you in the new job.

Joe

The only one we didn't get was Rudolph, we got the smaller one but could never find the big Rudolph.

Well folks, I received the job offer today and I start on Wednesday (1/14/04). I'm now the new Quality Manager for Depor Industries (part of the Magni Group).

:biglaugh: :thedeal: :smokin:

:agree: This is great news Stew. How far of a drive will it be from Walled lake to Ferndale? I figure it should be about 15 min closer.

Thanks folks,

I have a lot to learn, but I have always enjoyed a challenge. I have a week to shadow the outgoing QM, but he will be the Production Mgr so will be available for help. It's a big change from what I was doing, but I really believe a change for the better.
I should have my phone and computer by Monday and I almost forgot; an office with windows!!!!!:cool: :smokin:

RosieA,
The last picture I posted was my daughter (Renee), my grandaughter (Victoria) is a year older!:eek:
But I agree, I have been blessed - BIG TIME.

db,
It took me an hour to get to work and 3 to get home! I left at 4:20 and with the snow it became a major trip!

...I have a lot to learn, but I have always enjoyed a challenge...

Congrats Stew! When I started working here, I had meager purchasing experience and I had never laid eyes on a ballscrew - or 90% of what we make here for that matter. Quite a change from metal stamping, but it turned out to be the "change for the better" that I needed. Everything was so interesting - and frankly, I still learn something new everyday. Even if this came about out of necessity, you're looking at it as an opportunity. Good for you!!

db,
It took me an hour to get to work and 3 to get home! I left at 4:20 and with the snow it became a major trip!

Yeah, but what about a normal day? I'm sure it won't take three hours (unless you stop in at the Copper Kettle (I think that is the name -- 15 MI and Decker) :biglaugh:

Where are y'all related to Troy?

Randy,

I am about 40 miles Southwest of Troy, located by Detrot Metro Airport.

Which Airport will you be arriving into? :bigwave:

Cindy

Where are y'all related to Troy?

About 45 minutes, but around here, that's not bad. When ya coming in, and when are we going to meet?

I'll be coming in on Feb 17th and will stay until the 20th. I'm going to be teaching at Michigan State in Troy. I'm flying into Detroit Metro and will be staying at the Hilton Northfield in Troy.

There it is

Randy

I'm a stones throw from Troy. Almost next door.

I'm not as good looking as my picture. I also have a mustache and about 60 more pounds. ;)

Randy,

What time is your flight arriving? I have church from 6:30 til around 9:00 pm but with this amount of notice could find a replacement.

I could assist you and take you directly to the car rental facility if you know which one it is. And just a side note, if you are paying for the rental car out of your own pocket, you can save a lot of money just by renting 10 miles away from the airport. Airport tax if very high.

As far as not looking like your picture, who cares?

If your flight arrives early enough why don't we all plan on welcoming Randy into town by meeting and having dinner at a convenient location for all of us? :confused:

Randy,

What time is your flight arriving?...
If your flight arrives early enough why don't we all plan on welcoming Randy into town by meeting and having dinner at a convenient location for all of us? :confused:

If your flight gets in too terribly late on Tuesday - any evening that week works. From work - it's about a 15-20 minute drive. (If I'm thinking of the right Hilton - it's on Crooks Rd?)

I'm not as good looking as my picture.

Really? That's funny, I look just like mine. :vfunny:

The plane is getting in about 6:30PM and then I'm heading to the Hilton in Troy (on Crooks). The evenings will be free from about 6PM till whenever.

I'm teaching a new course right off the presses so it will probably be a little "bumpy".

Hope it is still working, because they deserve to have a person of your stature and experience.

Al...

6:30 arrival does not seem to be too late. Any up to meeting for dinner?

Randy, need that drive to the car rental?

Cindy

Randy,

I'm in Troy on Crooks between Big Beaver and Maple (16 & 15 Mile Roads). So if you're at the Hilton we're just around the corner.

Sooo... what's the plan?

Okay, lets get all the information so we can accommodate everyone.

Randy,

What day and time are you leaving?

Which days are you available for lunch? If at all.

Which days are you available for dinner and at what times?

Will you have transportation?

What local interests do you want to see?

What to tour any one's facility?

Cindy

Okay, lets get all the information so we can accommodate everyone.

Randy,

What day and time are you leaving?

Which days are you available for lunch? If at all.

Which days are you available for dinner and at what times?

Will you have transportation?

What local interests do you want to see?

What to tour any one's facility?

Cindy


I'm leaving saturday @ 7AM

Lunch will probably be locked up

As of now I'll be available every evening, including Tuesday

I most likely won't be able to see much because of the course hours

As for facilities, I'd love to but I'm only free between 5PM and 8AM the following day

Getting together in the evening is the best bet on us hooking up. I'm checking on the car today...I just may taxi down and shuttle from the hotel to where ever I need to go. Plenty of time to plan...3 weeks anyway. I will definately be at the Hilton on Crooks

That makes Saturday and lunches out of the question.

