Re: CAR form sans Cause analysis?
I came accross the audit ( i was working under lead auditor) in which the organization has CAR form without the cause analysis.
is it the Non conformity or i note that in observations?
To my opinion it is an NC but for the lead auditor it is an observation.
IMO you can have a CAR form without the cause analysis but a cause analysis must be done.
8.5.2 requires a doucmented procedure to define requirements and 8.5.2.b states "determining the causes of nonconformities". 8.5.2.e requires records of results of actions taken.
From this I would expect to see a record for determining the cause of nonconformity but it doesnt need to be a part of the CAR form.
If there is no record at all for cause analysis then it is a straigh NC IMO.
If there are records, even if they are emails or on the back of a fag packet, then there is no NC.
If records for cause analysis are intermittent then I would probably raise an observation.