EASA Part 21 Subpart J – DOA - Here is my understanding of the DOA

[Michael_]

Angelika I thank you for your response.

I thought I had already done so, when some days ago I sent a response, ineffectively .

So you may get a DOA along with a Major Repair Design Approval for example. After that can I suppose that you can retain the DOA even if you dont have active project with EASA?

Actually is it possible for an organization to ask for a DOA wihout aiming to a certificate from EASA that has DOA as a prerequisite? Will EASA accept a request of this type?

Best Regards

Michael

[Angelika]

Michael, in the following please find my reply for you:

Originally Posted by Michael_

Angelika I thank you for your response.

I thought I had already done so, when some days ago I sent a response, ineffectively . No problem, we are all busy people, aren't we?

So you may get a DOA along with a Major Repair Design Approval for example. After that can I suppose that you can retain the DOA even if you dont have active project with EASA? Yes, as long as your organisation remains in compliance with Part 21 and fulfills its obligations. I don't know if there might be any problems if you do not have any projects for a very long period.

Actually is it possible for an organization to ask for a DOA wihout aiming to a certificate from EASA that has DOA as a prerequisite? Will EASA accept a request of this type?
I am not sure if I have correctly understood your question. My latest status of information is that you do not need to have an active project to apply for a DOA. If you meant something different, please let me know.

Best Regards

Michael

[Michael_]

Thank you Angelika once again,

Actually that is the question: "Is it required to have an active project in order to ask for an EASA Part 21 DOA. If yes what types of project can lead you there?". OK I have got the answer from you.

The first information I had was that you shall have an active project, which shall be a complete aircraft design, in order to discuss for a DOA.

It seems however that the DOA is not a standalone situation but a prerequisite to have the EASA approval on a specific product you create.

Best Regards

Michael

[Angelika]

Michael, please see my answers below:
Best regards,
Angelika

Originally Posted by Michael_

Thank you Angelika once again,

Actually that is the question: "Is it required to have an active project in order to ask for an EASA Part 21 DOA. If yes what types of project can lead you there?". OK I have got the answer from you.

The first information I had was that you shall have an active project, which shall be a complete aircraft design, in order to discuss for a DOA.

In Germany it used to be a requirement from the national aviation authority to have an active project that accompanied the DO-approval process, however, only within the extent of the requested scope (for example an STC for cabin interior etc.). The Agency recommends such an active project because it facilitates them to assess the competences of the organisation as to their knowledge of airworthiness requirements (Certification Specifications etc.) and design practices. However, as already mentioned, it is not an obligatory requirement by the Agency

It seems however that the DOA is not a standalone situation but a prerequisite to have the EASA approval on a specific product you create.
Yes, that's right"

Best Regards

Michael

[AlejandroR]

Hi everybody.

I have just found this topic by chance, I hope it is still active.

About the positions in the DOA. Angelika, are you sure that the HOD can not be the same person as the Aw Manager? I am not. Actually I knew a DOA where they wanted to distribute positions like that (I don't know if they did it at last). I agree with the independence of Quality department and separation of design and compliance verification, but at first sight I dont see any incompatibility between HOD and AwM. Where did you see it in part21?
I think I understood you know DOAs where the design manager is also CVE, is it right?

And at last, I think there is a sense to obtain DOA for a organisation which will not get any TC or STC: it is easier to work with them as subcontractors for bigger DOAs since its data are directly accepted by EASA, apart from this one I don´t see anymore.

Regards.