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12th June 2012, 09:06 AM
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Re: Quality Policy without Top Management Signature
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Requirements Vs Common practice
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Management review records << >> Management review meeting minutes
Control of documents << >> Master copy , Control copy color seals
to cite a few ~~~
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Re: Quality Policy without Top Management Signature
Hi!  I'm a rookie to this and my understanding thru my superiors is that
the Quality Policy can be a stand alone document and requires
the approval of the Top management of the company.
Appreciate your feedback..
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12th June 2012, 11:19 AM
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Re: Quality Policy without Top Management Signature
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Hi!  I'm a rookie to this and my understanding thru my superiors is that
the Quality Policy can be a stand alone document and requires
the approval of the Top management of the company.
Appreciate your feedback.. 
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"Approval" does not necessarily require a physical signature - the mere fact the top officer allows it to be published, posted, or displayed is ample evidence of "approval."
In most organizations, the prominent and frequent display of a top officer's name on buildings, signs, and miscellaneous documents (versus legal ones like contracts and deeds) is more evidence of an ego display than compliance with a Standard. Some regulatory bodies "may" require a physical signature on certain documents as an additional acceptance of liability, but I am not aware of any government regulation requiring a signature on a quality policy.
In short, any auditor who demands a top officer's signature on a quality policy is practicing "mission creep" by substituting his opinion for the Standard. When in doubt, always demand,
"SHOW ME THE SHALL!"
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Re: Quality Policy without Top Management Signature
Dear Somashekar
What is control copy color seal?
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13th June 2012, 02:34 AM
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Dear Somashekar
What is control copy color seal?
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Its your choice really.
I have seen Green for the master copy and Red for the controlled copy.
The thought here is that if these are inadvertently photocopied for any use, the color change in the copy makes it uncontrolled.
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Dear Somashekar
What is control copy color seal?
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Yes, as suggested by somashekhar, thats your call ... the common colors are Green, Blue but not black as the photocopy can not reveal if its an original / photocopy
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Yes, as suggested by somashekhar, thats your call ... the common colors are Green, Blue but not black as the photocopy can not reveal if its an original / photocopy 
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Color scans and prints tend to nullify the idea of copy security using color stamps. I have photo software that allows pixel by pixel manipulation. The higher the resolution of the camera or scanner, the less likelihood of detection except by analysis of the ink (many rubber stamp inks will smear easier than printer ink.)
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Color scans and prints tend to nullify the idea of copy security using color stamps. I have photo software that allows pixel by pixel manipulation. The higher the resolution of the camera or scanner, the less likelihood of detection except by analysis of the ink (many rubber stamp inks will smear easier than printer ink.)
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