Stage 1 Audit Advice for a new Lead Auditor

[keres]

Hi!
I am in Lead Auditor training procedure and soon I will be perform my first Stage 1 audit.
Please, give me some advise how I to conduct the audit.

Thank all of you!

[Marc]

First of all - Which standard are you referring to? ISO 9001?

Are you saying that you have completed a Lead Auditor course and you want to know how to plan a Stage 1 Audit?

[keres]

The standard is ISO 9001:2008.
And this audit is a part of my training. I am not completed my training yet.

[Stijloor]

In Reply to Parent Post by keres

The standard is ISO 9001:2008.
And this audit is a part of my training. I am not completed my training yet.

Here are threads + posts about the ISO 9001:2008 Stage 1 audit.
This will give you at least an impression of what folks are concerned about.

And here is the actual requirement from ISO 17021 (If you have not seen it yet)

9.2.3.1 Stage 1 audit

9.2.3.1.1 The stage 1 audit shall be performed

a) to audit the client's management system documentation;

b) to evaluate the client's location and site-specific conditions and to undertake discussions with the client's personnel to determine the preparedness for the stage 2 audit;

c) to review the client's status and understanding regarding requirements of the standard, in particular with respect to the identification of key performance or significant aspects, processes, objectives and operation of the management system;

d) to collect necessary information regarding the scope of the management system, processes and location(s) of the client, and related statutory and regulatory aspects and compliance (e.g. quality, environmental, legal aspects of the client's operation, associated risks, etc.);

e) to review the allocation of resources for stage 2 audit and agree with the client on the details of the stage 2 audit;

f) to provide a focus for planning the stage 2 audit by gaining a sufficient understanding of the client's management system and site operations in the context of possible significant aspects;

g) to evaluate if the internal audits and management review are being planned and performed, and that the level of implementation of the management system substantiates that the client is ready for the stage 2 audit.

For most management systems, it is recommended that at least part of the stage 1 audit be carried out at the client's premises in order to achieve the objectives stated above.

9.2.3.1.2 Stage 1 audit findings shall be documented and communicated to the client, including identification of any areas of concern that could be classified as nonconformity during the stage 2 audit.

9.2.3.1.3 In determining the interval between stage 1 and stage 2 audits, consideration shall be given to the needs of the client to resolve areas of concern identified during the stage 1 audit. The certification body may also need to revise its arrangements for stage 2.

Hope this helps.

Stijloor.

[harry]

In one word - Readiness (readiness viewed from the various angles noted in the above post)

[AndyN]

In Reply to Parent Post by keres

Hi!
I am in Lead Auditor training procedure and soon I will be perform my first Stage 1 audit.
Please, give me some advise how I to conduct the audit.

Thank all of you!

Who are you doing this for? (no names necessary). Is this as a Certification Body? If so, don't they have a procedure which tells you how to do a stage 1?