Free from 5pm to 8am leaves a lot of open time to catch a red wings game, casino (detroit and winsor), Henry Ford Greenfield Village, and so on. My facility is open on evenings with limited personnel. On your arrival night, I offer a tour of our facility. If we all meet on tuesday evening we can shuttle you, or at least I can take you to our meeting place since I will be going there anyway (If you trust me for the hour drive!).

Stew, Cari, Dave or anyone else care to set up some meetings?

Cindy

...any evening that week works...

Doh! My daughter goes to gymnastics on Tuesdays and my husband works late on Thursdays. Wednesday or Friday sound good?

Stew - what are your arrangements with your daughter on the weekdays? Would you be able to have dinner in the area straight from work?

Does anyone care if this thread is moved to the Coffee Break forum? It's already pretty public in the Contributors forum.

Does anyone care if this thread is moved to the Coffee Break forum? It's already pretty public in the Contributors forum.

I, for one, approve. I'm falling asleep at the switch. What ever happened to the chat rooms? :vfunny: :bonk:

Marc,

Move away............. :bigwave:

I'm falling asleep at the switch. At your age Energy you can expect that to happen!:biglaugh:

As for dinner, just let me know a day ahead so I can inform the sitter and it should be okay.

Wednesday's I have school so that day is out for me.

Cindy

I've got to run - the school just called, looks like my son has the flu. :(

We probably should have moved to the "Bump into a Cover?" thread a while back. :bonk:

Friday happens to work best for me anyway. Sound good everyone?

Friday would be great for me.

Thus far, seems friday is best for everyone.

Has anyone heard from db?

Let's plan for Friday.

Now where does everyone want to meet?

Stew, it would not bother me if your brought your daughter.

Cindy

I, for one, approve. I'm falling asleep at the switch. What ever happened to the chat rooms? :vfunny: :bonk:
I'm looking at chat room integration now. I don't think they're used very often, but if the hack works, it should integrate so if you're logged into the forums your auto-magically log in to the chart room with same user name and such - mainly a click link. It also should be possible to have a small window listing who is actually in the chat rooms on the main forums page.

I might get this done before Sidney does the User Group on the 10th.

Actually I'm looking at a 'portal' type of home page which will show a number of things - who's in chat, recent threads, etc. I'm also goint to activate RSS feeds.

Lots to do!

It also should be possible to have a small window listing who is actually in the chat rooms on the main forums page.
Lots to do!

That would be a nice feature. Before, you really couldn't tell if anybody was in there. I would see, 1 user and it would turn out to be me! ;) Also, being able to chat could reduce the amount of Off Topic posts meant to further communication between 2 or more members. :thanx:

However you do it try to make sure the rif-raf and 13 year old kids can't get in an mess it up. Frequently I'm up late in the evening, I see Claes or others in the forum and the only way to communicate is by PM...real slow. I would definately load folks in that would like to communicate in real time...kinda like yahoo or aol.

I cannot fing the chat room? I have not been in there for some time. Where has it moved to?

Cindy

Stew, it would not bother me if your brought your daughter.
She would love the attention too! But an hour drive home to pick her up and a 45 minute drive back for dinner then another hour drive home just doesn't seem like a lot of fun.

Marc,

Move away.............

You want Marc to move? :confused:

Thus far, seems friday is best for everyone.

Has anyone heard from db?

Let's plan for Friday.

Now where does everyone want to meet?

Stew, it would not bother me if your brought your daughter.

Cindy

If we are talking about a Fri evening, it should be no problem. Otherwise, it will all depend on my schedule. I know there are a lot of places along 16 mile (Big Beaver) between John R and Livernois. Can't place any names at the moment (other than the White Castle at Big Beaver and Dequindre)

Can't place any names at the moment (other than the White Castle A man after my own heart! If you can't enjoy a cholesterol burger, you haven't lived!!!!
There's a Champs and TGI Fridays close by.

Glad to hear from you db.

So are we all agreed to meet on Friday evening?

What time and where?

I for one am looking forward to this.

So Randy, are up for that tour?

Cindy

Tour?....Just kiddin'

My plane gets in about 630PM and it will probably be 8 or so before I get to the hotel.

Friday on the prowl with some of you guys? Be still my beating heart....

For a great burger, don't forget Fibber McGee's in Wixom.

Dave

...Friday on the prowl with some of you guys? Be still my beating heart....

LOL - likewise ;)

So, Friday evening it is! I'm ok with any time after 5:00. If everyone else needs some more time after work and for driving to Troy, I can kill some time running errands. I love TGI Fridays Jack Daniels Tower - shrimp, ribs and chicken with their JD BBQ sauce :eek:, but I've never been to Champs so that sounds good too - either is fine.

Anytime Friday works for me. Do we have a place to meet yet?

