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Old 24th January 2018, 08:36 AM
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Hi, QMS consultant looking for recommendations on ISO 9001:2015 Implementation Packages/Templates. I have a manufacturing/repair depot client starting from scratch. I have used these packages before as a starting point on other implementation projects to save a lot of admin work with good results. The last time I bought any was ~2012 so I was hoping for recommendations. Thanks!!
I'd be very careful about such things. Someone writing a bunch of documentation for things which a) the ISO 9001 doesn't actually require and (more importantly) b) the organization hasn't understood if they NEED documentation - is, in my 30+ years of implementation - a VERY dangerous thing to do, unless you wish to create a monster and then feed it. Let's not overlook that the TC 176 folks have reduced the requirements for documentation, leaving it to the organization to decide. Also, I've not once seen a package that doesn't need significant rewriting/edits to get the template to a place where it actually reflects what's done. I'd suggest saving your money, do as Marc suggests and search the Cove for things which might work and retain the services of a good consultant to help. "Silver bullets" don't work.

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Old 30th January 2018, 12:38 PM
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 Implementation Packages

Hi David

I am unable to PM you, due to being too new. Will you please share the link with me as well?

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Old 30th January 2018, 02:01 PM
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ISO 9000 Store | Free ISO 9001 2008 Training and Standards should have a "canned" package which will suit your needs.

Do see AndyN's post above re: caution.
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Old 30th January 2018, 06:52 PM
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Hi David

I am unable to PM you, due to being too new. Will you please share the link with me as well?

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Old 4th February 2018, 06:16 AM
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Good morning David!

Can I also have the link to your package please?

TIA
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Old 4th February 2018, 08:11 AM
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Good morning David!

Can I also have the link to your package please?

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Old 4th February 2018, 06:40 PM
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Not sure what you are saying but System Development requires a lot of clerical admin time. So how do you want to eliminate clerical work?

I though you were looking for templates that would required minor adjustment to meet the standard and customer requirements.

They usually eliminate about 70 to 80 percent of your clerical time.
When you have to take what others have written, and rewrite/edit it, which has created a bureaucracy of documentation and isn't necessary, including content and numbering systems which require administrative burden to maintain, there's often an admin burden which is created by using "templates". Worse, the people adopting this approach have little/no clue if what's in the template is actually required or just someone's ideas based on little actual experience of running a QMS, and only what gets by an auditor. Two very different scenarios...
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Old 4th February 2018, 09:03 PM
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As long as people mistake documentation for systems, they will never see the light.

Especially, when they seek documentation that has nothing to do with the organization's business processes. Archaic approaches being perpetuated, valuelessly.

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