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Do we need to comply with the requirements listed under the heading NOTE in the ISO/IEC 17025:2005?
DO we need to take it as it is or is there any ways we can avoid it or some of its part?

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Lightbulb Re: Do we need to the requirements listed under the heading NOTE

Greetings Amanbhai,

In my humble opinion, the notes are used as an explanation and guideline.
Especially in section 4.
In Section 5 our auditor liked our procedures to accommodate them.
When reading the standard, remember that it is a “one size fits all” standard for testing and calibration. You must make it fit your company.
There will be things that just don’t apply for which you must write an exclusion.
Don’t forget about the secondary key words found in the notes like “at a minimum”.
We found that rational, practical explanations, mostly written in our procedures but some verbal clarifications geared to our specific business, were accepted.
17025:2005 is a monumental task involving much “discussion” regarding “what does this mean?” and more importantly “what does this mean for us?”
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Re: Do we need to the requirements listed under the heading NOTE

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Do we need to comply with the requirements listed under the heading NOTE in the ISO/IEC 17025:2005?
DO we need to take it as it is or is there any ways we can avoid it or some of its part?
Check toward the introduction of the manual. If it's anything like the PPAP manual from AIAG, you might find something similar to their application, "Paragraphs marked 'NOTE' are for guidance in understanding or clarifying the associated requirement. The word 'should' appearning in a NOTE is for guidance only."

Remember as always, requirements are "shall" or "must", suggestions are "should" or "may".
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Re: Do we need to the requirements listed under the heading NOTE

As Dave said, notes do not contain requirements. Here's a quote from ISO 17025:2005:
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1.3 The notes given provide clarification of the text, examples and guidance. They do not contain requirements and do not form an integral part of this International Standard.
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Re: Do we need to the requirements listed under the heading NOTE

Amanbhai,

In general, the notes are not requirements.....however, your accrediting body may choose to elevate them to requirements BASED on circumstances and other relevant factors that are applicable to your lab.

Since you are in Canada, check with SCC and obtain their view on this.

www.scc.ca

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