The Elsmar Cove Wiki More Free Files The Elsmar Cove Forums Discussion Thread Index Post Attachments Listing Failure Modes Services and Solutions to Problems Elsmar cove Forums Main Page Elsmar Cove Home Page

Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Archived - Students and Educational Institutions > Archive - City University - MC 550 Operational Management

Elsmar Cove Forum Visitor Notice(s)

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Content Display Modes
  #1  
Old 27th February 2005, 04:56 PM
Steve Prevette's Avatar
Steve Prevette Steve Prevette is offline
Deming Disciple

Registration Date: Feb 2004
Location: Aiken, SC
 
Posts: 1,996
Thanks Given to Others: 140
Thanked 1,053 Times in 558 Posts
Karma Power: 259
Karma: 11184
Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Week 9 Student Discussion - Lean and JIT

“Lean” and “Just in Time” are definitely current concerns of American corporations. What is meant by these two terms, and what advantages do they propose to bring to a corporation? What is meant by “push” versus “pull” with relation to JIT?
__________________
Steve Prevette
"A Passionate Statistician", ASQ CQE, ASQ Fellow
  #2  
Old 7th March 2005, 10:49 AM
mark child mark child is offline
Inactive Registered Visitor

Registration Date: Oct 2004
Location: U.S.
 
Posts: 8
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Karma Power: 35
Karma: 10
mark child has less than 100 Karma points so far.
By using Aggregate planning and paying attention to details several businesses, e.g. Wal-mart, have been able to maximaize just-in-time and lean production. They stay lean by keeping inventory to a bare minimum and focusing on what the customer wants and when they want it. If they make an order and merchandise does not arrive on time they have identified a problem and use the just in time philosophy, (an ongoing problem solving process), to make the necessary corrections.
Wal-mart has used the pull system by having materials produced only when they need them. This is totally the opposite from the push method where suppliers would be pushing materials on Wal-mart regardless if they needed them or not, thereby driving up inventory costs and creating situations where they have things they don't need. We have seen this with K-mart.
The advantages are obvious in the case of wal-mart. They have capitalized on these processes to get ahead of the competition and now use their overwhelming size squeeze them out of business.
  #3  
Old 8th March 2005, 11:19 PM
Jamie Morris Jamie Morris is offline
Inactive Registered Visitor

Registration Date: Jan 2005
Location: USA/Washington/Eastern
Age: 55
 
Posts: 20
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Karma Power: 36
Karma: 46
Jamie Morris has less than 100 Karma points so far.
Sipoc

Quote:
In Reply to Parent Post by Steve Prevette

“Lean” and “Just in Time” are definitely current concerns of American corporations. What is meant by these two terms, and what advantages do they propose to bring to a corporation? What is meant by “push” versus “pull” with relation to JIT?
The basic supply chain model consists of suppliers, input, process and/or transformation, output, and customer (SIPOC). Just in time can be applied to each step in this supply chain model. Using a just in time approach, supplies and components are pulled through the system and arrive at each point in the supply chain where they are needed and when they are needed. From a supplier standpoint, this requires and implies supplier integration into the production supply chain. From a customer standpoint, the implication of just in time and lean is that the customers receive exactly the product that they want and when they want it, without waste. Just in time management also can be applied to the inputs (materials, components that feed the process), the process itself (just in time labor and materials when they are needed), the outputs (work-in-progress and inventories). The advantages of just in time and a pull process are; attacks anything that does not add value to the process (waste), exposes problems and bottlenecks in the process caused by variability, identifies deviations from the optimum utilization and capacity, streamlines production, and reduces inventory levels. Application of lean production methodology is just a variation of just in time. The same ideas apply with slightly different twists. The key differences are more focus on developing systems that help the employees produce a perfect product every time and developing close and lasting relationships with suppliers. Just in time and lean production reinforce that continual analysis and improvement must be implemented throughout each step of the SIPOC model.

The push system forces material downstream through the system to next workstations regardless of whether the materials are needed or wanted. Steve used a very good example in class of a push system. The image of Lucy working in the candy factory with the candy bars continuing to pile up on the assembly line while Lucy struggles with the packaging process. "Lucy you got some 'splaining to do".
  #4  
Old 9th March 2005, 01:39 AM
ssagreen
Unregistered Guest

 
Posts: n/a
From the research that I did on Dell and what we saw in the book they are a good example of a pull system. They do not start the assembly process for your computer until after you make your customized order. I believe three times a day they tell their suppliers what parts they need and pull in their supplies off of demand. That is how I see the pull system working. It is built off of the real demand and the push system is built off of the forcasted demand or the capabilities of the plant. The pull system can eliminate the waste or shortage when the forecast does not match the real demand.
  #5  
Old 9th March 2005, 11:00 AM
Mary Davenport Mary Davenport is offline
Inactive Registered Visitor

Registration Date: Jan 2005
Location: Richland, Washington, USA
 
Posts: 16
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Karma Power: 35
Karma: 10
Mary Davenport has less than 100 Karma points so far.
Quote:
In Reply to Parent Post by mark child