Cindy

Dave Scott, care to drive up and join us?

Thanks for the invite but I will have to pass this time around. I am working on bringing our newest plant on line. Have a nice time and enjoy the gathering.

Dave

Bad News!

My mother is flying in on the 19th and I have to take her up north on the 20th. I will miss our meeting with Randy. I volunteered back in December and found out Sunday when she was flying in. :omg:

If I had a choice in the matter, I would much rather spend friday evening with cove friends than broadzilla. :argue: I will not return until Sunday.

So Sorry

Cindy

Lo and behold I have a change, I won't be there until the 20th.....I'll be there until the 27th doing an EMS-LA course the following week.

I'll probably put in for residency status.

That adds some possibilities for me. Although my mother will be staying with me until March 1, I will be in town and will be able to meet on the 27th. I can't tell you how disappointed I was but now there is still hope.

Are you leaving on the 27th, if so, what time and how much time do you have to spare Randy?

Cindy

Yeah, I'm bailing on the 27th. I have to be in Santa Clara, CA on March 1 to do some more of the 9K/14K auditing training thing out there so I only get 1 day at home. Don't worry, I'll be back if we miss hooking up.

Yeah, I'm bailing on the 27th. I have to be in Santa Clara, CA on March 1 to do some more of the 9K/14K auditing training thing out there so I only get 1 day at home. Don't worry, I'll be back if we miss hooking up.

Okay, I'm a bit confused. When, and where are we all meeting? I'm looking forward to a meal with a jar-headed, ex-cop who now is a lead auditor. You do pick out the popular vocations, don't you? :jawdrop:

Friday, February 20, 2004 is the day, location is Troy area. That is all that is definite thus far.

If you would like to change the meet location to Houghton Lake I can still make it.

Cindy

Randy - would you still like to meet up on the 20th? You'll just be getting in - would you rather reschedule so you can get settled in that evening?

...I'm looking forward to a meal with a jar-headed, ex-cop who now is a lead auditor...

With bated breath...

The 20th is great for me. i have nothing to do but sleep in late and watch the tube on saturday (which i kinda enjoy actually) :D

I'm at the Hilton (I'm sorry about the low class of the facility)

After extended engangemnts in Orlando, Dallas, Las Vegas and most recently Toronto...coming to your area until Feb 27th.....appearing at the Troy Hilton and Michigan State University Management Education Center....

RANDY DAILY!! :applause:


Hopefully I'll get to meet some of you guys. My schedule has me teaching until 5PM or so this week, next week later most nights because it's a Lead Auditor course. I'm watching TV over the weekend. :bigwave:

Hooray!! Are we all still on for the 20th? Still works for me.

Sure...I just checked out Fitzgeralds here and to tell the truth it ain't too shabby, or whatever you guys agree on.

Gotta bail, it's 9PM and I have to prep for tomorrow.

Later all

Hooray!! Are we all still on for the 20th? Still works for me.

Okay, so it is the 20th at Fitzgeralds, right? What time? I will be in Howell for a lunch meeting, but will be free after that.

I'll be at work until 4:30 and can be in the area by 5:00. If that is too early, I can run some errands to kill some time.

I don't know where Fitzgeralds is. Is it in the Hilton?

I still wish I could be there. I expect a full report from everyone including pictures! :biglaugh:

I will be thinking about all of you in Houghton Lake!

Yep, Fitzgeralds is in the hotel.

Trust me, I'll be free at 5PM. By Friday I will have 104 hours of instructing courses in Feb with another 40 to go :biglaugh: :mg:

Great, I'll head over right after work then.

Hey Cindy - Don't be too sad, Randy just posted in the "Bump into a Cover?" thread that he'll be heading back to Michigan again pretty soon. You have fun at Houghton Lake! :bigwave:

I do enjoy Houghton Lake. Very peaceful and lots of wildlife (deer, turkey, birds etc). And visiting my Aunt is never a pain.

Randy, I am sorry I have to miss this meeting, but I will look forward to the next visit.

Cari, db, and Stew, I expect a full report.

Randy,
I can see the Hilton from my office window! I'm at Crooks and Maplelawn. If I wasn't doing the afternoon calls this week I'd stop in.

Are you serious? You're that close? I'm doing the training at the MSU Ed Center just a short ways from here.

Tomorrow will officially end no later than 2PM (or earlier), I've had a great group that has allowed the process to flow rather fast.

I will be easy to spot in the hotel. I will be the only guy wearing a bright yellow sweatshirt with

MARINES

:tg:

Ok sports fans this post may be more appropriate in the "Bump into a Cover" thread but what the hay?

