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I´m coming here again with this issue, differents doubts came out, please help me to clarify this point.
According to NC management, ISO :9001:2008
According to the clause:
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8.3 Control of nonconforming product
(Company Name) ensures that product which does not conform to product requirements is identified and controlled to prevent its unintended use or delivery. A documented procedure is established to define the controls and related responsibilities and authorities for dealing with nonconforming products. Where applicable (Company Name) deals with nonconforming product by one or more of the following ways:
a) by taking action to eliminate the detected nonconformity,
b) by authorizing its use, release or acceptance under concession by a relevant authority and, where applicable, by the customer, and
c) by taking action to preclude its original intended use or application.
d) by taking action appropriate to the effects, or potential effects, of the nonconformity when nonconforming product is detected after delivery or use has started.
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My comment is I can comply with points a,b,c,d without mentioning Repair, Rework, Reject, etc.
I can describe it in differents words in my procedure.
Why is so common to use on the NCR forms, checkmarks to categorize them?
Sometimes I think the frontier between Use as is, Repair and reworks is not so clear and may be confusing or difficult to choose one and also may fail in the selection, thus
providing wrong information for audits, statistics.
Is it really useful to use the categories, and why ?
For example Now I showed my procedure explaining the categories to my fellows, and a lot of questions arose.
E.g.
1- In use as is , How much should be spent in time,money efforts to verify a product?
2- In Repair, At what extent should I fix my product to put it
to work again?
3 . In rework, Ok is to remanufacture in order to have the product ready complying with original specifications, but if I spend
little effort, may be a Repair?
and other questions....
Hope I explained well my doubts.
Thanks to all
I´m coming here again with this issue, differents doubts came out, please help me to clarify this point.
According to NC management, ISO :9001:2008
According to the clause:
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
8.3 Control of nonconforming product
(Company Name) ensures that product which does not conform to product requirements is identified and controlled to prevent its unintended use or delivery. A documented procedure is established to define the controls and related responsibilities and authorities for dealing with nonconforming products. Where applicable (Company Name) deals with nonconforming product by one or more of the following ways:
a) by taking action to eliminate the detected nonconformity,
b) by authorizing its use, release or acceptance under concession by a relevant authority and, where applicable, by the customer, and
c) by taking action to preclude its original intended use or application.
d) by taking action appropriate to the effects, or potential effects, of the nonconformity when nonconforming product is detected after delivery or use has started.
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
My comment is I can comply with points a,b,c,d without mentioning Repair, Rework, Reject, etc.
I can describe it in differents words in my procedure.
Why is so common to use on the NCR forms, checkmarks to categorize them?
Sometimes I think the frontier between Use as is, Repair and reworks is not so clear and may be confusing or difficult to choose one and also may fail in the selection, thus
providing wrong information for audits, statistics.
Is it really useful to use the categories, and why ?
For example Now I showed my procedure explaining the categories to my fellows, and a lot of questions arose.
E.g.
1- In use as is , How much should be spent in time,money efforts to verify a product?
2- In Repair, At what extent should I fix my product to put it
to work again?
3 . In rework, Ok is to remanufacture in order to have the product ready complying with original specifications, but if I spend
little effort, may be a Repair?
and other questions....
Hope I explained well my doubts.
Thanks to all