Part 145 Repair Station Rating and Capability List vs. ISO 9001 certificate Scope

[Al Rosen]

Let me guess. Cari's organization does not hold any certificates. It sells to the approval holder who is responsible for airworthiness and holds the proper certs.

[Cari Spears]

In Reply to Parent Post by Al Rosen

Let me guess. Cari's organization does not hold any certificates. It sells to the approval holder who is responsible for airworthiness and holds the proper certs.

Exactly. (not yet anyway ) Our customer is responsible for ensuring that our work is done to their quality standards / regulatory requirements. Our work is certified as part of their receiving inspection procedures.

[Blue Tuna]

Cari, sorry for the confusion, I had gone back to the top of the thread and was responding to "repair of ball screw" and I was trying to make the point, it is much easier to write to AS9100 with manufacturing and design excluded and going maintenance only. That was the only point I was trying to make.

[Cari Spears]

In Reply to Parent Post by Blue Tuna

I had gone back to the top of the thread and was responding to "repair of ball screw" and I was trying to make the point, it is much easier to write to AS9100 with manufacturing and design excluded and going maintenance only. That was the only point I was trying to make.

We don't want to exclude manufacturing for AS9100 - we make new parts. At the top of the thread when I said "repair of ball screw" that was in reference to our Part 145 certification. We are doing both. AS9100 registration will not satisfy the Repair Stations and Airlines - they want Part 145 certification.

[Al Rosen]

In Reply to Parent Post by Cari Spears

Exactly. (not yet anyway ) Our customer is responsible for ensuring that our work is done to their quality standards / regulatory requirements. Our work is certified as part of their receiving inspection procedures.

When you get your FAR 145 Cert, where will you get the your parts to do the R&O (Repairs and Overhaul)? You do know that you must used Approved parts and since you do not hold the approvals, you will need to "purchase" the parts or assemblies from youir customer since they hold the airworthiness approvals.

[Don Palmer]

In Reply to Parent Post by Cari Spears

We can and are. The customer determines airworthiness and they exercise control over their suppliers. We also make aftermarket / replacement ballscrew components for aerospace customers.

We are being considered as a subcontractor for a Part 145 certificated Repair Station right now. They can subcontract work to a non-certificated repair station, but we have to agree to let their FAA inspector come in and they have to ultimately determine airworthiness.

There may come a time when we are registered to both AS9100 and AS9110 and also certificated to Part 145 and Part 21. Whatever the customers want - most of the FAA requirements are paralleled in the AS standards anyway.

Since you manufacture and repair & overhaul [as I understand - within the same facility] has the subject of clearly defined separation of facilities come into play?

[Cari Spears]

Al - if, in repairing or maintaining a ballscrew, we need to replace some component - like a retaining tang, wiper, ball bearings, flop over, etc., the customer will either supply those items or direct us to an approved source so we can purchase them.

Muleskinner - we do not need to separate our facility.

[Al Rosen]

In Reply to Parent Post by Cari Spears

Muleskinner - we do not need to separate our facility.

That's surprising, we had to maintain a dedicated area for R&O activities. Our Repair Station Manual identified it, in detail, within our facility and any changes required notification to the FAA. They inspected and verified the changes. Of course, the regs may have changed in the past 5 years since I was involved with it?