There I was siting in Fitzgeralds (the food and beverage joint in the Troy Michigan Hilton) and the hostess brings over to my table this thing that looked like someone had grabbed an ugly dog, shaved his fanny and made him walk backwards...db hisself had arrived!!! We of course did the intro's, exchanged the secret handshake and started to tell tall tales. In just a few minutes in walks this crusty looking old gal that probably has to refrain from looking into mirrors to avoid 7 years of bad luck....Cari Spears in the flesh!!! I wasn't too concerned with how people would react seeing these 2 with me because the hotel at the time was full of Wiccan's, Druid's, Mystic's, Pagan's and others attending their annual Convocation (convention of sorts).

With all that said...I had a great time talking and just socializing with two of my good friends that I met here in this place that Marc has so graciously provided, and I think they enjoyed it too. The conversation was really beyond my ability to bring to life here, and hopefully Dave or Cari can expand upon my poor attempt. We spent nearly 2.5 -3 hours together and I hated to see it end.

Dave and Cari are really fun (and nowhere near look the way I described, even though Dave is nowhere near as pleasant to look upon as Cari).

Guy's, I really want to get with you 2 again.

Honestly, all of you other Cover's should never pass up the opportunity to meet our friends here. We may disagree at times, and we may occasionally err in our attitudes, but by and large we are in the end workmates and bud's.

I'm gonna copy this post and plant it in the "Bump into..." thread also just to make sure folks see it.

...in walks this crusty looking old gal that probably has to refrain from looking into mirrors to avoid 7 years of bad luck....Cari Spears in the flesh!!!

You smooth talker. :o You do know how to make a girl blush! :tg:

Can't wait 'til the next time! :bigwave:

You smooth talker. :o You do know how to make a girl blush! :tg:

Can't wait 'til the next time! :bigwave:


Next time is here darling :bighug:

I'll be back in Troy, MI from April 13 - 16th. Apparently the Canadian National Railroad has acquired my services for a few days.

I'm staying at the Hilton again.

Randy,

Okay, give us all the details. When do you arrive, free time, leave, etc. I am open on the 13th, school of the 14th, and pantry on the 15th but can skip with timely notice. Wild horses could not keep me away. That offer of the tour is still open.

Cindy

I should be at the Hilton by 5PM on the 13th and free from then on all evening.

Classes will be over by 5PM on the 14th and 15th, so I'm free from 6PM or so those nights.

I fly back to Arkansas on the 16th from DTW.

The 13th works for me.

What time is your flight out on the 16th? Got time for breakfast after you turn in your car and check you luggage at curbside?

Louie’s is close by and known for their breakfast servings.

Cindy

Wheels up is about 6:30AM. What are you doing about 2 or so?

I'm getting back fast because I need to repack at home and get to Chicago on Sunday the 18th. I'm in Chicago until the 23rd and then I'm off to Houston on the 25th-30th.

American Airlines loves me!

Randy (Stew), Dave, Cari, or anyone else available? Not at 2am that is but on April 13,14, or 15th during normal hours?

Cindy

Wheels up is about 6:30AM. What are you doing about 2 or so?

I'm getting back fast because I need to repack at home and get to Chicago on Sunday the 18th. I'm in Chicago until the 23rd and then I'm off to Houston on the 25th-30th.

American Airlines loves me!Where in Chicago? Maybe we can split a cork.

Cool :agree1:

I'm arriving on the 18th and will be at the

Hickory Ridge Marriott
1195 Summerhill
Lisle. Il
Phone: 630-971-5125 (I think)

I'll be presenting some EMS courses at the hotel for BSI and will be free after 5PM or so everynight.

Randy,

You are the social butterfly. :applause:

Maybe we need to start a contest to see you can meet the most covers during a years time. The winner could receive a free coffee mug. :)

Glad you are staying busy.

Cindy

Randy (Stew), Dave, Cari, or anyone else available? Not at 2am that is but on April 13,14, or 15th during normal hours?

Cindy

The only day I would have available is the 15th (unless things change).

I can do the 15th with notice.

Anybody else?

hey, you guys work it out, I'll be there regardless. :D

Where in Chicago? Maybe we can split a cork.
Randy is there on business. Let him treat you!

Thanks Marc :rolleyes:

You didn't offer to buy ME a drink when we met, so I figured I'd warn others! OK - I didn't offer to buy you one, either. But then again, you invited me to the bar that evening! I was there 'incognito'... :rolleyes:

I had to maintain my professional distance from a student.... :lmao:

Are you serious? I thought I did....I bought for Dave and Cari when they came by and I forgot you? I am honestly :o

Umm, well, no. I wasn't being serious per se. It wasn't a big deal to me. I didn't advertise I would be there but then again I didn't expect anything other than what was. We definitely maintained 'our distance'.

