Originally posted by darwinbb:
In one or two statements please explain why you called QS-9000 a scam? My apologies here, I have not followed the arguments on this matter? Thanks
While Marc and I disagree on certain subjects, I agree that all of these standards/specifications/requirements etc... are dubious at the least.
While the companies dictate that we must do this, and this, and this.... they are creating self fullfilling prophecies that will lead to failure.
What is QS?
The automotive bastardization of a simple set of busines practices (ISO)
They can't even agree between themselves on how to interpret what they have mandated!
Ford accepts QS and TS but says we must be QOS.
Chrysler says we have to use their PSO, not APQP.
G.M. doesn't know what they require, at least when you talk with their SQA's.
Let's look at the basics:
If supplier #1 can give a customer a QS certificate and quote a price of $0.35 per part ... then supplier #2 (not QS registered/certified) gives the customer a price of $0.22 per part, who gets the business?
I think they would go with supplier #2.
Me jaded? Yes