According to http://www.iaob.org/certif_bodies/isots02_usa.shtml#, the IATF cancelled the contract with ZSQ, a German Registrar for ISO/TS-16949:2002 certifications.

Very interesting - I wonder why they would do that this late in the game. I may be wrong but I was thinking they were one of the early ones.

Dave

I think there was a statement there that the IAFT was excluding the semi-conductor systems.

I think there was a statement there that the IAFT was excluding the semi-conductor systems.If you or your organization currently does business with, or is contemplating doing business with, ZSQ, then it seems to me fair to go straight to the horse's mouth and ask them WHY they were "canceled."
ZSQ

Zertifizierungsstelle für Qualitätsmanagementsysteme
des Kraftfahrt-Bundesamtes


Postfach 12 01 53
01002 Dresden
Germany

Contact : Dr. Frank Uhlemann

Tel : +49 351 473 85 23
Fax : +49 351 473 85 36

E-mail : zsq@kba.de (zsq@kba.de)
Internet : www.kba.de (http://www.kba.de/)

My German is absolutely lousy after forty years of rust, but I sure didn't see any mention of this cancellation on the ZSQ website.

If you or your organization currently does business with, or is contemplating doing business with, ZSQ, then it seems to me fair to go straight to the horse's mouth and ask them WHY they were "canceled."
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][color=#327ec0][size=3][font=Verdana][size=2][color=#000000]My German is absolutely lousy after forty years of rust, but I sure didn't see any mention of this cancellation on the ZSQ website.
My German is in a little bit more fresh condition. ;)
In "Aktuelles" I read:
New tasks we take and economical conditions requiring, KBA and its Certification department have to concentrate on its main duties:
- certification of car and car parts manufacturers according to ISO 9001:2000 ...
...
That's why KBA at beginning of this year decided to not continue in certification according to QS-9000 and ISO/TS 16949:2002.

I don't find any "IATF punishment" behind it, but should I?

:lmao:

"certification of car and car parts manufacturers according to ISO 9001:2000"

16949 and QS ARE the automotive systems. I am not one of their customers but it makes me wonder. I guess maybe I am just nosey.

Dave

I know, there are car parts manufacturers, which start from ISO and then go to TS2.
Simply, they want go this way, because their customers do not require TS2.

I find it as PR-leaded information, so it is formulated in "possitive" way.

Heard that there is another German CB operating in Malaysia whom have provided inhouse training for the internal auditors after being audited for ISO/TS 16949 Initial Auidt yet was scotch-free.....

Yet there is another German CB whom have been providing consultancy and training under the same corporate body and no actions have been taken...