I wouldn't have minded meeting a few folks that evening and was sorta sorry no one showed. But I didn't expect anyone because I didn't advertise I would be there. I wasn't trying to hide anything. I just didn't want to introduce bias. I will say I thought your evaluation was a bit positive - I'm a bit slow... But even as an old man I do try to learn from time to time... :read:

Umm, well, no. I wasn't being serious per se. It wasn't a big deal to me. I didn't advertise I would be there but then again I didn't expect anything other than what was. We definitely maintained 'our distance'.
OK. Let me see if I understand Marc's position on this:

Randy is a professional Quality person.
Marc and others from the Cove are also professional Quality persons.
Randy and these other professional Quality persons had a conference about Quality topics which directly or indirectly affected Randy's professional interaction with his client.
Therefore:

Randy would have been (and will be in all such future conferences) within the scope of his professional duties to bill the client extra for this conference and to pay the expenses [at least] of the other professionals and perhaps split fees with them.
In addition, I understand Marc audited Randy's teaching methods and style with a view to giving "dispassionate" feedback and helping Randy become a better platform presenter. In which instance, Marc would have been entitled to a fatter share of the fee split.
The logic makes perfect sense to me. That Marc is certainly proof that even young guys of 53 have some business sense.

Marc....next time, my dime! :lol:

Wes....your buying in Chi-Town ;)

Marc....next time, my dime! :lol:

Wes....your buying in Chi-Town ;)A little tip - nobody from Chicago EVER calls it "Chi-town"
Same for Boston and "Bean Town"
I'm not sure about "Shakey Town" for Los Angeles.

However, I have it on good authority [my sister-in-law] that Los Angeles has a very laid-back attitude about stuff like that. So much so that they call their main airport LAX (as in "Lax, Man. Don't sweat the small stuff.")

My Troy dates changed....They are now April 12 - 15. All the other info is the same

The client needed the change to accomodate some folks coming in from out of state for the training.


Sorry guys...

Wow - I lost track of this thread. I've been quite busy - I'm happy to say that on March 29th we passed a gruelling supplier audit from a big aerospace company. We are on their approved vendor list and have already received 10 PO's this week!!

Anyway - I've decided to use some vacation time and stay home with my kids while they're out of school for spring break. I'm taking Good Friday and the next whole week off. I won't be returning to work until the 19th. Woo Hoo!!

I need to avoid Tuesday evening - have to have my daughter to the gym by 6:00p - but any other day or time works!

Marc - I had intended to meet up with you guys after I read Randy's post, but that day we were asked to go out to the above mentioned aerospace company for a meeting with their powers that be to meet and greet before our on-site audit. Ah well, another time perhaps.

I was really sorta slipping in and out without fanfare so I didn't expect anyone to be be there - except, of course, Randy - who was teaching.
Marc....next time, my dime!
OK - When and where is the next SA training?

OK...who's meeting me when? I'll be in Troy at the Hilton on 12 April (Monday) and I fly out of Detroit on the 15th. I have M-T&W nights open after 5:30PM as far as I know now

I am available to meet any of those nights, how about everyone else?

A little tip - nobody from Chicago EVER calls it "Chi-town"
Same for Boston and "Bean Town"
I'm not sure about "Shakey Town" for Los Angeles.

However, I have it on good authority [my sister-in-law] that Los Angeles has a very laid-back attitude about stuff like that. So much so that they call their main airport LAX (as in "Lax, Man. Don't sweat the small stuff.")

Wes,

Those of us who have had to deal with the traffic around LAX and flying in/out of it have a few other names for the place also.....since this is an open forum and includes mixed company, I will forgo details however.

I will be in the windy city (Chicago) 22-23 April.....in Skokie.....and open to meeting.

Hershal

By the way....is there a preferred location to announce conferences and calls for papers here in the Cove?

Wes,

Those of us who have had to deal with the traffic around LAX and flying in/out of it have a few other names for the place also.....since this is an open forum and includes mixed company, I will forgo details however.

I will be in the windy city (Chicago) 22-23 April.....in Skokie.....and open to meeting.

HershalSure! Give us some details. Where you staying? What are you in town for - audit or conference or family?

Re: LAX - life is different everywhere with intensified inspection in past 2-1/2 years. Whenever I was in LA on business, I stayed in Marina Del Rey, regardless of where my business was. Relatively short commute to LAX (no freeway jams) and lots of good restaurants open late.

:topic: Trivia. Do you know WHY Chicago is called the "Windy City?"
Hint - not because of the ambient wind velocity.

I will provide details this upcoming week....they are at the office and I am at home (for a change it seems).

I will be in town for only three nights, for assessment.

No, actually I don't know why, but am curious......I thought it really WAS because of the wind, which was blowing well every time I have been in Chicago!

Hershal

Just as a side note, I usually fly in/out of Ontario....second choice is Lindbergh (SD), third choice is John Wayne (OC), have not yet tried Long Beach (LB), LAX only if there are no acceptable alternatives.

Should I post the cities I will be going to (as it stands this hour that is) over the next few months?

