ISO/TS 16949 Second Edition - The Latest Scoop!

[db]

I ordered through IOS (ISO) on Thursday. I received the electronic copy and it states ISO/TS 16949:2002. It is the real version!

[Marc]

See http://Elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=28392

ISO PRESS RELEASE

New version of ISO 9000 requirements for automotive industry rolls out

A successful partnership between ISO and the international automotive industry has resulted in the publication of a new edition of ISO/TS 16949, which specifies quality system requirements for suppliers in this sector.

It is expected that the technical specification (TS) will become the common and unique basis for the automotive industry's quality management system requirements worldwide, gradually replacing the multiple national specifications now used by the sector (e.g. QS 9000, AVSQ, VDA6.1 and EAQF). ISO/TS 16949 therefore has a substantial potential market comprising more than 30 000 companies currently certified (registered) against one or other of the national specifications.

ISO/TS 16949:2002, Quality management systems - Particular requirements for the application of ISO 9001:2000 for automotive production and relevant service part organizations, costs 116 Swiss francs and is available from ISO national member institutes (see complete list http://www.iso.org/iso/en/aboutiso/i...ers/index.html with contact details), and from ISO Central Secretariat ( sales@iso.org ). ISO will also publish a French language version.

MORE: http://www.iso.org/iso/en/commcentre...02/Ref818.html

[a_saracoglu]

Could we still use the same checklist for the 2002 version?

[db]

Without knowing what checklist you are referring to, I can't give you a good answer. If you are talking about 16949 that was based on ISO 9001:1994, I would doubt it, unless you were willing to make some dramatic modifications based on the new version. Any other checklist will not contain the same requirements.

Remember there is no “shall” that requires any specific checklist. Although a note at the end of 8.2.2.4 states: “Specific checklists should be used for each audit.” The word used is “should”, not “shall”.

[Roger Eastin]

From my review of the 2002 version, I think you could use the 1994 checklist and get about 80% of the 2002 requirements. However, having said that, missing the other 20% could hurt you. It depends on what part of the standard you talking about. At any rate, you are taking a risk using the old checklist. Usually, someone from this forum has or will develop something soon, if ISO doesn't come out with something themselves. Do you need it now?

[db]

This is just my personal guess at what the AIAG will do. When they release their version of 16949 this (next?) month, I think they will either at the same time, or shortly thereafter publish their version of the QSA for 16949. Just a guess.

[a_saracoglu]

well I have ISO/TS 169494:99 checklist

Cause of this question is, at the ISO/TS 169494:99 certification audit, the auditor told us that we should use this checklist.

[db]

That would be the appropriate checklist for the older version of ISO/TS19494. When you update/upgrade to the 2002 version, you will have to update the checklist as well. As I said before, without major modification, the older checklist is mostly incompatible with the new standard. Having said that, you will still need to use your current version of the checklist until you update/upgrade.