Is the Department of Homeland Security Preparing for Civil War?

[kgott]

http://www.beaconequity.com/we-are-p...#ixzz1tsOzH4tU

This has got to be absolute rubbish does'nt it. Surely the situation in the U.S is not this bad? What do the covers from the U.S think of this?

[Marc]

Ten years ago I would have said impossible. Over the next ten years, I wouldn't take a bet either way.

[Icy Mountain]

In Reply to Parent Post by Declaration of Independence, Paragraph 2

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

They would be completely stupid if they are not preparing for this. I was going to type a little more but I don't want to get on a list.

[Marc]

Reminds me of a lot of posts over at ZeroHedge. Guns and gold. I have plenty of physical gold. Alas, not into guns. If a revolution comes even guns won't be of much value. This is 2012, not 1776. Some people may hold out in the mountains and such, but like so many places in the world which have "rebel" factions, the US would be unlivable. If the US reaches that point I'll be out of the US before all heck breaks loose. I don't believe the US is anywhere near the point of armed rebellion against the US government.

My bet is we'll see "revolutions" in Europe (many places in the middle east are already there, as we all know) before we see them in the US.

[silentrunning]

When you have a president that will only enforce the laws that he wants to, the next logical step is that the populace will only obey the laws that they want to. I truely believe that the last half of 2012 is going to bring more radical changes to our world than we can ever imagine.

[Michael_M]

In Reply to Parent Post by Marc

This is 2012, not 1776. Some people may hold out in the mountains and such, but like so many places in the world which have "rebel" factions, the US would be unlivable.

I would believe the same quote was used in 1776 but slightly altered, something along the lines of "this is 1776, not 1476. The English have better guns and a better navy..."

I am not saying you are wrong Marc, quite the contrary. However fear of losing is not a good excuse for me. I still believe we can turn this ship but I also believe that just as many people still think we can turn this ship too, just in the opposite direction as I.

[Boingo-boingo]

In Reply to Parent Post by silentrunning

I truely believe that the last half of 2012 is going to bring more radical changes to our world than we can ever imagine.

You are watching too much Fox News...

[Marc]

In Reply to Parent Post by silentrunning

When you have a president that will only enforce the laws that he wants to, the next logical step is that the populace will only obey the laws that they want to. I truely believe that the last half of 2012 is going to bring more radical changes to our world than we can ever imagine.

In the US I think it will be more of an issue of the Roberts / Scalia / Thomas US "supreme" court decisions and the corporate takeover of the US (the world is probably more accurate) than of Obama if anything significant happens. Which I doubt.

I think things will get weirder compared to say 10 or 20 years ago, but they're already quite weird.

I pretty much agree with Boing-Boing in that I don't see any immediate threat of any "doomsday" scenario in the near future. As to Faux News (aka info-tainment, scare mongering, and girls with big boobs to draw in the rubes/rednecks), I haven't seen it in quite a few years (still no TV here) so I have no idea what they're doing other than what I read and the clips I see in the internet. If anything it appears to me that Faux is an instigator/agitator within whipping up the rubes into a frenzy of illogical hate.