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Old 28th July 2008, 08:27 AM
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Re: GM's RED X - Supposed to be a simple tool to find Root Cause

frankly speaking ,it's a comprehensive tool for solving problem rather than a sample tool .In my opinion there is a little complex.
I think the primary concept is that compare the WOW and BOB ,and find out the deverse then do some test .

WOW:worst of worst
BOB:best of best

I got a training before but I did't understand entirely.

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Old 9th September 2008, 12:30 PM
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Re: GM's RED X - Supposed to be a simple tool to find Root Cause

Hello, I have the RED X Master Certification, this technique was developed by Dorian Shainin not by GM, there are several companies that uses this methodology, unfortunately there is few bibliography for reference, one book is: "World Class Quality" using design of experiment to make it happen, Keki R. Bhote & Adi K. Bhote, second edition, AMACOM.
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Old 26th January 2009, 08:18 AM
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Re: GM's RED X - Supposed to be a simple tool to find Root Cause

Hello,

I am still interested in getting information about Red X or the implementation of the Red X (or Shainin methodology) at GM. Has anyone informations about the historical development of Red X? Who has applicate it first? Wasn´t it Toyota? Is it still in use at GM? How was ist implemented at GM?

I write a master thesis about these Quality tool for Opel in germany and I am happy about all information you can give me.

Thank you very much!
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Old 26th January 2009, 08:48 PM
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Re: GM's RED X - Supposed to be a simple tool to find Root Cause

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Hello,

I am still interested in getting information about Red X or the implementation of the Red X (or Shainin methodology) at GM. Has anyone informations about the historical development of Red X? Who has applicate it first? Wasn´t it Toyota? Is it still in use at GM? How was ist implemented at GM?

I write a master thesis about these Quality tool for Opel in germany and I am happy about all information you can give me.

Thank you very much!
Go to the source: Shainin

I met Richard Shainin (son of Dorian Shainin) a few years back at a conference. Nice guy, had some interesting thoughts on problem solving. If your looking to write a thesis, I would suggest using the advanced features on Google. Either the "Scholar search" or the advanced search features. For the advanced search, use the keywords but restrict the file types returned to either PDF, DOC or PPT. It helps remove some of the garbage.

Wayne
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Old 4th August 2009, 11:46 PM
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Re: GM's RED X - Supposed to be a simple tool to find Root Cause

I received my Journeyman certification in Shanin's Red X in 2004. I found the concept to be simpler than Six Sigma and derives the root cause in a more rapid and efficient manner. The course's location is in Michigan and is held for a week each time. The books for the course and software is provided when you attend the course. Overall, Red X is a good method and I wish more companies would incorporate it but only GM uses the method as of right now. Hope this helps
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Old 19th August 2009, 02:07 AM
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Re: GM's RED X - Supposed to be a simple tool to find Root Cause

'Rex X' system required in GM1927-3 Supplier Quality Statement Requirement
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Old 19th August 2009, 06:59 AM
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Re: GM's RED X - Supposed to be a simple tool to find Root Cause

Here is a link to GM 1927-3.

Note that the actual requirement is "Suppliers are required to demonstrate their capability to solve complex problems using advanced problem solving techniques such as the “Red X” system at GM - AVTOVAZ." (emphasis mine).

This means alternate methods such as 8D, Six Sigma or other techniques are also acceptable.
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Old 11th October 2011, 04:23 AM
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Re: GM's RED X - Supposed to be a simple tool to find Root Cause

in my opinion , each technology has own merit such as six sigma, Taguchi methods or Red-X.

we conducted some experiments to handle issues within company.

For instance, we utilized component search & paired comparison to identify significant factors rapidly by Red-X for solving illumination darkness of meters when worked at Calsonic Kansei. The tools are simple and efficient. To compare some difference between WOW &BOB.

We adopt Taguchi methods to decrease NTF rate at ICT station. Just you said , to utilize parameters design to calculate S/N ratio, two-step adjustment. You’d consider adding noise factors. To implement Taguchi , it takes a lot of time to conduct experiments.

Sampling size is so large, you need to understand advanced statistical knowledge. In brief , time is so long.


What’s more I read some Red-X cases about GM, I recommend you master some tools.
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