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Old 1st March 2018, 02:10 AM
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Please Help! QMS and ISO - Where to start?

Hi - I've been tasked with introducing a QMS to our organisation, I attended the ISO9001:2015 course, but right now I have a lot of terms and ideas running around in my head and no idea where to start! Also with no prior experience!

Any suggestions? I am starting with nothing! Yes we have processes in some departments, but not a lot else!

Any tips on where to start would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 1st March 2018, 02:19 AM
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re: QMS and ISO - Where to start?

Here are some existing discussions for you:

Implementing ISO 9001

Also, an oldie but goodie: Implementing An ISO 9001 Quality Management System

1. Read the standard, front to back.

2. Do a comprehensive gap analysis.
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Old 1st March 2018, 02:31 AM
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Re: QMS and ISO - Where to start?

Thanks Marc!

Maybe I am over complicating it! I have been doing a lot of google searches thinking it would help (this is how I came across this forum) - I have found at least one of those links you've suggested!

Appreciate your prompt and helpful response!
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Old 1st March 2018, 02:56 AM
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Re: QMS and ISO - Where to start?

It's a relatively simple process, but like anything else, when starting from scratch and no knowledge it takes some time to learn.

I was brief in my response because implementing a QMS has been discussed here many times.

If/when you have more specific questions, don't hesitate to ask.
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Old 1st March 2018, 03:39 AM
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Yin Yang Re: QMS and ISO - Where to start?

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In Reply to Parent Post by Ren33 View Post

Hi - I've been tasked with introducing a QMS to our organisation, I attended the ISO9001:2015 course, but right now I have a lot of terms and ideas running around in my head and no idea where to start! Also with no prior experience!

Any suggestions? I am starting with nothing! Yes we have processes in some departments, but not a lot else!

Any tips on where to start would be greatly appreciated!
Ren,

Welcome to the Cove!

You may have more than you realize.

Study how your organization works as a system interacting with its customers and suppliers to convert customer needs into cash.

Start by appreciating what your organization already does so your colleagues can see that you respect what they do.

Do not read the standard in isolation and then write your procedures to impose on the organization. Seek to understand the processes from the experts; the people who actually do the work.

Your ISO 9001 training should have taught you the differences between processes and their procedures. Processes are work and procedures are specified ways of doing the work.

Many procedures are undocumented but may benefit from being documented to some extent. Helping your colleagues to understand and agree the extent of documentation that is useful to prevent problems while realizing process objectives is key.

So, what is the purpose of your organization?

John
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Old 1st March 2018, 09:45 AM
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Re: QMS and ISO - Where to start?

Since you have never done it, you may want to find a cheap canned system that you can work off of. I wouldnt just implement it but use it as a reference to work your own system. I think it will help the learning curve.
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Old 1st March 2018, 11:45 AM
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Hi - I've been tasked with introducing a QMS to our organisation, I attended the ISO9001:2015 course, but right now I have a lot of terms and ideas running around in my head and no idea where to start! Also with no prior experience!

Any suggestions? I am starting with nothing! Yes we have processes in some departments, but not a lot else!

Any tips on where to start would be greatly appreciated!
Find a mentor. Someone who has done this before, not necessarily a consultant, (a QM from a supplier or similar) can be very useful.
Thanks to AndyN for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 1st March 2018, 11:46 AM
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Since you have never done it, you may want to find a cheap canned system that you can work off of. I wouldnt just implement it but use it as a reference to work your own system. I think it will help the learning curve.
Based on what I've seen people go through for ISO 9001:2008, using this stuff, I'd avoid them like the plague!
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