Part 145 Repair Station - Accountable Manager

[Cari Spears]

I want to make sure I understand the role of the Accountable Manager. In my own mind (which is a scary place) I've equated this person with a Management Rep for ISO/AS. Who is the accountable manager at your Repair Station?

[Al Rosen]

Originally Posted by Cari Spears

I want to make sure I understand the role of the Accountable Manager. In my own mind (which is a scary place) I've equated this person with a Management Rep for ISO/AS. Who is the accountable manager at your Repair Station?

I've attached our Org. Chart - I will add the names IAW 145.51(4) and 145.151(a). What do you think?

TIA!

You're right! I think you can reference your Roster for the names. That way you won't have to revise both when there are personnel changes.

[Sidney Vianna]

I am no expert in FAR 145, but from the AS9110 Standard, paragraph
5.5.1.1 Accountable Executive Manager: Top management shall appoint a manager with corporate authority to ensure that all ordered maintenance can be financed, the necessary resources obtained, and all ordered maintenance completed in accordance with all organization, customer, and Authority requirements.
it seems to me that the role of this individual is larger than the typical "management representative" in ISO 9001.

[Al Rosen]

Originally Posted by Sidney Vianna

I am no expert in FAR 145, but from the AS9110 Standard, paragraph
5.5.1.1 Accountable Executive Manager: Top management shall appoint a manager with corporate authority to ensure that all ordered maintenance can be financed, the necessary resources obtained, and all ordered maintenance completed in accordance with all organization, customer, and Authority requirements.
it seems to me that the role of this individual is larger than the typical "management representative" in ISO 9001.

That's not the same responsibilities as the "Accountable Manager" according to FAR 145. Notice that the operative word Executive is missing. See page 15 of AC145-9.

[Cari Spears]

Thank you both. No one around here would call me an "executive" - but here at our 60 employee company - I would still qualify for the description from AS9110.

Thanks!!

[Al Rosen]

Originally Posted by Cari Spears

Thank you both. No one around here would call me an "executive" - but here at our 60 employee company - I would still qualify for the description from AS9110.

Thanks!!

Cari, also note that the AC org chart has the Accountable Manager reporting to the TOP DOG. Your Org Chart does not. How will that sit with your PI?

[Cari Spears]

Originally Posted by Al Rosen

I think you can reference your Roster for the names.

That would be nice - I didn't read it that way.

145.51(4) An organizational chart of the repair station and the names and titles of managing and supervisory personnel;

Then there's 145.161(1) A roster of management and supervisory personnel that includes the names of the repair station officials who are responsible for its management and the names of its supervisors who oversee maintenance functions.

I really don't like having names in the org chart (I want to use the same one in both our Quality Policy Manual and our Repair Station Manual) and it does seem redundant to have the exact same info on an org chart AND a roster.

[Al Rosen]

Originally Posted by Cari Spears

That would be nice - I didn't read it that way.

145.51(4) An organizational chart of the repair station and the names and titles of managing and supervisory personnel;

Then there's 145.161(1) A roster of management and supervisory personnel that includes the names of the repair station officials who are responsible for its management and the names of its supervisors who oversee maintenance functions.

I really don't like having names in the org chart (I want to use the same one in both our Quality Policy Manual and our Repair Station Manual) and it does seem redundant to have the exact same info on an org chart AND a roster.

I recall the AC specifically stating not to put names on the ORG Chart. You should go over it with a fine tooth comb. It is easy to miss this kind of crap.