hi guys,
i have been trying for a long time to find a way to this but...well let me just ask this.is there someone
who can tell me
1) if a drawing(mechanical ) is upto the standards?
2)if ASME y14.5m can is used to get iso approval ?
3)if so does anyone have a hard/soft copy of it?

thank you

hi guys,
i have been trying for a long time to find a way to this but...well let me just ask this.is there someone
who can tell me
1) if a drawing(mechanical ) is upto the standards?
2)if ASME y14.5m can is used to get iso approval ?
3)if so does anyone have a hard/soft copy of it?

thank you There is no requirement to use that standard.
Regarding item 3, see this post http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=65461&postcount=3

hi guys,
i have been trying for a long time to find a way to this but...well let me just ask this.is there someone
who can tell me
1) if a drawing(mechanical ) is upto the standards?
2)if ASME y14.5m can is used to get iso approval ?
3)if so does anyone have a hard/soft copy of it?

thank youLast question first - the policy of the Cove is NOT to transmit copies of copyrighted documents - this is a legal issue.

This Standard is available for sale at numerous places, especially the ASME website asme.org (http://www.asme.org/)Google for more options.
Description:
The following products are contained in this package:

#N00594 Y14.5M 1994- Dimensioning and Tolerancing

#N13294 Y14.5.1M 1994- Mathematical Definition of Dimensioning and Tolerancing Principles
List Price: $135.00
ASME Order #: YX1494Except for customer specification or just plain ease of adopting an existing Standard, there is no requirement for using or adopting an existing Standard about Engineering Drawings (See also ASME Y14.100-2000, ASME Y14.35M-1997, ASME Y14.34M-1998)

See my reply to a previous question of yours http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=83313&postcount=3 (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=83313&postcount=3)

Any organization may create and use its own organization-specific Standard. This does create complications when issuing a drawing to a supplier because you have to supply the supplier (I meant that word play) with a complete copy of your organization-specific Standard so he can understand exactly what you want.

In normal practice, the author of an engineering drawing adds a note to the drawing explaining what Standard he has followed in preparing the drawing and therefore what Standard should be used in interpreting the drawing.

To my knowledge, there is absolutely no connection between ISO conformance or registration and the fact that an organization follows or does not follow the ASME Standard for dimensioning and tolerancing. For example, a call center can be registered to ISO9001:2000 - what need does it have for geometric dimensioning and tolerancing in its operation?

http://elsmar.com/Forums/images/smilies/offtopic-d2.gif You wrote: "i have been trying for a long time to find a way to this but...well let me just ask this. . . ."
Where on earth were you looking? Who were you asking?

1) if a drawing(mechanical ) is upto the standards?
The standard is defined in the document it self.

2)if ASME y14.5m can is used to get iso approval ?
No requirment to use Geometric dimensioning and tolerancing.It is becoming a managment tool (referncece 14.5) because of the world embracing quality. (ISO 9001:1994)

3)if so does anyone have a hard/soft copy of it?
Can't do it. However thousands of songs can be downloaded for free on other pirate sites.

Easy guys...

Info Brief:

Dimensioning & Tolerancing ASME Y14.5M-1994
published by ASME, 232pp., 1995, ISBN: 0791822230

The ASME Y.14.5M-1994 Standard on Dimensioning and tolerancing is a revision of the ANSI Y14.5M, 1982 Standard and contains the extensive changes, improvements and enhancements to the 1982 Standard.

By the way, I saw an in-house laboratory cited for having some illustrations from the 1984 version posted in the laboratory as 'reference'. Auditor wrote up a minor saying if they're going to post a reference document it has to be of the latest revision...

By the way, I saw an in-house laboratory cited for having some illustrations from the 1984 version posted in the laboratory as 'reference'. Auditor wrote up a minor saying if they're going to post a reference document it has to be of the latest revision...
LOL!!!!

That's a good one!!

Well, the auditor had a point, but the illustrations were not affected in the 1994 version. There was some chat and the sad thing was the decision was to just take them down and not replace them. I can't say they were really 'needed', but they were nice to have there.

oh, well. They're gone now!

Well, the auditor had a point, but the illustrations were not affected in the 1994 version. There was some chat and the sad thing was the decision was to just take them down and not replace them. I can't say they were really 'needed', but they were nice to have there.

oh, well. They're gone now!See. Pragmatist that I am, I would have typed a note "Illustrations reaffirmed in version ______"; taped it to the bottom of each illustration and left the da** thing up. Some third party auditors have such unfounded and unnecessary interpretations, one has to wonder if they need retraining at the end of the week to find their way home from an assignment.

I'd like to take that segment of the population through a complete course on understanding the fundamentals of Configuration Management.

sorry guys for the third question but does any one know what it contains??main points...synopsis...guidelines...etc
:bonk:

It's the GD&T standard. It tells you things like how to calculate true position. You can draw an engineering drawing in accordance with this standard - it has nothing to do with registering your company to ISO9001:2000.

is there an ISO equivalent for Y14.5M?

the whole story,
our company is a small manufacturing firm and we are implementing ISO 9000 .i am implementing the ISO standards for the drawings in our company.our drawings are internal use only.we follow the ISO standards for tolerance and title block,materials etc.i wanted to know if there are any other specific standards to be adhered to while doing so.i have seen standards for lines ,sections ,cuts,CAD systems and for storage of the control files.but each of these standard costs around $50 and my boss told me that he is not ready to buy them.our CAD department is basically a one man department!!!are all those other standards really required?.does any one know??
thanks
david

the whole story,
our company is a small manufacturing firm and we are implementing ISO 9000 .i am implementing the ISO standards for the drawings in our company.our drawings are internal use only.we follow the ISO standards for tolerance and title block,materials etc.i wanted to know if there are any other specific standards to be adhered to while doing so.i have seen standards for lines ,sections ,cuts,CAD systems and for storage of the control files.but each of these standard costs around $50 and my boss told me that he is not ready to buy them.our CAD department is basically a one man department!!!are all those other standards really required?.does any one know??
thanks
davidAlmost all CAD systems adhere to the ASME Standards. Ergo, using a lot of the system defaults would leave your system adhering to the Standard.

The primary Standards you want to follow are the ones used on outgoing documents, not on your internal processes.

No one cares about your title block size or location on the page. They are more interested in whether your tolerances are noted and consistent. Do you use a three decimal dimension just because the CAD system automatically puts it in when your tolerance is really only one decimal? The ultimate criterion should be whether an outsider is able to interpret the drawing to mean what you intended it to mean. If you use a material or plating callout, ensure the supplier has a copy of that spec. If unsure, supply the spec as part of the supporting documents. (some folks still use DOD and MIL STD specs when they've been obsolete for years.)

If you have an old copy of MIL STD 100 (E, F, or G), you'll have 90 per cent of the ASME Standards because ASME broke that Standard into several specialized Standards but didn't change anything substantial. ISO allows you to create your own drawing Standard or adopt anyone else's Standard. It does not dictate what to use.