ISO 9001:2008 - Can any one help me to understand this paragraph? Clause 8.3

Quality and/or Production are authorized to make the “Accept as-is” and “Re-grade” disposition decisions, and the “Rework” and “Repair” decisions when there are currently no approved rework instructions, and which must first be established before the rework processes can be implemented.

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Is this reported as is from an internal procedure?
I hope to have intended the sens.
It refers to clause 8.3 of ISO 9001 for the control of non conforming products.
I think there have been established responsibilitues to take decisions on how to treat this material, also authorizing the rework and repair.
This must state in a documented procedure to deal with this kind of material, including related responsibilities and criteria to manage the process.
If you should refer to ISO TS , there are additional clauses, for example see 8.3.2 where you shall have evidence of the instruction, including the re-inspection requirements.
Hope this helps

tech4arab said:

Quality and/or Production are authorized to make the “Accept as-is” and “Re-grade” disposition decisions, and the “Rework” and “Repair” decisions when there are currently no approved rework instructions, and which must first be established before the rework processes can be implemented.

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tech4arab said:

Quality and/or Production are authorized to make the “Accept as-is” and “Re-grade” disposition decisions, and the “Rework” and “Repair” decisions when there are currently no approved rework instructions, and which must first be established before the rework processes can be implemented.

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Please clarify which standard you are referring to.

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i have miss understand in these words

tech4arab said:

Quality and/or Production are authorized to make the “Accept as-is” and “Re-grade” disposition decisions, and the “Rework” and “Repair” decisions when there are currently no approved rework instructions, and which must first be established before the rework processes can be implemented.

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how Quality and production will make the rework and repair and there is no approved rework instructions


i think repair and rework must be deleted

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tech4arab said:

Quality and/or Production are authorized to make the “Accept as-is” and “Re-grade” disposition decisions, and the “Rework” and “Repair” decisions when there are currently no approved rework instructions, and which must first be established before the rework processes can be implemented.

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Where did this come from, and what is it that you don't understand? It looks to me as though there are four classifications for disposition of NC material:

1. Accept as-is
2. Regrade
3. Rework
4. Repair

The thing is saying that Quality and/or Production have/has the authority to make the first two dispositions in all cases. If there are no existing rework/repair instructions, they also have authority to make dispositions #3 and #4 but only after instructions have been established. They don't have that authority when there are existing rework/repair instructions. Presumably, in those cases, the instructions are explicit about what is supposed to happen.

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Our standard ISO 9001:2008

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Jim Wynne said:

The thing is saying that Quality and/or Production have/has the authority to make the first two dispositions in all cases. If there are no existing rework/repair instructions, they also have authority to make dispositions #3 and #4 but only after instructions have been established. They don't have that authority when there are existing rework/repair instructions. Presumably, in those cases, the instructions are explicit about what is supposed to happen.

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i think this is the right , and it is being that the source is writted in miss

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tech4arab said:

i think this is the right , and it is being that the source is writted in miss

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If you're saying that you agree with my interpretation, then the source isn't worded incorrectly. Again, what is it that you don't understand about it?

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Jim Wynne said:

If you're saying that you agree with my interpretation, then the source isn't worded incorrectly. Again, what is it that you don't understand about it?

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where i see it will make a repair and rework where no instruction is available , and then he assure that instruction must be implemented

so i miss understand and i say may be this paragraph is write and i didn't understand it

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what is see here is that both quality and production are authorized to have a discretion in case that there is no instructions on what to do.