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View Full Version : EN 10204 Clause 3.1B - Definition, Summary and Form


RCBeyette
8th September 2004, 05:16 PM
Just received an email indicating that we needed to provide a letter indicating that we meet the requirements of EN-10204, 3.1B.

Sooooo.....can anyone out there shed some light on what EN-10204, 3.1B is?

Thanks in advance!

Al Rosen
8th September 2004, 05:28 PM
Just received an email indicating that we needed to provide a letter indicating that we meet the requirements of EN-10204, 3.1B.

Sooooo.....can anyone out there shed some light on what EN-10204, 3.1B is?

Thanks in advance! the title of that documenty is
METALLIC PRODUCTS - TYPES OF INSPECTION DOCUMENTS

This may provide a clue to the specific requirement
EN-10204 Certificates.pdf (http://mdmetric.com/fastindx/t88u.pdf)

BadgerMan
8th September 2004, 05:29 PM
http://webstore.ansi.org/ansidocstore/product.asp?sku=DIN+EN+10204

DIN EN 10204:

Inspection documents for metallic products (includes Amendment A1:1995) (FOREIGN STANDARD)
Abstract: This document defines the different types of inspection documents supplied to the purchaser, in accordance with the requirements of the order, for the delivery of all metallic products whatever their method of production.

Al Rosen
8th September 2004, 06:18 PM
Just received an email indicating that we needed to provide a letter indicating that we meet the requirements of EN-10204, 3.1B.

Sooooo.....can anyone out there shed some light on what EN-10204, 3.1B is?

Thanks in advance! EN 10204 3.1B Test Certificate Sample (http://www.andrewsfasteners.co.uk/Sample%20Test%20Certificate.pdf)

RCBeyette
9th September 2004, 08:57 AM
Thanks, Al and Badgerman! Having *finally* reached someone in our QC department, I was told that we have, in the past, added a line to our product certificate indicating the compliance with EN10204 (similar to what was shown in Al's sample).

skumar
24th October 2005, 05:10 AM
Please be informed that in recent change of EN 10204:2004, the earlier called type 3.1.B certificate in now type 3.1 certificate.

Earlier types 3.1A, 3.1.C and 3.2 are now replaced by 3.2

sandeep-kumar

alekra
24th October 2005, 09:09 PM
Please be informed that in recent change of EN 10204:2004, the earlier called type 3.1.B certificate in now type 3.1 certificate.


That absolutely correct: the 2004 version of the EN 10204 has changed the titles of the certificates... But the information inside them remains the same, at least in the 3.1 type.

The above model can be followed.

Chrisqa
27th October 2005, 06:11 PM
Howdy!

I am in the same situation: I have been requested to supply a EN 10204 3.1 Certificate and I am looking for additional examples or templates for such a Certificate 3.1 EN 10204.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris
:)

alekra
27th October 2005, 07:13 PM
Hi,
You can follow the 3.1 B example given above, the template and format of 3.1 B "outdated" is the same as 3.1 "updated".

todd wise
26th April 2006, 06:14 PM
Please be informed that in recent change of EN 10204:2004, the earlier called type 3.1.B certificate in now type 3.1 certificate.

Earlier types 3.1A, 3.1.C and 3.2 are now replaced by 3.2

sandeep-kumar

where is this change information located?

todd wise
26th April 2006, 06:17 PM
what website or book can I refer to support this change for my customer?
Thanks
Todd

Al Rosen
26th April 2006, 06:51 PM
what website or book can I refer to support this change for my customer?
Thanks
ToddI suggest you get a copy of the latest revision of the standard. Otherwise, you can infer it from these documents or try GOOGLE!

skumar
27th April 2006, 02:14 AM
where is this change information located?

Look at following link for information on changes

http://www.qualitytimes.co.in/bs_en_iso_10204_2004.htm

Regards

interprokat
12th June 2008, 10:25 AM
if some body have this EN 10204 stdd I need the description of.
Please

Stijloor
12th June 2008, 11:56 AM
if some body have this EN 10204 stdd I need the description of.
Please

Descriptions and info here (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=EN+10204+&btnG=Google+Search). At least a start.

Welcome the The Cove Forums! :bigwave: :bigwave:

Stijloor.

asizemore
9th July 2008, 10:26 AM
Is ISO 9001 certification required before a company can claim EN10204-3.1 on a MTR?

alekra
9th July 2008, 08:04 PM
No, itīs a customer requirement that should be analysed by the vendor, independent if the company is ISO 9000 certifyied or not. If it is certifyied the customer could have a guaranty that the requirement will be fulfilled.

Regards!

Engr.gauravnarula
22nd October 2008, 10:53 AM
How can I get free downloads for the same !!

Stijloor
22nd October 2008, 11:06 AM
How can I get free downloads for the same !!

These are likely copyrighted materials.

The expectation here at The Cove Forums is that such materials may not be requested/shared.

Stijloor.

freecitizen
6th May 2009, 10:47 PM
It appears that most manufacturers nowadays are complying with this specification and are quaoting this compliance in their certificates. If you want to sell to Europe, you got to have it.

cabdriver
20th October 2009, 05:34 AM
Hi,
My customer demand that we present to him certificate (coils) according EN 10204 Clause 3.1B (we aare still in sampling phase-VDA 6.3.), but my supplier does it only acc. EN 10204 Clause 2.2.
Does anyone knows what are detailed differences between this two?
I have read the Norm and the main point is in specific and non-specific inspection ?

Regards
Igor

Jim Wynne
22nd October 2009, 11:30 AM
Hi,
My customer demand that we present to him certificate (coils) according EN 10204 Clause 3.1B (we aare still in sampling phase-VDA 6.3.), but my supplier does it only acc. EN 10204 Clause 2.2.
Does anyone knows what are detailed differences between this two?
I have read the Norm and the main point is in specific and non-specific inspection ?

Regards
Igor

I assume from your question that you don't have a copy of the standard in question. Surely your supplier, if he's certifying, has a copy? In any case, if your customer is demanding certification to a standard, you need to have a current copy of it.