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View Poll Results: Causes of Employee Turnover - Your Opinion (Multiple Choice)
Pay Rate (Wages) 17 53.13%
Benefits such as Healthcare 9 28.13%
Benefits such as Childcare 0 0%
Working Conditions 19 59.38%
Work Hours 8 25.00%
Cafeteria or Breakroom 0 0%
Management Attitude and Related Aspects (Company Culture) 27 84.38%
Company Location 5 15.63%
Career Development Opportunities 11 34.38%
Recognition of Personal Achievements 8 25.00%
Advancement Opportunities 10 31.25%
Training Aspects 2 6.25%
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Old 29th June 2018, 10:18 AM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

Thanks for initiating the poll Marc. According to Forbes magazine (and consistent with other polls I have seen over the years)...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobmo.../#4774ff065afa
Several other studies have also emerged around what employees care about at work but the most recent one from Boston Consulting Group which surveyed over 200,000 people around the world is one of the most comprehensive. Unlike previous studies which may point to flexibility or salary as the top factor for job happiness, BCG found that the #1 factor for employee happiness on the job is get appreciated for their work!

The top 10 factors are:

Appreciation for your work
Good relationships with colleagues
Good work-life balance
Good relationships with superiors
Company's financial stability
Learning and career development
Job security
Attractive fixed salary
Interesting job content
Company values
BCG grouped their 26 factors (in their full report) in several categories and the top ones were "work environment" or "job content and opportunities."


I have BOLDED the ones that my experiences have shown as key.

Be well.

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Old 29th June 2018, 10:24 AM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

Wow...tempted to choose all of them EXCEPT for training.
...and so many (unavoidably) overlap...
Healthcare Benefit = Wages (in my view)
Advancement = more wages
Location and pay have historically been the largest factors for me...with first shift being a sine qua non.
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Old 29th June 2018, 10:34 AM
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Isn't "Advancement" more or less the same as "Career Development"?
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Old 29th June 2018, 10:54 AM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

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Isn't "Advancement" more or less the same as "Career Development"?
Well, the poll is set so... As I did the poll, I was thinking of people I knew and things I had seen and was thinking of them this way:

Advancement: Ascent in a company in a specific department and/or skill set.

Career Development: Cross training in various different departments, different skill sets and different location(s), when applicable. E.g.: A friend who is retired from P&G was transferred over the years to many different P&G locations around the world and was trained for many different positions. He ended up in top management but I forget what his title was when he retired.

But yes - I'm sure some will see them as the same.
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Old 29th June 2018, 10:56 AM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

So I think you're going to see a lot of management and highly educated/skilled people participating here and I think that will skew the overall concern of the OP who, it appears to be, hiring non or semi skilled labor.

Having been in hard manufacturing for my whole career in various sized organizations "culture" matters less to shop floor personnel than work environment and job security.

The highest turnover for labor was in the hottest/coldest/dirtiest places that did layoffs anytime the forecast looked down for the next month.

Where the highest turnover for professionals has been in places where the culture was at issue - cut throat competition, workaholics, unreasonable goals, understaffed, etc.
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Old 29th June 2018, 11:02 AM
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So I think you're going to see a lot of management and highly educated/skilled people participating here and I think that will skew the overall concern of the OP who, it appears to be, hiring non or semi skilled labor. <snip>
As an FYI here--> Current Elsmar visitor demographics according to Quantcast:


Yes, this poll will be skewed. We do not have the means to produce a truly scientific poll.
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Old 30th June 2018, 02:32 PM
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It kind of seems to me that you should do a cost analysis of the turnover - recruiting costs, training costs, production loss, reject rate - and see if that can rationalize the cost of making the work environment more bearable (installing AC or better air flow).
I agree this is not about training, but it would probably help a lot to bring people through the place on a tour and give them two or three days to think it over before making an offer.

Also, frank exit interviews are important. Ask about working conditions, both physical and mental. Ask if higher pay would have made the difference, and if so how much. It is important to fix this thing before your organization gets a reputation as a difficult place to work, which would keep good people away.

I think employers very often do not realize how high turnover costs are. It is money better spent to improve the business and/or share the business's success with the people who make it happen. I put a Productivity Cost Calculator in my Conquering Employee Turnover Costs thread. It may help to identify the cost of turnover and compare it against the cost of improving work environment or raising wages.

I hope this helps!
Thank You to Jen Kirley for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 6th July 2018, 03:48 AM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

I agree with a lot of what has been said about culture, pay and so on.
The OP did say that the interview process has been changed to include a walk of the floor and a warts and all demonstration of the workplace, so it seems that that is not part of the problem any more.
I think that the exit interviews would be a good starting point, in my experience ship floor workers are way more likely to be open and frank about reasons that they are leaving than are people who sit further up the company tree.

Other factors that I have seen in manufacturing are about location. One company I worked for moved about a half mile down the road and we lost a fair percentage of staff as there was no public transport, or hey had to walk a further 15 minuted to the factory and they just didn't see that they wanted to.

Another may be personalities, especially in a climate where unemployment is so low. Have a falling out with one of your co-workers and off you go to the next employer and s on.

Obviously it is not possible to know what the real root cause is until you have collected hard data from the leavers to make he changes.

Thank You to Ian_Morris for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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