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View Poll Results: Causes of Employee Turnover - Your Opinion (Multiple Choice)
Pay Rate (Wages) 17 53.13%
Benefits such as Healthcare 9 28.13%
Benefits such as Childcare 0 0%
Working Conditions 19 59.38%
Work Hours 8 25.00%
Cafeteria or Breakroom 0 0%
Management Attitude and Related Aspects (Company Culture) 27 84.38%
Company Location 5 15.63%
Career Development Opportunities 11 34.38%
Recognition of Personal Achievements 8 25.00%
Advancement Opportunities 10 31.25%
Training Aspects 2 6.25%
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Old 11th July 2018, 11:43 AM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

FYI - US Employment 2018: Job Quits Rate Hits 17-Year High; Labor Market Tightening

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Old 11th July 2018, 12:40 PM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

This is good news, no?
It is a sign of healthy competition for labor, which leads to better wages and working conditions for prospecting employees. Are there any down sides (aside from the employers who now have to strategize/negotiate on how to best retain workers)?
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Old 11th July 2018, 01:49 PM
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Well, time will tell. I can't think of any downsides. Best I can say is it sure sounds good for laborers.

Then again - Real wages haven't budged vs. real inflation for years and family debt burdens in the US are way, way up again. In addition, considering most new jobs are low wage jobs... I'll leave the current trade issues and their repercussions discussions to political sites.
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Old 12th July 2018, 07:52 AM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

We were having an issue with high temporary turnover. Different root cause as ours was our hiring practices. I agree with the others that likely training isn't your issue but most of the things that are being discussed can't be fixed over night. A thing we did for different reasons might help you out while you tackle the other issues. Our lean coordinator implemented the TWI (training within industry) method. Standard work is the key to using this method so if you don't have that yet it would be a big project. TWI is task specific training designed to get the employee working quickly. Designed for ramp ups during WWII.

My thought in suggesting is that even with the high turnover the people will be working productively before they quit. I am not recommending this as your fix, just your interim action (if you have the resources). It's also a good lean practice even if you don't have an issue. I can't post a link yet but you can google training within industry and find quite a bit of information.
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Old 12th July 2018, 10:17 AM
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We were having an issue with high temporary turnover. Different root cause as ours was our hiring practices. I agree with the others that likely training isn't your issue but most of the things that are being discussed can't be fixed over night. A thing we did for different reasons might help you out while you tackle the other issues. Our lean coordinator implemented the TWI (training within industry) method. Standard work is the key to using this method so if you don't have that yet it would be a big project. TWI is task specific training designed to get the employee working quickly. Designed for ramp ups during WWII.

My thought in suggesting is that even with the high turnover the people will be working productively before they quit. I am not recommending this as your fix, just your interim action (if you have the resources). It's also a good lean practice even if you don't have an issue. I can't post a link yet but you can google training within industry and find quite a bit of information.
There are a bunch of TWI videos on youtube.


Here's the classic... YouTube
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Old 12th July 2018, 10:29 PM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

devils advocate, of the 56% who stay, what roles are they filling? Is it role specific where turnover is? What's the difference between the 2 groups? No amount of training will ever rectify unhappiness or dissatisfaction. Is the role accurately described at the recruitment stage? At the end of the day no amount of money can make up for personal satisfaction which can be so easily compromised by management. What's that saying, "Good employees leave bad managers".
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Old 13th July 2018, 02:21 AM
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I don't see a correlation. The company I am in has a wonderful training program. People leave because of no work life balance. I stay because I refuse to get a 4 yr or masters degree at 50 needed to move to up the quality career ladder, I only have a 2 yr degree. I regularly have meetings from 630 to 800pm some as early as 630am. Besides my normal hours of 8 to 5. Traveling for the company on weekends is not considered working, yet somehow we meet EEIC and labor requirements. There is so much turnover in management that I have seen the same projects done over again by different managers, not knowing it was a repeated project. I think there was a comment about hunting and fishing. God forbid people be happy without material objects but there seems to be an awakening that time is more precious than money and I am glad to see it.

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Old 13th July 2018, 11:46 AM
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Re: So much turnover, How to improve our training process?

What Jack said.... The poll was interesting because while many noted that company culture and management attitude were vital, it was also admitted that this is one of the things that takes time for the new employee to determine. So while it may be vital, it is also most unknowable at time of hiring.
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