By using Aggregate planning and paying attention to details several businesses, e.g. Wal-mart, have been able to maximaize just-in-time and lean production. They stay lean by keeping inventory to a bare minimum and focusing on what the customer wants and when they want it.
This points out how/why K-mart lost business in our area. As one of their former merchandising managers I was perplexed every time special merchandise and promotional goods were pushed on to the stores without regard to what would sell in each area. Wal-mart's system is very effective (at least from a merchandising perspective), if you go to their stores across the country you will see some similarities, but you will also see some very obvious local and regional differences. The merchandise mix in Kennewick is different from that across the highway in West Richland and extemely different from that in Amarillo, TX.
  #6  
Old 9th March 2005, 11:02 AM
Steve Prevette's Avatar
Steve Prevette Steve Prevette is offline
Deming Disciple

Registration Date: Feb 2004
Location: Aiken, SC
 
Posts: 1,996
Thanks Given to Others: 140
Thanked 1,053 Times in 558 Posts
Karma Power: 259
Karma: 11184
Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Steve Prevette is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Quote:
In Reply to Parent Post by Mary Davenport

The merchandise mix in Kennewick is different from that across the highway in West Richland and extemely different from that in Amarillo, TX.
In China, Wal-Mart sells live chickens and several other local food items that you won't see in a Wal-Mart in the USA.
__________________
Steve Prevette
"A Passionate Statistician", ASQ CQE, ASQ Fellow
  #7  
Old 9th March 2005, 02:45 PM
Mary Davenport Mary Davenport is offline
Inactive Registered Visitor

Registration Date: Jan 2005
Location: Richland, Washington, USA
 
Posts: 16
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Karma Power: 35
Karma: 10
Mary Davenport has less than 100 Karma points so far.
Quote:
In Reply to Parent Post by Steve Prevette

In China, Wal-Mart sells live chickens and several other local food items that you won't see in a Wal-Mart in the USA.
And we in the US are grateful for that too!!!
  #8  
Old 9th March 2005, 03:03 PM
Wes Bucey's Avatar
Wes Bucey Wes Bucey is offline
Quality Manager

Registration Date: Sep 2003
Location: Illinois
 
Posts: 10,427
Thanks Given to Others: 451
Thanked 2,615 Times in 1,706 Posts
Karma Power: 1121
Karma: 19535
Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Quote:
In Reply to Parent Post by ssagreen

From the research that I did on Dell and what we saw in the book they are a good example of a pull system. They do not start the assembly process for your computer until after you make your customized order. I believe three times a day they tell their suppliers what parts they need and pull in their supplies off of demand. That is how I see the pull system working. It is built off of the real demand and the push system is built off of the forcasted demand or the capabilities of the plant. The pull system can eliminate the waste or shortage when the forecast does not match the real demand.
It is important to realize that there is some point in the supply chain where "Pull" doesn't work in a real world.

Some of you students work in an agricultural mileu. If you grow grain, you have to "predict" how much grain you'll sell to plan amount of seed to sow. A Granary has to plan how many storehouses to build to accommodate projected need for storage of grain. Mills have to plan how much grain to buy to make flour. Bakers have to plan how much flour to order to make bread to put on the shelf for the retail customer to come in and "demand" a loaf of bread. The only one in the entire chain who can be a "pull" buyer based on demand (his stomach growls) is the retail buyer.

Similar disconnects in the supply chain abound in every industry.

Cars? - mines for ore, steel mills for ingots or billets, rolling mills and foundries for sheet metal and engine blocks, manufacturers to have showroom samples in dealerships, all so consumer can walk in and "demand" one off the lot or wait a long lead time for one to be built.

Computers? Consumer and Dell may pull, but chip makers, motherboards, cases, wires, solder, manufacturing plants, etc. ALL have to plan and purchase ahead based on estimate of future demand. All those folks Dell orders from have merely had the burden of holding inventory transferred to them from Dell. There is still pre-made inventory sitting on someone's shelf waiting to ship to Dell for final assembly.
__________________
"Few minds wear out; more rust out"
Inscribed over the entrance of Louis Pasteur School, Chicago
Christian Nestell Bovee (1820-1904) in Thoughts, Feelings and Fancies, 1857
 

Lower Navigation Bar
Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Archived - Students and Educational Institutions > Archive - City University - MC 550 Operational Management

Bookmarks


Visitors Currently Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 Registered Visitors (Members) and 1 Unregistered Guest Visitors)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Forum Search
Display Modes Rate Thread Content
Rate Thread Content:

Forum Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Discussion Threads
Discussion Thread Title Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post or Poll Vote
Closed or Resolved: New Topic every week for discussion blue moon Forum Suggestions, Complaints, Problems and Bug Reports 4 17th October 2009 10:45 PM
Week 8 Student Discussion - Systems Thinking Steve Prevette Archive - City University - MC 550 Operational Management 6 10th March 2005 12:00 PM
Week 5 Student Discussion - Work Standards Steve Prevette Archive - City University - MC 550 Operational Management 8 10th March 2005 10:31 AM
Week 4 Student Discussion - Process Analysis Steve Prevette Archive - City University - MC 550 Operational Management 4 10th March 2005 10:18 AM
Week 3 Student Discussion - Design Steve Prevette Archive - City University - MC 550 Operational Management 9 31st January 2005 09:00 PM



The time now is 05:38 AM. All times are GMT -4.
Your time zone can be changed in your UserCP --> Options.