TS 16949 Clause 4.2.3 - How many Procedures are Required?

[howste]

In Reply to Parent Post by hb2ir

may I note that you can refer all your procedure in your QM, no need to extra paperwork.

Yes you can. However, my experience has been that if you put everything into one thick manual, it's difficult for people to use. If people know they have to search through page after page of the manual to find the information they need, they decide to "wing it" instead. Rather than being useful, it becomes the neglected "big honkin' binder" that Dilbert made fun of.

My preference is to have a small manual referencing smaller, more targeted procedures that are easy to find information in.

Either way is allowed though, and whatever works best for the organization is best.

[bhartigambhir]

As per clause 4.2.1 in ISO/TS16949 standard is as

NOTE 1 Where the term “documented procedure” appears within this International Standard, this means that the procedure is established, documented, implemented and maintained. A single document may address the requirements for one or more procedures. A requirement for a documented procedure may be covered by more than
one document.

[insect warfare]

In Reply to Parent Post by Howard Atkins

As said by
there are seven issues that MUST be referred to in procedures.
The number of procedures can be from 1 to infinity-1
I have added another option to the poll

People naturally tend to equate the procedural clause "requirements" with a document value of 1. The trick is to decide if your organization's requirements can be sufficiently addressed within one documented procedure, or if more than one is needed.

Conversely, the documented procedure requirements from each of these clauses can be condensed into any combination of documented procedures that the organization deems appropriate, so the correct way of thinking is to be able to show that how these requirements are met are documented somewhere.

Brian

[harry]

Poll closed (after more than 1.5 years). Please carry on with discussions.