Hershal

No, actually I don't know why, but am curious......I thought it really WAS because of the wind, which was blowing well every time I have been in Chicago! Hershal"The Windy City" --- New York Sun editor Charles Dana, tired of hearing Chicagoans boast of the world's Columbian Exposition (1893), dubbed Chicago the "Windy City."
Wind effect in Chicago:
Two major physical phenomena contribute to a "microclimate" within the "Loop" (so-called portion of the central business district which is encircled by elevated commuter rail tracks.):
1) Lake Michigan: during the day in summer, land heats faster than water, resulting convection creates on-shore breeze which dissipates within short distance from lake. At night, lake acts as heat sink and the air current reverses direction as lake heats air above it.

2) Tall building/narrow street combination: during the day, sun strikes and heats the tall buildings causing convection current. Outside air rushing through narrow, canyon-like streets is subject to Venturi effect. Similarly, any ambient wind is deflected by tall buildings, also causing Venturi effect.

On a day when the wind is officially recorded at 20 mph at O'Hare Field, building managers string safety lines for pedestrians in the various Plazas in the Loop, because winds can be magnified 2 or 3 times (40 to 60 mph), literally knocking folks off their feet and into the street.

One benefit: this natural wind tunnel effect keeps the streets swept clean of loose trash!

Some building windows have been known to pop out as a result of the Bernoulli effect (dangle two dollar bills about an inch apart and blow between them. Counterintuitively, they come together instead of spreading apart.)

Long Beach is great...especially for coast-to-coast (Jet Blue). It has the old So. Cal feel to it in many ways similar to the old Ontario (no jet ramps). Of course Jet Blue also uses Ontario, and I used to prefer Ontario when I lived in Barstow. My next selections were John Wayne (Orange County to you non-Cal folks) and Long Beach....I'd go to Vegas before I'd use LAX.

For the miscelaneous (did I spell tha right?) subject look in the Coffee Break Threads. If you don't find one that fits, start your own...we'll jump in.

Long Beach is great...especially for coast-to-coast (Jet Blue). It has the old So. Cal feel to it in many ways similar to the old Ontario (no jet ramps). Of course Jet Blue also uses Ontario, and I used to prefer Ontario when I lived in Barstow. My next selections were John Wayne (Orange County to you non-Cal folks) and Long Beach....I'd go to Vegas before I'd use LAX.

For the miscelaneous (did I spell tha right?) subject look in the Coffee Break Threads. If you don't find one that fits, start your own...we'll jump in.I, too, liked Long Beach airport. It had a "friendly" feel to it. In the 70's when I practically commuted there, the baggage handlers were a lot more considerate of checked luggage, since you could get off the plane and watch them unload the baggage before going into the terminal.

:topic: I made it a point on one visit to drive straight from Long Beach Airport to go see Cal Worthington (of the infamous car commercials) and was bitterly disappointed that he was nowhere on the premises. My favorite commercial of his was, "This is my dog, Spot. (with a giant bear on a leash)" Johnny Carson used to do a wicked takeoff on Cal and his commercials.

:topic: :topic: miscellaneous (two L's)

Randy,

No one has posted when they are available to meet. I am open all week.

I think Cari is off work this week.

What time are you landing at DFW tonight?

Cindy

The plane lands about 4PM. I'll be at the hotel about 5:30. I'm fixin' to bail from the house in an hour or so to head to the airport.

Randy,

Care to meet before you check in? I am five minutes from the airport and there is a very nice restaurant close by and the express way is just up the road?

Cindy

I've got a limo guy who's meeting me in the airport for the trip to Troy. Sorry...

Randy,

Okay

We will have to see when everyone else can meet.

Limo guy?

Cindy

Randy,

Okay

We will have to see when everyone else can meet.

Limo guy?

Cindy

Unfortunately, it appears my dance card it full this week. I will be traveling from Jonesville (Hillsdale County) to Port Huron, and all stops in between! :nope:

Anybody else?

Sorry that you cannot make it Dave.

Cindy

[QUOTE=Wes Bucey]Sure! Give us some details. Where you staying? What are you in town for - audit or conference or family?

I will be in town the evenings of 21/22 April, at the Hampton Inn North Shore, 5201 Old Orchard Road. You can see it from the freeway (or is it toll road at that point?) and they have a fair restaurant in the lower level.....good place to meet.

Hershal

Randy,

I'm in Ohio today but I'll be back in Troy tomorrow (Wednesday). I'll see you tomorrow, I'll stop in on my way home.

Randy and Stew

If you two want company let me know what time.

Cindy

I will be in town the evenings of 21/22 April, at the Hampton Inn North Shore, 5201 Old Orchard Road. You can see it from the freeway (or is it toll road at that point?) and they have a fair restaurant in the lower level.....good place to meet. HershalYes. a nice place (http://www.hamptonsuitesskokie.com/)
Wednesday, April 21, is my most likely target date. I'll clear my calendar for the entire evening (that's what VCR's are for, right?) Anybody else want to visit with Hershal Brewer, the reigning guru of Metrology?

