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NickyD
Hello all,
I am looking for some insight on how engineering changes should be structured (I am in the medical device arena, so keep that in mind).
I have searched on here and found several other threads on the ECR process, along with some example forms and such. Nothing too in depth and nothing that really seems to fit the mold of what I think may be the approach the FDA is seeking these days....
Anyway, it is evident that we are doing our process backwards, using ECOs for BOM changes only, DCOs for document changes only -- which is fine. But when it comes to everything else, drawing changes, product changes, etc., we are using an ECR form that is filled out to post-changes and used like a notification that a change was made. Essentially, it is missing all of the step leading up to the change and the change is made without input upfront.
After looking into this some more, I came to the conclusion that many most med device companies all use a different logic and approach when it comes to engineering changes.
It appears that the approach most are using is incorporating the ECR, ECO, and ECN acronyms in the following way:
1) ECR to document the origination of the request, suggested ways to address or fix the problem, what items would have to change to fix it, and signoffs to say the suggestions are approved and to move forward with the ECO process.
2) ECO to document the items that may need to change as a result of the ECR (drawings, technical specs, SOPs, etc). Implementation of these changes and approvals. Note: Not all ECOs are required to originate from an ECR and the ECO processes may be an independent processes, such as the DCO process for SOPs and such.
3) ECN to notify the appropriate or interested parties when the ECO change(s) are complete. (could be rolled into the backend of the ECO form I suppose)
Note: We do not have an automated way of doing the changes, no electronic signoffs. The form would have to be filled out and routed and signed physically.
Is the approach of using ECR, ECO, and ECN common?
I have seen others only using ECR and ECN or just ECO and ECN.
Any help would be appreciated!
I am looking for some insight on how engineering changes should be structured (I am in the medical device arena, so keep that in mind).
I have searched on here and found several other threads on the ECR process, along with some example forms and such. Nothing too in depth and nothing that really seems to fit the mold of what I think may be the approach the FDA is seeking these days....
Anyway, it is evident that we are doing our process backwards, using ECOs for BOM changes only, DCOs for document changes only -- which is fine. But when it comes to everything else, drawing changes, product changes, etc., we are using an ECR form that is filled out to post-changes and used like a notification that a change was made. Essentially, it is missing all of the step leading up to the change and the change is made without input upfront.
After looking into this some more, I came to the conclusion that many most med device companies all use a different logic and approach when it comes to engineering changes.
It appears that the approach most are using is incorporating the ECR, ECO, and ECN acronyms in the following way:
1) ECR to document the origination of the request, suggested ways to address or fix the problem, what items would have to change to fix it, and signoffs to say the suggestions are approved and to move forward with the ECO process.
2) ECO to document the items that may need to change as a result of the ECR (drawings, technical specs, SOPs, etc). Implementation of these changes and approvals. Note: Not all ECOs are required to originate from an ECR and the ECO processes may be an independent processes, such as the DCO process for SOPs and such.
3) ECN to notify the appropriate or interested parties when the ECO change(s) are complete. (could be rolled into the backend of the ECO form I suppose)
Note: We do not have an automated way of doing the changes, no electronic signoffs. The form would have to be filled out and routed and signed physically.
Is the approach of using ECR, ECO, and ECN common?
I have seen others only using ECR and ECN or just ECO and ECN.
Any help would be appreciated!