Approving Suppliers by "Grandfathering"

[Jim Wynne]

In Reply to Parent Post by ricerocket

We have had our ISO 9001 for a few years now and are getting recertified. From my understanding, we should already be adhering to the ISO standards during the recertification.

What happened during the original certification audit? Once again: ISO 9001 requirements are not retroactive. If your grandfathered suppliers were grandfathered at the time of your original certification, they are still grandfathered.

[silentrunning]

7.4.1 not only calls for evaluation, but re-evaluation of suppliers. Even if you could grandfather in established suppliers, at some point they should be re-evaluated to be sure they are maintaining their quality.

[Jim Wynne]

In Reply to Parent Post by silentrunning

7.4.1 not only calls for evaluation, but re-evaluation of suppliers. Even if you could grandfather in established suppliers, at some point they should be re-evaluated to be sure they are maintaining their quality.

The grandfathering applies to original selection criteria, not ongoing evaluation.

[db]

In Reply to Parent Post by silentrunning

7.4.1 not only calls for evaluation, but re-evaluation of suppliers. Even if you could grandfather in established suppliers, at some point they should be re-evaluated to be sure they are maintaining their quality.

I would think that you evaluate your suppliers each time you order from them. Did they provide right?

• right material/service
• right quantity
• right quality
• right timing
• price
• right location
• and any other requirement

[ricerocket]

In Reply to Parent Post by db

I would think that you evaluate your suppliers each time you order from them. Did they provide right?

• right material/service
• right quantity
• right quality
• right timing
• price
• right location
• and any other requirement

We match our PO to our invoices for price and quantity. We have a shipping log that records expected and actual delivery times. We have a supervisor sign off any products received as inspected.

[silentrunning]

In Reply to Parent Post by Jim Wynne

The grandfathering applies to original selection criteria, not ongoing evaluation.

I thought my sentence structure made it pretty clear that I realized that. I was saying that even if he were to grandfather in a supplier, he is only postponing having to do an evaluation. Is that more clear?

[Jim Wynne]

In Reply to Parent Post by silentrunning

I thought my sentence structure made it pretty clear that I realized that. I was saying that even if he were to grandfather in a supplier, he is only postponing having to do an evaluation. Is that more clear?

The initial qualification for a supplier might be substantially different from ongoing evaluation.