Hey Stew that's cool....I'll be here from 5:30 on....

Chicky babes are always welcome Cindy ;)

Hey Stew we missed you last night. Hope everything is well.

I had the pleasure of meeting Randy Daily! And it was a pleasure.

I arrived shortly after 5:30 dressed in appropriate attire (disappearing cloak, etc. just in case Randy was embarrassed to be seen with me). Asked at the desk where Fitzgerald’s was and the clerk immediately asked if I was there to meet Randy Daily. Randy really has a lot of fans. After a security check to ensure I was not carrying weapons of mass destruction, I was greeted by Randy. We ate, drank and talked (not necessarily in that order). Randy was good about my appearance and took it like a champ. He asked me cover my face while we ate so he would not get an upset stomach. I understand Randy, don’t worry and I am looking into that mask idea you had. We were interrupted only four times by fans. We probably would have had more interruptions but Randy beat them with his bat and they stayed bowed at his feet.

And I do apologize for being such a lush too. Next time I won’t drink so much. I could not help myself after you told me that you had a $200 bar allowance; I saw your beer and had to drink it, I saw my beer and had to drink it. If the waiter did not bring 6 bottles at a time I could have walked out on my own. After a couple of hours (time flew by) it was time for me head home, we said our good-by’s (all three Randy’s and myself). Thanks for the limo ride home Randy.

Did you talk to your boss about the increase in the bar allowance? :D When you visit Romulus, the limo driver can be the designated driver again….

At any rate, I enjoyed your company and look forward to our new meet.

Good luck with that secret project!

Cindy

Cindy, Cindy
What a hoot! You should write for Saturday Night Live :applause:

Its true, all of it, just as Randy. :nope:

Cindy is a trip, and I am not the lush she has made me out to be. As for having fans...it's all so very true. I am just a nice guy who waits for the groupies to happen :lmao:

Should have been there Stew...I was buying!!!

Randy,

I made myself out the lush not you..........

Cindy

Lush or luscious? ;)

Lush :o

Why else would I make my own wine? So I can drink it as fast as I make it.

Wes,

I get in town....if the plane is on time....around 7:30 pm, so I expect to get to the hotel 8:30-9 pm.

Cell phone is 909-326-5216. I use it for work too, so OK to call.

Hershal

Hershal,

Be careful meeting with Wes...the guy is a one man roadshow and an absolute trip...so if you're an "A" personality, forget it ;)

Wes and I met last night for a couple of hours and had a great time doing the guy thing in the hotel pub where I'm at. Great conversation, some "majical" entertainment, and fairly good pizza contributed to the evening.

Wes and I are bud's now :D

Hershal,

Be careful meeting with Wes...the guy is a one man roadshow and an absolute trip...so if you're an "A" personality, forget it ;)

Wes and I met last night for a couple of hours and had a great time doing the guy thing in the hotel pub where I'm at. Great conversation, some "majical" entertainment, and fairly good pizza contributed to the evening.

Wes and I are bud's now :DAll just a result of being with a fellow "big person." I assure you the feeling is mutual.:agree:
:magic: Thaumaturgy or magic or majik - whatever it's called, is always a fun icebreaker! At least the bar attendant was impressed.:rolleyes:

:biglaugh: Randy was a great host - he (or his employer for the day) bought dinner and drinks :thanx: and allowed me to tip our long-suffering bar attendant, Kimberly.
If you had driven up, as I suggested, Marc, you could have gotten at least a free drink and lots of sympathy for your travails. My round trip was about 140 miles (Randy was two counties over from me.)

Wes,

I get in town....if the plane is on time....around 7:30 pm, so I expect to get to the hotel 8:30-9 pm.

Cell phone is 909-326-5216. I use it for work too, so OK to call.

HershalOK. Hershal is also a busy road warrior like Randy. I caught him by phone at DFW, waiting for a plane to Toronto. After a night and day in Toronto, he flies to Chicago late Wednesday. Dinner is tentative Thursday evening at his hotel in Skokie. Anyone able to join us?

I'm not a road warrior :horse: like some, so I lack essential equipment such as mobile computing power.

So, as I am going to be in beautiful downtown Milwaukee (Thursday afternoon through Sunday morning and without a car) I will be offline and out of touch with respect to the Cove. But if I happen to run into anyone ...

See y'all next week (except for jstain who will be at the same place as me). (Does that really count as "running in to" another Cover?)

It's going to be chilly to a guy from Georgia. High temp will only be in low to middle 50's, overnight lows in the middle 30's (maybe even some frost.)
Going to drop in on ASQ while you're there?

Make sure you see the museum on the lakefront that looks like an ultra-modern sailing ship. Almost as cool as the opera house in the harbor in Australia.
For a hoot - be sure to find and drink in the Safehouse http://www.safe-house.com/

-Wes
I'm not a road warrior :horse: like some, so I lack essential equipment such as mobile computing power.

So, as I am going to be in beautiful downtown Milwaukee (Thursday afternoon through Sunday morning and without a car) I will be offline and out of touch with respect to the Cove. But if I happen to run into anyone ...

See y'all next week (except for jstain who will be at the same place as me). (Does that really count as "running in to" another Cover?)

Wes,

I really enjoyed meeting and talking with you this evening. I learned quite a bit.

Graeme,

I'm sorry I missed you........I expect to be in Atlanta in the next couple of months........

Hershal

Wes,

I really enjoyed meeting and talking with you this evening. I learned quite a bit.

Graeme,

I'm sorry I missed you........I expect to be in Atlanta in the next couple of months........

HershalOf course, what Hershal fails to mention is that Chicago made him feel just like he was home - a giant traffic jam on the freeway next to his hotel! Oh yes, I was caught in that traffic jam - it took 25 minutes to go the last mile to his exit.

When I got there, though, the conversation was nonstop (well - bathroom breaks) for 4-1/2 hours.

It's going to be chilly to a guy from Georgia. High temp will only be in low to middle 50's, overnight lows in the middle 30's (maybe even some frost.)
Going to drop in on ASQ while you're there?

Make sure you see the museum on the lakefront that looks like an ultra-modern sailing ship. Almost as cool as the opera house in the harbor in Australia.
For a hoot - be sure to find and drink in the Safehouse http://www.safe-house.com/

-WesWes,

Sorry, the office has been overloading me since I got back. Actually, it is refreshing for me to go to Milwauke (in spring/summer/autumn) in order to get back down to comfortable temperatures. Yes, I've been in Georgia for 5 years and South Carolina for 20+ years before that -- but I was born in England and grew up there and in Canada, Colorado and Alaska. Add in working in a calibration lab for over 20 years ... in my body's opinion anything over 25 C and 50% humidity is unfit for human habitation. Mr. Carrier's invention of air conditioning is a wonderful thing.

The purpose of the trip was to spend two days at the ASQ offices, working on Certified Calibration Technician exam questions.

Thanks for the picture, and particularly its caption. I've seen that building every time I have been there, from the window of the airport shuttle, and I had yet to find out what it was!

I've heard of the safe-house but have not had a chance to go yet ... is it within walking distance of ASQ?

(BTW, Chicago traffic is not worse than Atlanta traffic, there's just more of it.)

Graeme

Wes,

Sorry, the office has been overloading me since I got back. Actually, it is refreshing for me to go to Milwauke (in spring/summer/autumn) in order to get back down to comfortable temperatures. Yes, I've been in Georgia for 5 years and South Carolina for 20+ years before that -- but I was born in England and grew up there and in Canada, Colorado and Alaska. Add in working in a calibration lab for over 20 years ... in my body's opinion anything over 25 C and 50% humidity is unfit for human habitation. Mr. Carrier's invention of air conditioning is a wonderful thing.

The purpose of the trip was to spend two days at the ASQ offices, working on Certified Calibration Technician exam questions.

Thanks for the picture, and particularly its caption. I've seen that building every time I have been there, from the window of the airport shuttle, and I had yet to find out what it was!

I've heard of the safe-house but have not had a chance to go yet ... is it within walking distance of ASQ?

(BTW, Chicago traffic is not worse than Atlanta traffic, there's just more of it.)

GraemeI have to dig out a map myself to check proximity of Safehouse to ASQ. Why not try Mapquest in the meantime? Plot the two addresses, ASQ and Safehouse.

Even I haven't been inside the art museum, yet. It is on my schedule for this summer (only a 90 minute drive, including finding parking, from home.)

I have to dig out a map myself to check proximity of Safehouse to ASQ. Why not try Mapquest in the meantime? Plot the two addresses, ASQ and Safehouse.

Even I haven't been inside the art museum, yet. It is on my schedule for this summer (only a 90 minute drive, including finding parking, from home.)Safehouse is just east of the river and one block north of ASQ. Plankinton runs north and south on west side of river, ASQ is
American Society for Quality
600 North Plankinton Avenue
Front street is short street on east side of river and runs north and south in 700 block.
Safe House is (http://www.safe-house.com (http://www.safe-house.com/)) My pledge to get in:
To the best of my cunning capabilities, I will tell no one that the stately office of International Exports, Ltd. (est. 1868) at 779 North Front Street, is in fact a craftily contrived "front" for the Safe House.

THEN. . .(from ASQ)
On Plankinton Ave, head north two blocks to Wells St. Turn right on Wells and continue over the bridge one block to Water Street. Parking lots in the area are shown at Parkmilwaukee.com (http://65.110.80.203/parking/map.cfm?method=static&map=east). You're on your own from here.

Psst! If you've been followed, . . . SHAKE YOUR TAIL! and stealthily slip into the distinguished office of International Exports Ltd. through the red door beneath the gas lights. (use full screen view to get clear GIF of map)